News_Editor Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 15-year-old boy kills 5 people inside New Mexico home < br /> 2013-01-21 04:50:16 GMT+7 (ICT) ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO (BNO NEWS) -- A teenage boy believed to be about 15 years old has been arrested after allegedly killing two adults and three children at a home near Albuquerque in New Mexico, local authorities said on Sunday. The motive was not immediately known. The incident happened at about 9:15 p.m. local time on Saturday when deputies were called to a house in an unincorporated area approximately 7 miles (11.2 kilometers) southwest of downtown Albuquerque. The officers discovered a total of five bodies when they arrived at the scene. Deputy Aaron Williamson, a spokesman for the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department, described the victims as an adult male, an adult female, a male juvenile and two female juveniles. Their identities or ages were not immediately released. "All the victims appeared to have suffered multiple gunshot wounds," Williamson said. Investigators said it appeared multiple weapons, including an assault-type rifle, were used in the killings. One male juvenile was arrested at the scene and has been charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death. Williamson said the boy is believed to be in his mid- to late teens, but he was unable to provide a specific age. Local news reports said the suspect is about 15 years old. The boy's motive and connection to the five victims were not immediately known. The mass shooting comes days after U.S. President Barack Obama announced a series of measures aimed at reducing gun violence. Obama signed 23 executive orders to stem a rash of gun violence and has called on U.S. Congress to ban military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. "Many assault rifles, when combined with high-capacity magazines, have one purpose and one purpose only: to fire as many bullets as possible as quickly as possible," Obama said in his weekly address on Saturday. "These weapons have no place in our communities. And a majority of the American people agree with me." Obama has also called on U.S. Congress to require a universal background check for anyone trying to buy a gun. Current laws already require licensed gun dealers to perform these checks, but loopholes allow as many as 40 percent of all gun purchases to take place without background checks. The push for gun control comes in the wake of last month's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, a town about 7 miles (11 kilometers) east of Danbury in Connecticut. The shootings resulted in the deaths of 20 young children and six adults, making it the second-deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. The gunman, who also killed his mother before the school shooting, then took his own life. -- © BNO News All rights reserved 2013-01-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sad story Pastor and community leader and his family shot by son with AR-15. Sounds like they had a small arsenal in house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sad story Pastor and community leader and his family shot by son with AR-15. Sounds like they had a small arsenal in house. The article I read in Yahoo says nothing about the shooter being a son or that he used an AR-15. No details have been released that I am aware of. Please post a link if you have more current information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the article: "Covington said detectives were working to positively identify the five victims as well as the teenager's relationship to them." ...and... "Authorities said each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and several guns were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns." http://news.yahoo.co...-235547981.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Oh look, gun- lovers! Here we go again! http://news.yahoo.com/teenager-reportedly-used-ar-15-kill-five-mexico-225610219.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Sad story Pastor and community leader and his family shot by son with AR-15. Sounds like they had a small arsenal in house. The article I read in Yahoo says nothing about the shooter being a son or that he used an AR-15. No details have been released that I am aware of. Please post a link if you have more current information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the article: "Covington said detectives were working to positively identify the five victims as well as the teenager's relationship to them." ...and... "Authorities said each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and several guns were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns." http://news.yahoo.co...-235547981.html Just illustrates how really in the dark you are trying to formulate opinions about what is going on in US when you have nit lived here in over ten years. News channels I guess are more update that your Yahoo source. Could have Googled like I just did and seen name if father shot dead and name of shooter they are saying is his son. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/nehemiah-griego-15-accused-killing-pastor-father-and-2-kids-new-mexico-shooting Nehemiah Griego, 15, Accused of Killing Pastor Father and 3 Kids in New Mexico Shooting http://www.whatsonchengdu.com/news-5459-albuquerque-shooting-us-teen-boy-nehemiah-griego-15-kills-5-incl-his-parents.html Albuquerque shooting: US teen boy Nehemiah Griego, 15, kills 5 incl. his parents Edited January 21, 2013 by F430murci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sad story Pastor and community leader and his family shot by son with AR-15. Sounds like they had a small arsenal in house. The article I read in Yahoo says nothing about the shooter being a son or that he used an AR-15. No details have been released that I am aware of. Please post a link if you have more current information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the article: "Covington said detectives were working to positively identify the five victims as well as the teenager's relationship to them." ...and... "Authorities said each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and several guns were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns." http://news.yahoo.co...