Vasectomy

[eyecatcher]

sounds like a great experience and then the other guy whose doc at Lanna hospital cut the wrong vein. no thanks. don't understand why anybody would do this.

We get it done for many reasons; not wanting our wives or girlfriends to have to take a drug that is known to increase the chances of their developing Cancer, wanting to be sure that they will not be the cause of unwanted children or need for abortion, desire for the freedom from condoms and improve the spontaneity of lovemaking... the list goes on.

The thousands who have had normal experiences with the procedure and the benefits thereof far outweigh the one or two who have had difficulties. The numbers are about the same for positive and negative experiences with root canal work. For most, it's an effective treatment without much pain, with long-lasting positive results. For one or two, it's a terrible treatment.

totally agree; but we all have choices in life, which car to buy, where to live, which bread to buy.....all personal choices and as we get older our views, opinions change. It wuldnt surprise me if all those in favour of keeping their bits intact, at some point in the future will give it serious consideration.

But I think here, especially Thailand, where there is so much temptation around every corner just maybe you can relax in the knowledge that your "on the spur of the moment" decision will not lead to a pregnancy;...As you know our brains are in our dicks 99% of the time.

I for one could not function having to go through the performance of finding a small packet, with a long time g/f or wife.....

Good luck OP,

[Morakot]

I had mine at 39. No kids and never wanted any. Looking back, it was the best decision I ever made in my entire life, by far.

Had mine done at 28 after a set of twins. Never regretted it and never looked back.

Yep, had mine done at 19 after reading about cryobank storage on my local discussion forum.

[NeverSure]

I've been gone from the thread a while. What I want to know is, did the OP get neutered yet?

8000 baht? A vet will do it for 200 baht.

[cloudhopper]

I've been gone from the thread a while. What I want to know is, did the OP get neutered yet?

8000 baht? A vet will do it for 200 baht.

and another 7800 if you want any anesthetic.

[elektrified]

If I were to remarry at my age, personally I wouldn't want to bring a child into the world. Children should have a father that they can grow up with, rather than one who would be too old to take them trekking, play football with, and most likely die before they've reached the age of 10. I played with my father, I spent years and years camping, canoeing, rock climbing, skiing, etc. with my son, and believe all children should have this sort of time to spend together with a father. Having a baby by a senior citizen is, to me, not fair to the child

I couldn't agree with you more. It really is quite ridiculous seeing farangs in Thailand who are in their late 60's - early 70's with small children. I see it as quite selfish and without giving any thought to the children and their future.

[yannic]

Bumrungrad prices in Bangkok (ridiculous high, its even cheaper in Europe):

Vasectomy under LA - 25,000-28,000 Baht* (OPD)

*Price for above procedure under general anesthesia, please consult with our Urologist in person.

The above estimated costs do not include;

• The estimated doctor’s consultation fee may range from 600 – 1,500 Baht / doctor / OPD visit, although in some cases depending on various factors, the fee might vary from the estimate range.
  
• Any expenses not related to the procedure
  
• Costs arising from complications, such as additional medical conditions that may require special treatment during or after the procedure
  
• Any follow up costs
  
• Take-home medication and medical supplies
  

*** The estimated costs can be changed after you’ve already seen the surgeon at hospital ***

NOTE *These prices are for planning purposes only to assist the patient in understanding the possible range of costs. Actual estimates for care cannot be accurately provided until the patient has been examined by the Bumrungrad physician. The cost ranges provided are based upon our best understanding of the patient's condition at the time of contact and do not represent a minimum or maximum potential cost.

