Hi thanks for your replies.

understood so it is really not worth the risk. Would love to know what happened to you (Benalibina) did you make that mistake and take the kid back?

Still all very sad that a little boy cannot see his mum or her family for many years. However nutty she was she is still his mother and they his family...all very sad but the best for him is UK no question

thanks again

I not 'love' to tell you why i have lost out, for now at least. It is however not only me but my children as well. In my opinion at least.

Trusted in descency, holy grail of our family.

Result; no descency and my wifes holy grail is her family.

Conclusion; i was ignorant and most of all UNPREPARED !!!!!!!!!