PM: 2006 coup d'etat makes country lose opportunities; thus amendment needed

NAKHON RATCHASIMA, 7 January 2013 (NNT) - The premier has said that the 2006 military coup d'etat has created detrimental effects on the nation and caused foreigners to lose confidence in Thailand. She called for constitution amendment for a full democratic law with check and balance.

During a seminar of Pheu Thai Party members at Khao Yai in Nakhon Ratchasima, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said the Party would like to see a shift of power to the people through a democratic process. After traveling to many different nations, she has found that Thailand lacks acceptance from foreigners, especially those from democratic countries. However she said after the democratic election in 2011, the kingdom has gain more acceptance.

Ms Yingluck stated that there remained some laws that were not well accepted internationally; therefore, the move to amend the laws must go on in order to make the constitution a truely democratic one.

The premier claimed that her government is committed to working to develop the country, citing the economy in the third and fourth quarters of 2012 improved well. She expected that the economy in 2013 will grow by 5.5%.

-- NNT 2013-01-08

Foreigners lack acceptance of a country ruled by incompetence which allow there supporters to behave like thugs to threaten people who don't agree with them and the judiciary. This amendment is needed because your brother says so, nothing more nothing less. Only the reds would believe your BS or rather they don't care. Everyone else knows otherwise.

Foreign loss of confidence in Thailand could possibly be based upon the coup system of government. Greedy pigs take over the feeding trough, then the military has to step in , and throw them out. Then new greedy pigs take over the trough again . What a sad cycle. Think we are at coup number 19.

For Yingluck to propose a charter amendment ( pardon Thaksin) to increase investor confidence 7 years AFTER the coup is so absurd it defies belief.

Emoticon on : shake head in amazement

Yingluck, the reason the foreign community is losing confidence in Thailand is because:

1. You and your "team" are not capable of running this country.

2. Your government puts personal interest before national interest.

3. Whitewashing crimes is seen as something very undemocratic in the eyes of the developed world.

4. Abusing power to silence the oppositions is not very democratic neither.

Yiingluck, maybe the problems lies with you, your criminal brother and your self-serving government? Ever thought about that?

Edited January 8, 201313 yr by Nickymaster

Removing article 309 from the constitution will not make the 2006 coup magically disappear. It happened. It's in the past.

Unless they have plans to charge the coup generals (one of which is in the current government), there is no point in specifically removing that clause ...

well, no point except to white wash Thaksin's crimes, of course.

And the absurdity of trying to say that the Checks and Balances have been weakened by the new constitution buggers belief.

It was put in exactly to strengthen those checks and balances that Thaksin and crew were running rough shod across.

Opening up the constitution for amendment can white wash Thaksin

give him some revenge on those that denied HIM economic opportunities,

and make all the changes made to curtail abuse of power less stringent.

They will not stop at one or two changes if they can present and pass several fast.

The lack of international acceptance is more predicated on a liege lord abroad,

nakedly and without shame, pulling the strings to control the government,

to move his personal aims forward, and with the uncertainly of how long

that situation can be tolerated before the house of cards crashes down.

Edited January 8, 201313 yr by animatic

Was wondering how many oportunities were lost by the red riots?

How many were put off visiting a country that had thugs rampaging in the streets of BKK.

And the one who organised those riots is now running the country from his self imposed exile in another country.

Another garbled speech by Yingluck that is all sound bite and no substance. What are the laws she has identified that need changing?

"After traveling to many different nations, she has found that Thailand lacks acceptance from foreigners, especially those from democratic countries".

Why would non-democratic countries lack of acceptance of Thailand prompt Yingluck to say, "[the] move to amend the laws must go on in order to make the constitution a truely democratic one."

Edited January 8, 201313 yr by waza

Unbelievable! Is she really so naive and actually believes what she's blabbering or have these words perhaps been spoon-fed to her by "someone"?

Ma'am, how many times have you insisted publicly in the past few months that foreigners had tremendous confidence in Thailand? Wasn't all your extensive traveling abroad over the past year primarily intended to further shore up that confidence and didn't you claim each and every time what a smashing success your respective trip was? And now this revelation? The mind boggles.

Ma'am, a coup that took place almost 7 years ago has little bearing on the confidence of foreign investors in Thailand. If you want to search for reasons that might actually shake that confidence, I believe you must be looking closer to home: institutionalised corruption with everyone getting their turn at the feeding trough, red-shirted thugs running rampage and even being offered cabinet posts, a government that is directed/played by a fugitive convicted felon from abroad, incompetent ministers who earned their posts due to dubious "loyalties" instead of capabilities; and the list goes on.

