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Surely you would have to have police on the beat first for that to work, or at least outside of the police station.

Ha ha ,,,nice ....

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Bangkok Police are on the streets regularly ...... end of the month collection 'tea money' .... like clockwork.

myth...or if in the west they call them 'fines.'

kinda like the oil companies, sometimes its cheaper to pay the fines when youre generating enough profit to cover it.

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"Policing" of any "style" involves enforcing laws. This is a foreign concept here.

Short, concise, and right on point! Thailand is a country with 10,000 laws, very few are ever enforced. Why should drivers actually stop for red lights at pedestrian crossings? Stop burning trash and everything else they want to when people are breathing smoke in Chiang Rai? Police never enforce even the most simple and basic laws. That is unless some rich pu-yai pays them to do it against their business competition or political enemy. Or the police themselves are shareholders in a business enterprise themselves and need to squelch the competition.

Do you really want dictatorship like enforcement of laws?

Trust me it sucks, you cannot do shit.

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The drop in crime in NYC was attributable in large part to a shift in demographics. The population aged and when the number of young males drops, crime rates decrease. Petty crime is the domain of males 15-25. In addition, NYC enacted strff measures to deal with the homeless and beggers, basically pushing them out of Manhatten. These people are now another region's problem. Unfortunately, the BMA is still the magnet that attracts the young male demographic and beggers. The willingness of the NYC PD to charge people for petty crimes was accompanied by the municipal court system's willingness to get tough. I don't think the court system in the BMA could handle the influx of cases. It has neither the staff nor IMO, the integrity to respond appropriately. Why would a cop bother with petty crime if he knows the courts don't care?

As some of the most crime plagued parts of NYC gentrified with an influx of people willing to fix up neighbourhoods, the criminal element was pushed out. One of the biggest impact on crime was the city's response to vandalism and graffiti. As soon as it appeared on subway cars and walls,, it was removed. This had an impact on perceptions. There is no gentrification combined with community presence in Bangkok's residential developments. They are self contained walled compounds.

I suggest that one of the factors in recent years was Mayor Bloomberg's crackdown on handguns. I doubt the BMA has the resolve to take illegal firearms off the street. The NY municipal and state government has a zero tolerance for corruption. Yes there is still corruption, but it is contained and dealt with. Does anyone seriously believe that corruption can be dealt with in the BMA? One would probablyy have to terminate 90% of policeand court officials.

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And of course the newspaper would have "police reporters" just like New York, reporting on crime and seriously following up. All the girls working around Thailand and the petty thieves and con men the hangers on and pimps for the girls would be rounded up. Mr. Bigs would be hunted down by detectives and Thailand Federal attorneys general. Politicians and Thai securities workers would be hauled off in handcuffs and perp walked. CID investigators would be tracking their police colleagues and filing charges. Guilty police would be jailed and denied pensions.

We can be sure that Thailand intends to follow through and evolve the police into this New York state of mind. Thais know a good thing when they see it. Law and order New York style. Motor violations are all prosecuted regardless of class of citizen and or how many nas they have. Appearance will have to be made in court. Fines paid. Jail time for drunk driving. Hit and Runs have long sentences and tracked down like dogs. Pedestrians have the right of way and it is seriously enforced. Traffic flow is studied seriously and lights are timed to managed the flow of traffic. More than one in a car in assigned traffic lanes is enforced and monitored by surveillance cameras that are not just "paste on imitations."

If Thailand can do it like New York that would be a miracle, but for sure this merely a dream for Thailand and Thais. The powers to be don't really want it that way. The rich don't walk in Thailand so there should be no "pedestrians have the right of way." Hit and run is tolerated because it gives the a chance to line up payoffs and bribes in the food chain.

Talking about policing New York style - has anyone heard any update news on the Red Bull heir's hit and run killing of the cop in the Ferrari while under the influence of alcohol and drugs and reported in the news? The police case of obstruction of justice, manipulate the facts, bribery, and coverup is still open as well. Does the newspaper intend to follow up on this New York style?

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The police in Western countries work nights as police officers, from my experience the majority of police in Thailand work nights as pimps, debt collectors and running protection rackets.

You dont think cops in the west do these things and strictly confined to thailand? I once saw a cop screwing a hooker in an alley in Houston.

Or how about the cop in Hawaii that was transporting crystal meth in his trunk?

I juse to throw rave parties back in the US and as long as there was a off duty cop on premises it wouldnt get shut down.

Do you know the difference between "rule" and "exception" ?

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"Policing" of any "style" involves enforcing laws. This is a foreign concept here.

Short, concise, and right on point! Thailand is a country with 10,000 laws, very few are ever enforced. Why should drivers actually stop for red lights at pedestrian crossings? Stop burning trash and everything else they want to when people are breathing smoke in Chiang Rai? Police never enforce even the most simple and basic laws. That is unless some rich pu-yai pays them to do it against their business competition or political enemy. Or the police themselves are shareholders in a business enterprise themselves and need to squelch the competition.

Do you really want dictatorship like enforcement of laws?

Trust me it sucks, you cannot do shit.

What, like illegal shit? It is one thing to complain about badly or overly obtrusive laws, it is another to moan about ineffective and selective enforcement of laws.

What we have here is not a lack of laws, but a complete lack of enforcement. If you don't like laws, elect someone to change them, if you don't have enforcement, what are you supposed to do? Get another police force?

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