Please see more information of our urologists’/ general surgeons' profiles and their working hours at: http://www.bumrungrad.com/en/search-for-a-thailand-doctor [specialty - Urology (Genito-Urinary)] [specialty - Surgery, General Surgery]

For your information, we could provide some of the names of urologists’/ general surgeons’ profiles and their working hours as below:

1. Dr. Viroj Chodchoy - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Viroj-Chodchoy
   
2. Prof.Dr. Apichat Kongkanand - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Apichat-Kongkanand
   
3. Dr. Paibul Boonyapanichskul - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Paibul-Boonyapanichskul
   
4. Dr. Kavirach Tantiwongse - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Kavirach-Tantiwongse
   
5. Dr. Danaiphand Akarasakul - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Danaiphand-Akarasakul
   

1. Dr. Chanvit Tanphiphat - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Chanvit-Tanphiphat
   
2. Dr. Amnauy Wongsrisoontorn - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Amnauy-Wongsrisoontorn
   
3. Dr. Avtar Singhsachthep - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Avtar-Singhsachthep
   
4. Dr. Vatana Supromajakr - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Vatana-Supromajakr
   
5. Dr. Theerapol Angkoolpakdeekul - http://www.bumrungrad.com/doctors/Theerapol-Angkoolpakdeekul
   

The cost at BANGKOK ADVENTIST HOSPITAL dba Mission Hospital:

The cost for vasectomy is 15,000 - 18,000 THB maybe more or less 10 % . This cost already including dr. fee and nursing care. This procedure will be done by dr. Vason S, Urologist.

18.000 Baht is already around 450 Euro. For that price I can have it done properly in Europe. Bumrungrad is just rediculous expensive.

Costs seem cheaper in CM, but not sure if i would go for such a procedure to a province hospital.

[FolkGuitar]

totally agree; but we all have choices in life, which car to buy, where to live, which bread to buy.....all personal choices

All life is personal choice. I wouldn't presume to tell anyone what they should or should not do, and pray that they give me the same courtesy.

I couldn't agree with you more. It really is quite ridiculous seeing farangs in Thailand who are in their late 60's - early 70's with small children. I see it as quite selfish and without giving any thought to the children and their future.

As we all know, Thais consider family first. The very first question when meeting new Thais is often 'how many children do you have.' Older farang marrying young Thai girls had dam_n well better be able to give them children if they are ever going to have happy marriages. But personally, I don't think it's fair to the children. But that's just 'my' opinion. What others choose is entirely up to them.

I think I paid $125 USD for mine, (30+ years ago) and that included the follow-up laboratory testing proving that it was indeed the vas that was cut (my surgeon removed a 1/2 inch piece and both cauterized and stitched the remaining end) and the lab test a month later to test for sperm. I also received a signed and witnessed document stating that the proceedure was performed.

[TommoPhysicist]

If I were to remarry at my age, personally I wouldn't want to bring a child into the world. Children should have a father that they can grow up with, rather than one who would be too old to take them trekking, play football with, and most likely die before they've reached the age of 10. I played with my father, I spent years and years camping, canoeing, rock climbing, skiing, etc. with my son, and believe all children should have this sort of time to spend together with a father. Having a baby by a senior citizen is, to me, not fair to the child

I couldn't agree with you more. It really is quite ridiculous seeing farangs in Thailand who are in their late 60's - early 70's with small children. I see it as quite selfish and without giving any thought to the children and their future.

I have a one year old son, and plan on at least one more ...... if not two or three.

I'm only 58!

PS

Most Thai children don't go camping, trekking, canoing, rock climbing or skiing .... you are projecting your western values on a totally different society.

[elektrified]

If I were to remarry at my age, personally I wouldn't want to bring a child into the world. Children should have a father that they can grow up with, rather than one who would be too old to take them trekking, play football with, and most likely die before they've reached the age of 10. I played with my father, I spent years and years camping, canoeing, rock climbing, skiing, etc. with my son, and believe all children should have this sort of time to spend together with a father. Having a baby by a senior citizen is, to me, not fair to the child

I couldn't agree with you more. It really is quite ridiculous seeing farangs in Thailand who are in their late 60's - early 70's with small children. I see it as quite selfish and without giving any thought to the children and their future.

I have a one year old son, and plan on at least one more ...... if not two or three.

I'm only 58!

PS

Most Thai children don't go camping, trekking, canoing, rock climbing or skiing .... you are projecting your western values on a totally different society.