Most people on the streets (those who you claim you represent) are perfectly aware why your government is pushing so vehemently to amend the current constitution: because the current checks and balances must be done away with to enable more feeding at the trough, because the judiciary is deemed too powerful and curbs those feeding frenzies all too often, and of course as a first step to enable the glorious return of the messiah.

This Gov't will stop at nothing to bring Thasin back with a clean slate

Change this, erase this ... pretend this did not happen.

If people have no confience in Thailand it is because Thailand is run on pure corruption

Sorry to be blunt but foreign countries get very wary when they see third world countries run by 'families'.

Leaders who appoint their relatives as opposeed to the most qualified to top positions are always viewed with suspicion.

Edited January 8, 201313 yr by bigbamboo

"...she has found that Thailand lacks acceptance from foreigners...." Perhaps if Thailand starting accepting foreigners and not just their wallets, Thailand will be more accepted.

Ma'am, a coup that took place almost 7 years ago has little bearing on the confidence of foreign investors in Thailand.

Indeed, I would think that the potential for another one if this administration doesn't back off on one of it's aims would cause more trepidation amongst investors.

Thailand should get used to the fact that she will be seen as a backward country. Imagine what will happen when the Neo Fascists of the PAD get their way and Thailand reject International Court rulings because a handful of ultra rightists nationalists whose roots are in China anyhow and whose parents or grandparents all entered Thailand illegally get their way.

Of course amendments are necessary just as the immunity laws for democracy rapists need to be repealed and criminals like Sondhi must be locked up.

Thailand should get used to the fact that she will be seen as a backward country. Imagine what will happen when the Neo Fascists of the PAD get their way and Thailand reject International Court rulings because a handful of ultra rightists nationalists whose roots are in China anyhow and whose parents or grandparents all entered Thailand illegally get their way.

Of course amendments are necessary just as the immunity laws for democracy rapists need to be repealed and criminals like Sondhi must be locked up.

We're all for the amendment if there's a clause that says "doesn't apply to Thaksin Shinawatra".

Unbelievable! Is she really so naive and actually believes what she's blabbering or have these words perhaps been spoon-fed to her by "someone"?

Ma'am, how many times have you insisted publicly in the past few months that foreigners had tremendous confidence in Thailand? Wasn't all your extensive traveling abroad over the past year primarily intended to further shore up that confidence and didn't you claim each and every time what a smashing success your respective trip was? And now this revelation? The mind boggles.

Ma'am, a coup that took place almost 7 years ago has little bearing on the confidence of foreign investors in Thailand. If you want to search for reasons that might actually shake that confidence, I believe you must be looking closer to home: institutionalised corruption with everyone getting their turn at the feeding trough, red-shirted thugs running rampage and even being offered cabinet posts, a government that is directed/played by a fugitive convicted felon from abroad, incompetent ministers who earned their posts due to dubious "loyalties" instead of capabilities; and the list goes on.

Most people on the streets (those who you claim you represent) are perfectly aware why your government is pushing so vehemently to amend the current constitution: because the current checks and balances must be done away with to enable more feeding at the trough, because the judiciary is deemed too powerful and curbs those feeding frenzies all too often, and of course as a first step to enable the glorious return of the messiah.

I think she forgets that Abhist went a long way towards reassuring foreigners that there will be no more coups when they kicked ass on her brothers attempt in 2010.

I believe she forgets (conveniently) that if it had not been for the last coup Thailand would now be a dictatorship.

51:49, visa regs and corruption have lost this country 1,000,000 times more opportunity than a coup.

I believe she forgets (conveniently) that if it had not been for the last coup Thailand would now be a dictatorship.

Isnt that PTP's real goal here... to undo that and set the train back on the dictatorship tracks?

Thailand should get used to the fact that she will be seen as a backward country. Imagine what will happen when the Neo Fascists of the PAD get their way and Thailand reject International Court rulings because a handful of ultra rightists nationalists whose roots are in China anyhow and whose parents or grandparents all entered Thailand illegally get their way.

Of course amendments are necessary just as the immunity laws for democracy rapists need to be repealed and criminals like Sondhi must be locked up.

If they actually had the slightest intention of locking Sondhi up, I can understand why they would want to change the constitution to remove article 309.

Since that clearly doesn't seem to be the case, there is only one reason that they want to remove it.

Ma'am, a coup that took place almost 7 years ago has little bearing on the confidence of foreign investors in Thailand.

Indeed, I would think that the potential for another one if this administration doesn't back off on one of it's aims would cause more trepidation amongst investors.

