I think that #21 is probably correct. They will be declared innocent for lack of witnesses or lack of acceptable evidence (the dozens of videos on YouTube will probable not be "acceptable" for some technicality). I can't believe that the Boss will leave things to chance and not have a "word" with the prosecutors. But if there is any suspected foul play, there will be big demonstrations and the integrity of the court system will be damaged. Just speculation, of course, but this is Thailand.

We can all predict the next headlines: "Trial postponed because Nattawut has a headache" or "Trial postponed because Jatuporn sneezed"

Ear infection perhaps? Seems to be a bit of that going around.

More likely they know they have few legal feet to stand on,

and know if they go to jail, they will get the male version of

and "Itchy Ear" all day long and even longer at night.

America is staring at a Fiscal Cliff.

Thailand is running itself off of a Fecal Cliff,

and we know which Creek who's first name begins with S.

is down at the bottom of that decent.

So Khun A. [expletive] himself on the morning of his trial? Certainly not the action of a brave man.

But he already had told his red grunts in 2010 to fight "a l'outrance (to the death)" while himself chickening out at the earliest sign of danger, so what could we expect now?

edit: expletive removed by myself

Edited November 29, 201213 yr by MikeOboe57

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

Tell all his followers to bring an empty bottle with them to Bangkok..... he'll fill them when he gets there!

Problem can be solved with his own brainchild solution!

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

Then that should be decided by the courts and not the criminal that appointed them to MP positions to avoid/defer prosecution. That's how it works in a democracy.

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Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

Alleged being the operative word. // Off topic comments removed //

Edited November 29, 201213 yr by metisdead

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Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

Alleged being the operative word. // Off topic comments removed //

The judge postponed the first hearing until December 13 because a lawyer for Red Shirt militant leader Arisman Pongreungrong said his client could not attend the trial due to food poisoning.

"The court will only allow this one postponement," the judge said, as hundreds of police stood guard outside the court.

'only allow this one postponement'. Please tune in again on the 13th next month, a day which luckily isn't a Friday :-)

Not to Thais, I think Wednesday is the unlucky day to them

The judge postponed the first hearing until December 13 because a lawyer for Red Shirt militant leader Arisman Pongreungrong said his client could not attend the trial due to food poisoning.

"The court will only allow this one postponement," the judge said, as hundreds of police stood guard outside the court.

'only allow this one postponement'. Please tune in again on the 13th next month, a day which luckily isn't a Friday :-)

Cue pictures of defendants wolfing down helpings of late night somtaam at street stalls on the 10th, 11th and 12th.

Again, a display of tremendous courage, which is the hallmark of most Thai men. They are willing to commit the act, whether it be stealing one billion baht from the water resources management project, or running over, and killing a policeman while speeding at 200KM. per hour on the streets of Bangkok, but when it comes time to face the piper, all courage is lost, and they start wimpering, and behaving like 12 year old girls. So typical. I have seen this for years. Where is the big man now? Who expected this trial to happen? Imaging a Thai person in a position of authority or wealth being held responsible for their actions, even if it is a so called act of terrorism, or shooting someone (and killing them) in a restaurant, with a machine gun, that was next to your table? How is Thai society ever going to evolve, if the Thai people cannot understand the most basic concepts of being responsible for your actions, and the tremendous degradation to society, when nobody accepts this responsibility? Where does that leave us, when it comes to the future? Especially with the latest generation of Thai men being brought with far less in the way of principles, and morals than earlier generations. The legal and judicial systems here seem to be completely broken. I am a bit afraid of the direction this country may be going in. Am I the only one?

I totally agree, I've noticed this for years

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

What do you expect when the majority of the people and the entire government has the mental capacity of retarded 13-year-olds? I agree with another poster that if it were not for my wife here, I would be gone now. This is getting scary.

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

You are right. They were fighting freedom, and not only allegedly.

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

Fight for freedom does not involve wholesale terrorism or seizure of cities. Or perhaps the Reds are taking a leaf from the Al Qaeda manuals, the latter not having made it to cities yet.

Pretty disgusting when 5 alledged terrorists are current lawmakers

Says a lot for Thailand and its people

They are also alleged freedom fighters.

Fight for freedom does not involve wholesale terrorism or seizure of cities. Or perhaps the Reds are taking a leaf from the Al Qaeda manuals, the latter not having made it to cities yet.

Freedom fighters is a misnomer as is terrorist.