-235547981.html Just illustrates how really in the dark you are trying to formulate opinions about what is going on in US when you have nit lived here in over ten years. News channels I guess are more update that your Yahoo source. Could have Googled like I just did and seen name if father shot dead and name of shooter they are saying is his son. http://www.opposingv...mexico-shooting I simply asked for a link. That is hardly cause for you to get on your soapbox and throw sarcasm at those who might have questions about your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Sad story Pastor and community leader and his family shot by son with AR-15. Sounds like they had a small arsenal in house. The article I read in Yahoo says nothing about the shooter being a son or that he used an AR-15. No details have been released that I am aware of. Please post a link if you have more current information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the article: "Covington said detectives were working to positively identify the five victims as well as the teenager's relationship to them." ...and... "Authorities said each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and several guns were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns." http://news.yahoo.co...-235547981.html Just illustrates how really in the dark you are trying to formulate opinions about what is going on in US when you have nit lived here in over ten years. News channels I guess are more update that your Yahoo source. Could have Googled like I just did and seen name if father shot dead and name of shooter they are saying is his son. http://www.opposingv...mexico-shooting I simply asked for a link. That is hardly cause for you to get on your soapbox and throw sarcasm at those who might have questions about your posts. Like I would just make that up . . . Not understand why you cannot Google it rather than imply I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The article I read in Yahoo says nothing about the shooter being a son or that he used an AR-15. No details have been released that I am aware of. Please post a link if you have more current information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the article: "Covington said detectives were working to positively identify the five victims as well as the teenager's relationship to them." ...and... "Authorities said each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and several guns were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns." http://news.yahoo.co...-235547981.html Just illustrates how really in the dark you are trying to formulate opinions about what is going on in US when you have nit lived here in over ten years. News channels I guess are more update that your Yahoo source. Could have Googled like I just did and seen name if father shot dead and name of shooter they are saying is his son. http://www.opposingv...mexico-shooting I simply asked for a link. That is hardly cause for you to get on your soapbox and throw sarcasm at those who might have questions about your posts. Like I would just make that up . . . Not understand why you cannot Google it rather than imply I am wrong. I have a rather regular routine when I arise from my slumber and get on the internet. That does not include Googling everything you post. I am not into looking at obscure blogs, although your obscure blog did mention this..."While CNN and the New York Daily News have yet to identify the shooter and victims, The Daily Mail is reporting -- citing sheriff’s office sources -- that Griego was in fact the alleged gunman." So if I even looked at CNN it is unlikely I would have known all the so-called facts you reported. You may be right with your allegations, however I never implied anything about you. I merely stated what I read and asked for a link to see what you had read. It ain't rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted January 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2013 I suggest that posters return to the topic. This off-topic discourse can cease voluntarily or involuntarily. It's up to you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chicog Posted January 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2013 (CNN) -- Sheriff's investigators combed through what one called a "horrific" crime scene Sunday after the shooting deaths of five people, three of them children, at a home outside Albuquerque, New Mexico. A well-known local pastor and four of his relatives were among the victims, according to those who knew him. Each victim was shot multiple times, said Lt. Sid Covington of the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department, and one of the weapons used was what he described as an assault rifle. Sheriff Dan Houston said a 15-year-old boy, who "may be a family member," was charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death. I'd like to think a member of law enforcement would know what an "assault rifle" is, so let's not start that stupid argument again. More senseless killing, and another disturbed youngster. Seems to me that Obama's plan needs to be implemented ASAP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Do you think the NRA will sue him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Do you think the NRA will sue him? An off-topic rant has been deleted. This thread isn't about Amendments to the US Constitution. I doubt the NRA would sue him, but if he mislabels the gun, he will be eaten alive by Thaivisa posters on one side or the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Do you think the NRA will sue him? No, but hopefully they will keep up the effort to educate the public, so that it's understood the same thing could be accomplihed with a handgun, or shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Do you think the NRA will sue him? No, but hopefully they will keep up the effort to educate the public, so that it's understood the same thing could be accomplihed with a handgun, or shotgun. Let's wait and see how many guns were laying around this