Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 3.0 V6 Lpg Conversion

[sushi5734]

I was wondering if anyone on here has had a conversion done? I've just watched a video on YouTube by a company in Bangkok called hongtong gas who seemed to carry out a pretty professional conversion. I really like the pajero and according to the video they got 370 km from 772 bahts worth of gas just over 2 baht a km!! Obviously I'd prefer a factory installation but there doesn't seem to be anything available for the vehicles I like.

I'm trying to decide what car to go for next and the range of fuels available doesn't make things easy E85, E20, E10, LPG, ngv, cng, diesel, I'm bloody glad the petrol pumps aren't self service here it would take me 10 minutes to find the right fuel!!

I'd be interested to hear what experiences people's have had with LPG, regardless of car make and model.

I assume LPG is widely available?

[monty]

Make sure you get a good quality installation.

Properly done it will be as safe or better then the petrol equipment!

You'll lose warranty, at least on the engine.

Savings will be massive. Looks like the car burns around 15 liters/100 km on lpg, so probably around 12 liters on petrol so just under 5 Baht/km.

Plenty of lpg stations in Thailand.

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[aussiebebe]

LPG was promoted by the Thai government when oil prices spiked in 2008 (under PM Samak) to help combat the rising cost of living. So popular it became that Thailand became a net importer of LPG and successive governments have threatened to remove the subsidy and float the price. No factory-fitted systems are available in Thailand as previous governments have promoted domestically-produced natural gas (NGV). Despite this, LPG remains subsidized, widely available throughout Thailand and any conversion company you take your PJS to will offer an installation, no problem.

Before you do so, have a read of this UK website page here which outlines the problems post-2006 petrol engines may have with valve seat recession and burnt valves - this company stopped LPG installations and have a list of cars unsuitable for LPG conversion, maybe you could contact them to ask. They may not know, or may not bother to answer your question, but may be a more impartial source than hongtong gas. Their advice is:

Make Sure: if you do decide to have your car converted to LPG that you ask the installer to give you a written Guarantee that their LPG Conversion, together with any associated equipment including any Flashlube or other type of Valve Protection Systems used are suitable for your vehicle and will not cause Valve Seat Recession, Burnt out Valves or Engine Damage whilst running on LPG, and that they will Pay in Full for any repair costs associated with the above. If they won't do this consider the risks, as repairs will cost more than the conversion in the first place, and the system will need to be removed to prevent the same thing happening again.

If you think hongtong gas offer a professional installation, asking them for this guarantee would be a good place to start... all companies will happily take your money and give a warranty on the LPG system itself, but nothing more and Mitsubishi's warranty, as Monty noted, specifically excludes LPG-related engine damage.

[sushi5734]

Yep I'd definitely want a solid guarantee on their installation, if it were a 5-10 year old car I wouldn't be quite so wary but taking a brand new 1.3 million baht car to them would make my bottom twitch quite a bit!!

It's all hypothetical at the moment as I've still not made up my mind what car I want to go for and I'm minded to wait until ASEAN shakes the car market up a bit!!

The problem with all of these fuel types is that they all seem to be reliant on one form of government subside or another and trying to predict what any government in this country is going to do is impossible!!

[mogandave]

A warranty is only as good as the company providing it.

I would wait until the original warranty has expired.

How much do you really spend on fuel? I think you have to drive a pretty good bit to make it worthwhile. My 3L Isuzu costs a little less than 3 Baht per km for fuel.

[hlovers]

I just did a conversion of my old mercedes w124. It runs very smooth with gas, it feels the same as running on petrol. The shop is on rama 3 road, if you want the shop address please pm me.

[raffo77]

I was also going to get a PJS V6 and convert it to LPG. have a good experience with my 10 year old camry converted to LPG more than a year ago. Mitsu salesperson was frank enough to tell me that the V6 doesn't take the conversion well, so I looked for another car

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