You're still young at 58 Tommo! A few years older than me. I said in the earlier post "men in their late 60's - early 70's".

Regarding "most Thai children don't go camping, trekking, canoing, rock climbing or skiing .... you are projecting your western values on a totally different society." That is true and many Thai kids are lazy and watch TV, DVD's, computer games and so forth all day long. I for one will influence my son with as much Western values I can to (hopefully) avoid this outcome. The g/f used to always go camping and hiking with her family in Thailand, so we will teach him camping. He has been in the swimming pool since he was about 3 months old and swims about 3 times a week now so we are off to a good start. He's been on a few hikes with me and seems to enjoy that too.

All we can do is do the best that we can

[FolkGuitar]

If I were to remarry at my age, personally I wouldn't want to bring a child into the world. Children should have a father that they can grow up with, rather than one who would be too old to take them trekking, play football with, and most likely die before they've reached the age of 10. I played with my father, I spent years and years camping, canoeing, rock climbing, skiing, etc. with my son, and believe all children should have this sort of time to spend together with a father. Having a baby by a senior citizen is, to me, not fair to the child

I couldn't agree with you more. It really is quite ridiculous seeing farangs in Thailand who are in their late 60's - early 70's with small children. I see it as quite selfish and without giving any thought to the children and their future.

I have a one year old son, and plan on at least one more ...... if not two or three.

I'm only 58!

I have no doubt that you will. Satisfy yourself. I wish you and your children well.

Most Thai children don't go camping, trekking, canoing, rock climbing or skiing .... you are projecting your western values on a totally different society.

Sorry, I should have realized to whom I was speaking and been clearer... The point I was making was that I 'spent many years interacting with my son, sharing our time together, in many different pursuits as he grew from childhood to manhood.' In Thai culture you could be playing football with your child. You could be swimming, playing tawkraw, fishing, bike riding, praying... Teaching children the values that will guide them through their lives. Spending quality time together, teaching your child to appreciate the world around him/her. Well, younger parents get to do that. You'll get to watch them for a few years. The youngest might remember what you looked like when he/she grows up. Maybe not.

[NeverSure]

I don't know. I don't. I'm 66 and sure don't want more kids, but what if I even married a gal who had a couple of tiny ones? Or maybe she got pregnant...

Then supposed I croaked in ten years. If I left that family in good shape financially by seeing to it they could inherit anything I had, had ten years to instill a work ethic and other values, and left them so they could attend university and get out of a small village somewhere, would I really be doing them any harm?

Years ago the Catholic Church declared something like "Give us a child until he is 6 years old, and he will always be Catholic." Maybe 6 years is all you need to shape a child's world view about work and responsibility and ethics...

The one thing I wouldn't do is marry a gal who had disasterous older kids.

Edit: And yes, I've read some threads about not being worth more dead than you are alive, so that would have to be worked out too.

[FolkGuitar]

I don't know. I don't. I'm 66 and sure don't want more kids, but what if I even married a gal who had a couple of tiny ones? Or maybe she got pregnant...

Then supposed I croaked in ten years. If I left that family in good shape financially by seeing to it they could inherit anything I had, had ten years to instill a work ethic and other values, and left them so they could attend university and get out of a small village somewhere, would I really be doing them any harm?

Do you really think that all a father should be is a money supplier?

Obviously one of the obligations of parenting is financial, and it's a major player in the duties of a parent, but there are many things a father teaches a child though out the life of the child, not just in adolescence and puberty. The teen years are vital as are the twenties and even the thirties to the development of a person. Frankly, I morn the loss of knowledge and wisdom taken from me when my father died when I was in my 50's. Had he passed away when I was 10... No... I really don't want to even consider that much loss, even though we were able to share activities together during those early pre-teen years.

I realize too that different cultures view a father's role differently. In some, neither parent plays as important a role as the Nanny or Governess. But that's not the case in Thailand. I also realize that kids can learn bad as well as good from a parent. Often that IS the case in Thailand. I think it's fortunate that many have already had a vasectomy. Perhaps it's a good way to improve the gene pool.