particular EDP's house. Oh, didn't have to wait long. Authorities said each victim suffered more than one gunshot wound, and several guns were found at the home, one of which was a semi-automatic military-style rifle. Investigators were trying to determine who owned the guns. So it's worth noting that having several firearms in the house did not protect this particular family. Edited January 21, 2013 by Chicog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechguy Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Also worth noting then, an assault weapon ban wouldn't have made any difference, and a background check, gun control laws, etc. didn't prevent this kid from getting a weapon and breaking several laws. Edited January 21, 2013 by beechguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Also worth noting then, an assault weapon ban wouldn't have made any difference, and a background check, gun control laws, etc. didn't prevent this kid from getting a weapon and breaking several laws. Correct, it sounds like he used his Dads. What if Dad didn't have them? Might have been able to stop him if he was only wielding a knife. Just another family sacrificed on the altar of the NRA church. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Off-topic posts and replies deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Do you think the NRA will sue him? No, but hopefully they will keep up the effort to educate the public, so that it's understood the same thing could be accomplihed with a handgun, or shotgun. Educate the public about what, gun safety. And these are the responsible gun owners were are supposed to trust on educating us on this issue? http://www.witn.com/news/stateregional/headlines/2-Hurt-In-Accidental-Shooting-At-Raleigh-Gun-Show-187593771.html?mobile=yes&device=iphone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post F430murci Posted January 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2013 Also worth noting then, an assault weapon ban wouldn't have made any difference, and a background check, gun control laws, etc. didn't prevent this kid from getting a weapon and breaking several laws. Does any of this really matter? We have an entire family wiped out. 2 year old and 5 year old little girls shot multiple times for Christ sakes and all some worry about is whether their feeling of entitlement might be threatened. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted January 21, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2013 Perhaps there is a rational explanation? I prefer to wait until the NRA and FOX provide me with the credible facts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sing_Sling Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Wouldn't a pastor pray for safety, like Perry is suggesting? Yes, another tragedy . . . and another good reason not to have guns in private hands . . . unless the right wing media and the NRA start another round of 'he was mentally ill and what are WE doing about these people in our society'. I had an American friend tell me he needs his guns because all the gangbangers have them and he doesn't feel safe. My friend lives in Scottsdale . . . I also have another friend who is shit-scared about private gun ownership . . . he is a cop in Phoenix. Domestic disturbances and traffic stops are his least favorute activity due to not knowing of some loony is going to pull a weapon on him for no reason. I guess he's just a 6'3, 230lb Irish-Catholic pussy who hates America because he believes in gun control 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The sheriff will need to exercise care in what he calls a particular gun. There is a legal definition of an assault rifle. Do you think the NRA will sue him? No, but hopefully they will keep up the effort to educate the public, so that it's understood the same thing could be accomplihed with a handgun, or shotgun. NRA educating the what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Perhaps there is a rational explanation? I prefer to wait until the NRA and FOX provide me with the credible facts. It was the violent video games that did it this time. or Guns don't kill as many people as cars do. Guns just lay around the house, in drawers and cabinets, totally harmless. Whereas for cars... they are lurking, furtively in every drive way, sometimes 2 or 3 to a single house, just waiting.... Edited January 22, 2013 by NanLaew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocN Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Perhaps there is a rational explanation? I prefer to wait until the NRA and FOX provide me with the credible facts. ...and I can't wait for all the conspiracy- theorists...oh wait...maybe not enough dead people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidu Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 When there's a killing by a user of meth or heroin, the newspapers scream 'drug crime'! When there's a killing fueled by alcohol, it's 'a crime.' When there's a killing related to Muslim extremists, the newspapers say, "perpetrated by Muslim extremists." When there's a killing related to Bible-thumping Christians (which this one may or may not be), it's called 'a crime.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 When there is an off-topic post, it's removed. And one has been. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think we will take a pass on the idea that the Sandy Hill killings and this one were done by the government and any of the variations on that theory. Post and replies deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I think we will take a pass on the idea that the Sandy Hill killings and this one were done by the government and any of the variations on that theory. Post and replies deleted. Wow, really? Someone said that? Missed that one. What is really disconcerting is the possibility of someone having a gun that truly thinks in that manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Another couple of deaths at a college in Houston, apparently a personal squabble that someone decided to settle with his handgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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