Good post, right on it, why can the legal avenues not take care of any maladministration.....the threat of a coup to maintain control is an unacceptable approach in the modern world....obviously something is wrong and changes are required

It is becoming apparent that many of the people leading Thailands government are aflicted by various problems, some are legal, some physical, some mental, some are moral, etc. The numbers seem to be increasing with each new election, appointment, and cabinet change. The proposals, excuses, etc that we hear,.seem to support the possibllity of an affliction, which has many symptons of 'cerebal hypxia'..

There are many causes of said affliction, some happen at birth, some thru substance abuse, some self inflicted, while some are caused by other individuals or even envirnmential factors. I have heard that Dubai caters to those so afflicted, thus their displacement to same, may be a final solution to Thailands' multitude of self inflicted problems.

Bring your business to Thailand.

The wages are great - just went up only 50%.

We welcomed companies such as Pepsi, Pizza Hut and Carlsberg.

We have great relationships with Zimbabwe and Uganda

And it only floods sometimes.

Ma'am, a coup that took place almost 7 years ago has little bearing on the confidence of foreign investors in Thailand.

Indeed, I would think that the potential for another one if this administration doesn't back off on one of it's aims would cause more trepidation amongst investors.

Good post, right on it, why can the legal avenues not take care of any maladministration.....the threat of a coup to maintain control is an unacceptable approach in the modern world....obviously something is wrong and changes are required

If I understand you're post correctly, you are saying that changes are required to remove the threat of a coup. How so?

Changes to the constitution and whitewash bills will not remove the coup possibility but more likely increase it.

As mentioned already, one-family 'democracies' are not well regarded by investors. Nor are totally incompetent governments who mishandle a major flood. Nor are investors enamoured with a block on new mobile phone operators, or cable TV favouritism. The list goes on.

Removing article 309 or whitewashing a criminal is nothing to do with foreign investment, only the PTP & family benefit.

Indeed , Yingluck has grounds to caution on the loss of opertunity as a result of the coup in 2006 as I am sure that the Shinawatra clan lost some of their opertunity in bleeding this country dry. But you have got to admire their resolve as in the face of all this adversity, they are still trying. Greed is a hard and powerful master.

Indeed , Yingluck has grounds to caution on the loss of opertunity as a result of the coup in 2006 as I am sure that the Shinawatra clan lost some of their opertunity in bleeding this country dry. But you have got to admire their resolve as in the face of all this adversity, they are still trying. Greed is a hard and powerful master.

Political poppycock aimed at brainwashing the uninitiated.

Thailand should get used to the fact that she will be seen as a backward country. Imagine what will happen when the Neo Fascists of the PAD get their way and Thailand reject International Court rulings because a handful of ultra rightists nationalists whose roots are in China anyhow and whose parents or grandparents all entered Thailand illegally get their way.

Of course amendments are necessary just as the immunity laws for democracy rapists need to be repealed and criminals like Sondhi must be locked up.

We're all for the amendment if there's a clause that says "doesn't apply to Thaksin Shinawatra".

So is Abhisit as well.

Anyone bemused by the reactionary drivel posted above should see the excellent opinion piece by Songkran Grachangnetara in the other paper today

Thailand should get used to the fact that she will be seen as a backward country. Imagine what will happen when the Neo Fascists of the PAD get their way and Thailand reject International Court rulings because a handful of ultra rightists nationalists whose roots are in China anyhow and whose parents or grandparents all entered Thailand illegally get their way.

Of course amendments are necessary just as the immunity laws for democracy rapists need to be repealed and criminals like Sondhi must be locked up.

We're all for the amendment if there's a clause that says "doesn't apply to Thaksin Shinawatra".

So is Abhisit as well.

Abhisit already said he doesn't want this. He's here willing to stand trial for his 'crimes'. Thaksin's too much of a coward to do this. So he's getting his sister to push for this.

Thailand should get used to the fact that she will be seen as a backward country. Imagine what will happen when the Neo Fascists of the PAD get their way and Thailand reject International Court rulings because a handful of ultra rightists nationalists whose roots are in China anyhow and whose parents or grandparents all entered Thailand illegally get their way.

Of course amendments are necessary just as the immunity laws for democracy rapists need to be repealed and criminals like Sondhi must be locked up.

We're all for the amendment if there's a clause that says "doesn't apply to Thaksin Shinawatra".

So is Abhisit as well.

Abhisit already said he doesn't want this. He's here willing to stand trial for his 'crimes'. Thaksin's too much of a coward to do this. So he's getting his sister to push for this.

Abhisit said he would agree on the amendment if it´s ecxludes him and Thaksin.

Abhisit said he would agree on the amendment if it´s ecxludes him and Thaksin.

Yeap that's a true man.