Democrats Firm In Opposition To Blanket Amnesty, Abhisit Says

[Lite Beer]

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Democrats firm in opposition to blanket amnesty, Abhisit says

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The Democrat Party will not waver in its resistance to a sweeping pardon for political protesters even if it has to go it alone, the party leader said yesterday.

"I don't think, however, that the Democrats will be isolated or kept out of the ongoing talks on amnesty," Abhisit Vejjajiva said.

Last week's secret meeting on amnesty strategy arranged by Deputy House Speaker Charoen Chankomol was not intended as a snub against the party, he said.

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The main opposition party's own amnesty proposal was very clear and consistent - leniency should be reserved for violators of the emergency decree, he said. Those rally organisers involved in instigating arson attacks, violence, firings at crowds and the killing of people, as well as graft, should not be covered, he said.

The Democrats want the government to explain whether its proposal for a pardon was a pretext to rescue former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra from his self-imposed exile abroad, he said.

If the government is sincere about clemency only for political protesters, then it should demonstrate this by abandoning the four bills on amnesty and reconciliation that were designed to save Thaksin, he said.

The amnesty bill should contain clear, simple and straightforward provisions on protesters and not cover rally organisers, he said.

The call to set up a panel to review which organisers were entitled to mercy would lead to arbitrary decisions, he added.

-- The Nation 2013-02-11

[mca]

Bloody hell the years have certainly taken their toll on The Rocksteady Crew.

Edited February 11, 2013 by mca

[Locationthailand]

I think this is very straight forward, is workable but the nagging thorn in the side is the Reds want Thaksin back and also save his hack motor-mouth Jatuporn, allowing them both to walk.

What, if anything is wrong with this statement as it is a clear path to stop the BS and get on with it?

"...leniency should be reserved for violators of the emergency decree, he said. Those rally organisers involved in instigating arson attacks, violence, firings at crowds and the killing of people, as well as graft, should not be covered..."

[Siripon]

As so often Apisit talks complete common sense.

[OzMick]

Are there any people who committed minor offences still in prison, or whose cases are yet to be heard? If not, who is the amnesty for - the agitators and propagandists, the mercenary militants, arsonists and bomb-makers? And off-shore criminals.

[siampolee]

The Democrats want the government to explain whether its proposal for a pardon was a pretext to rescue former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra from his self-imposed exile abroad, he said.

If the government is sincere about clemency only for political protesters, then it should demonstrate this by abandoning the four bills on amnesty and reconciliation that were designed to save Thaksin, he said.

Before our very eyes there is the crux of the matter, the paymaster wants it his way or no way.

Interesting to note that this current maladministration has done nothing to help the Red Shirt pawns that are incarcerated yet the paid lobbyists were all give secure sinecures of party seats so as to give them immunity from prosecution while Parliament is in session.

Interesting to see the skewed view that the P.T.P. (Parasite and Tick Party) have on democracy, perhaps if the signature quote on my post from is read again all will come to realise that democracy is but a word for the current maladministration.

Edited February 11, 2013 by siampolee

[Tatsujin]

Although I'm not a particularly big fan of Abhisit, his stance on "amnesty" is the one that I agree with most and the one that makes most sense to me.

However, as the whole "amnesty" issue is merely a pretext to bring back Big Brother, it's unlikely (never going to happen) the current Govt will agree with his suggestions.

[Noistar]

Seems to be taking a while for other members of the forum to warm up.

Unless we use the assumption that everything to do with Abhisit is bad, this seems to be, another, bit of common sense.

Other topics drone on about Abhisit talking but not taking action. I think the current state of democracy in Thailand might have something to do with that.

Unless he takes a leaf out of the Red book of 'action' of course.

[Briandajew]

Bloody hell the years have certainly taken their toll on The Rocksteady Crew.

Abhisit is beginning to look a lot like Boy George these days - just before his final demise!

[siampolee]

Noistar post # 8

Unless we use the assumption that everything to do with Abhisit is bad, this seems to be, another, bit of common sense.

Aha, remember the sayings,,'' Slowly Slowly catchee monkey. '' also Revenge is a dish best eaten cold. ''

[jackspratt]

Bloody hell the years have certainly taken their toll on The Rocksteady Crew.

Abhisit is beginning to look a lot like Boy George these days - just before his final demise!

Wow - a couple of off-topic, and totally inane responses to an otherwise important issue.

[mca]

Bloody hell the years have certainly taken their toll on The Rocksteady Crew.

Abhisit is beginning to look a lot like Boy George these days - just before his final demise!

Wow - a couple of off-topic, and totally inane responses to an otherwise important issue.

An issue so important to you that you chose not to post your opinion but just post pointing out my inanity which in itself makes your post off-topic.....I think.

[indyuk]

The Democrats want the government to explain whether its proposal for a pardon was a pretext to rescue former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra from his self-imposed exile abroad, he said.

If the government is sincere about clemency only for political protesters, then it should demonstrate this by abandoning the four bills on amnesty and reconciliation that were designed to save Thaksin, he said.

Before our very eyes there is the crux of the matter, the paymaster wants it his way or no way.

Interesting to note that this current maladministration has done nothing to help the Red Shirt pawns that are incarcerated yet the paid lobbyists were all give secure sinecures of party seats so as to give them immunity from prosecution while Parliament is in session.

Interesting to see the skewed view that the P.T.P. (Parasite and Tick Party) have on democracy, perhaps if the signature quote on my post from is read again all will come to realise that democracy is but a word for the current maladministration.

Whatever your opinion of the current government democracy is about the will of the people not a handful of oposition members the can't deal with change. Persuing amnesty based on the Democrat leaders short list could never work.

[waza]

A pretty definite stance as usual.

[siampolee]

Whatever your opinion of the current government democracy is about the will of the people not a handful of oposition members the can't deal with change. Persuing amnesty based on the Democrat leaders short list could never work.

The post should read thus

Whatever your opinion of the current government democracy is about the will of the people not a handful of P.T.P. (Parasites and Ticks Party) members it is a known fact that their puppet master can't deal with change. Persuing amnesty based on the Democrat leaders short list could never work.

Read my signature.

PM'S DECLARATION:'Democracy is not my goal' Thaksin suggests he'll block any move for amendments to rein in his power

Seen it all in my 22+ years here this current maladministration is the most corrupt of all It puts Cha Chai Choonhaven and his old buffet cabinet in the shade without a doubt.

Edited February 12, 2013 by siampolee

[jackspratt]

Bloody hell the years have certainly taken their toll on The Rocksteady Crew.

Abhisit is beginning to look a lot like Boy George these days - just before his final demise!

Wow - a couple of off-topic, and totally inane responses to an otherwise important issue.

An issue so important to you that you chose not to post your opinion but just post pointing out my inanity which in itself makes your post off-topic.....I think.

What does "otherwise important issue" indicate to you?

Perhaps I should have focused on Abhisit's haircut. That would have really added substance to the thread.

Edited February 12, 2013 by jackspratt