[TommoPhysicist]

I realize too that different cultures view a father's role differently. In some, neither parent plays as important a role as the Nanny or Governess. But that's not the case in Thailand.

Many Thai children are brought up entirely by their grandmother and have almost no contact with their parents.

I left my children in the UK when they were aged 5 and 7, unlikely to see them again.

Previously dumped another two kids in their early 20s, never saw them again either.

My parents were both dead by the time I was 22, I never did much with either of them.

25-40% of divorced fathers never see their children again.

You seem to have fairytale ideas about families and parents!

[FolkGuitar]

The one thing I wouldn't do is marry a gal who had disasterous older kids.

Gosh, you'd think that their father would have straightened them out!

Oh wait... There is no father around, which is why she's available for you not to marry!

Somebody needs to live long enough to teach the kids some values, and there are different values learned at different ages. A father needs to be around through all of them or else he shouldn't become a father. It's a life-long career, not a short-contract job. But then, this is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.

I'm glad that I got a vasectomy when I did. I have never regretted the decision, and it has only affected my life in a positive way.

[FolkGuitar]

I realize too that different cultures view a father's role differently. In some, neither parent plays as important a role as the Nanny or Governess. But that's not the case in Thailand.

Many Thai children are brought up entirely by their grandmother and have almost no contact with their parents.

I left my children in the UK when they were aged 5 and 7, unlikely to see them again.

Previously dumped another two kids in their early 20s, never saw them again either.

My parents were both dead by the time I was 22, I never did much with either of them.

This explains a lot. About your posts in this thread and in many others. You have my sincerest sympathy.

You seem to have fairytale ideas about families and parents!

Obviously we were brought up differently. I really only know what I experienced in my family while I was growing up, and saw around me in the families of my friends, and how I brought up my son. He's grown up now, married, and expecting his first child in the Spring, and even though we now live in different countries, we speak together regularly via Skype, and e-mail each other even more often. At this time we are collaborating on piece of acoustic blues... I add a riff and send it to him. He lays down another track and sends it back to me. I add another track and send it back to him... He's 37. I'm 65. We are still playing together as father and son. You're correct... it is like a fairytale.

It's not a fairytale that I could begin at age 65. I simply won't live long enough to see a newborn live to age 37.

[FolkGuitar]

I left my children in the UK when they were aged 5 and 7, unlikely to see them again.

Previously dumped another two kids in their early 20s, never saw them again either.

I have a one year old son, and plan on at least one more ...... if not two or three.

Let me see if I've got this right... You've already completely abandoned four children.

Now you say that you have another and may have one or two more. Will you abandon them too?

In an earlier post I mentioned that vasectomies were useful for some people .

I should have said they should be mandatory for some people.

[cloudhopper]

I left my children in the UK when they were aged 5 and 7, unlikely to see them again.

Previously dumped another two kids in their early 20s, never saw them again either.

My parents were both dead by the time I was 22, I never did much with either of them.

25-40% of divorced fathers never see their children again.

You seem to have fairytale ideas about families and parents!

And you seem to be a fan of the horror genre Tommo.

[elektrified]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/96-old-claims-world-oldest-father-video-202603744.html

[jaideeguy]

I'm proud to say that I got my vasectomy @ age 35 and didn't 'plant any seeds' [that I know of] before that. Now, I have adopted 2 Thai kids that came with my Thai wife and can say that I am one of the few that has contributed a negative 2 to this already overpopulated world. Get the snip!!!!.....there are too many people being born, mostly by idiots that can plant the seed but fall short when it comes to nurturing the tree.

[amexpat]

Six billion miracles is enough.

[yannic]

Six billion miracles is enough.

if it only were 6 we are at 7 billion already

• Per minute: 267 born, 107 die, (net population increase: 160)
  
• Per day: 384 thousand born, 153 thousand die, (net increase 231 thousand)
  
• Per year: 140.4 million born, 56 million die, (net increase 84.4 million)
  

In 11.8 year we will have reached 8 billion.