Can someone fill me in on how the actions of the leaders of the 2010 protests constitutes terrorism? I'm perhaps not as informed on this as I should be, but I would say that terrorism involves the planned use (or explicit threat) of violence against civilians in order to create terror in the general population so as to further one's political/religious (etc) aims. Attacks on military targets, I would say, do not constitute terrorism. Spontaneous acts of destruction during protests (as happened during some of the 'Occupy' protests) do not constitute terrorism. Etc etc. So I am curious about what exactly these Red Shirt leaders did that rises to the charge of terrorism. I'm not arguing against it (yet)... simply want to know.

So it is not allowed to comment on the justice system here? Mmmm can't comment on him who cannot be commented upon and now can't comment on the corrupt system of the system that cannot be commented upon. Next it will be cannot comment on the BIB or the MP's or anything that really matters. But can comment on itchy ears and other dross. What a sad state of affairs.

Can someone fill me in on how the actions of the leaders of the 2010 protests constitutes terrorism? I'm perhaps not as informed on this as I should be, but I would say that terrorism involves the planned use (or explicit threat) of violence against civilians in order to create terror in the general population so as to further one's political/religious (etc) aims. Attacks on military targets, I would say, do not constitute terrorism. Spontaneous acts of destruction during protests (as happened during some of the 'Occupy' protests) do not constitute terrorism. Etc etc. So I am curious about what exactly these Red Shirt leaders did that rises to the charge of terrorism. I'm not arguing against it (yet)... simply want to know.

Just go to youtube and search "Arisman burn".

So it is not allowed to comment on the justice system here? Mmmm can't comment on him who cannot be commented upon and now can't comment on the corrupt system of the system that cannot be commented upon. Next it will be cannot comment on the BIB or the MP's or anything that really matters. But can comment on itchy ears and other dross. What a sad state of affairs.

Its illegal to criticise a decision by a Thai court. That's life.

Anyway adjournment is the norm here - multiple adjournments for every reason under the sun if anyone is inconvenienced or doesn't turn up. The onus is on the prosecution as should be the case but here the Defence are given the guns and ammunition to fight any action and adjournment is just one of the many games to be played. There was more honour in primary school playing conkers than there is in the system that cannot be commented on and the corrupt lawyers and other corrupt big people who sit higher than you.

And they expect respect?

So it is not allowed to comment on the justice system here? Mmmm can't comment on him who cannot be commented upon and now can't comment on the corrupt system of the system that cannot be commented upon. Next it will be cannot comment on the BIB or the MP's or anything that really matters. But can comment on itchy ears and other dross. What a sad state of affairs.

Its illegal to criticise a decision by a Thai court. That's life.

No - that is Thailand

Can someone fill me in on how the actions of the leaders of the 2010 protests constitutes terrorism? I'm perhaps not as informed on this as I should be, but I would say that terrorism involves the planned use (or explicit threat) of violence against civilians in order to create terror in the general population so as to further one's political/religious (etc) aims. Attacks on military targets, I would say, do not constitute terrorism. Spontaneous acts of destruction during protests (as happened during some of the 'Occupy' protests) do not constitute terrorism. Etc etc. So I am curious about what exactly these Red Shirt leaders did that rises to the charge of terrorism. I'm not arguing against it (yet)... simply want to know.

What do you call a red leader telling people to burn it down? Just asking.

So it is not allowed to comment on the justice system here? Mmmm can't comment on him who cannot be commented upon and now can't comment on the corrupt system of the system that cannot be commented upon. Next it will be cannot comment on the BIB or the MP's or anything that really matters. But can comment on itchy ears and other dross. What a sad state of affairs.

Its illegal to criticise a decision by a Thai court. That's life.

No - that is Thailand

In other parts of the world, they don't deal in the absurd, so there us little or no criticism.

Can someone fill me in on how the actions of the leaders of the 2010 protests constitutes terrorism? I'm perhaps not as informed on this as I should be, but I would say that terrorism involves the planned use (or explicit threat) of violence against civilians in order to create terror in the general population so as to further one's political/religious (etc) aims. Attacks on military targets, I would say, do not constitute terrorism. Spontaneous acts of destruction during protests (as happened during some of the 'Occupy' protests) do not constitute terrorism. Etc etc. So I am curious about what exactly these Red Shirt leaders did that rises to the charge of terrorism. I'm not arguing against it (yet)... simply want to know.

Fingers in ears time and hands over eyes time concurrently. Well done

The judge postponed the first hearing until December 13 because a lawyer for Red Shirt militant leader Arisman Pongreungrong said his client could not attend the trial due to food poisoning.

May I offer k. Arisman best wishes to recovering, and some encouragement in this quote from Friedrich Nietzsche

"What does not kill him, makes him stronger" (was ihn nicht umbringt, macht ihn stärker)