smedly Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think the answer is very individual, if you've been riding a 100-125cc bike then a 250cc could be big to you, likewise 400cc looking at a 650cc upwards, but in saying that I think you're asking the wrong question, I classify bikes based on performance - the top of the tree being a superbike Here are a few reasons why "big bike" doesn't work for me You can have a 250cc Honda that outperforms a 1300cc Harley both in acceleration and top end You can have a 250cc Honda that outperforms a 650cc Honda steed You can have a 900cc Honda that is considerably quicker than 1300cc yamaha 1100cc Honda (considered a "superbike" topping 320kmph) that outperforms a 1800cc Harley the latter not being classed as a superbike or anything like it You could go on with this forever but you get the picture "big bike" for me is a relative term "superbike" well that's a whole different ball game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchbike Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 mayby this is a way to upgrade to the BIG bike category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipYipYa123 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think the answer is very individual, if you've been riding a 100-125cc bike then a 250cc could be big to you, likewise 400cc looking at a 650cc upwards, but in saying that I think you're asking the wrong question, I classify bikes based on performance - the top of the tree being a superbike Here are a few reasons why "big bike" doesn't work for me You can have a 250cc Honda that outperforms a 1300cc Harley both in acceleration and top end You can have a 250cc Honda that outperforms a 650cc Honda steed You can have a 900cc Honda that is considerably quicker than 1300cc yamaha 1100cc Honda (considered a "superbike" topping 320kmph) that outperforms a 1800cc Harley the latter not being classed as a superbike or anything like it You could go on with this forever but you get the picture "big bike" for me is a relative term "superbike" well that's a whole different ball game +1 you can measure it too many ways to come to any accurate conclusion a dirtbike like a klx 250 or a crf250 is a "big bike " for any shortish person although it has almost no power the ducatti diavel has a low seat which means even a small person might be able to ride it more easily than a klx even though at a well tuned 1200cc a diavel has about 5 times the power to weight ratio my friend recently traded a tiger explorer 1200 for a diavel because hes a short guy and for him the diavel is a perfect balance for his leg size etc but the tiger was just too high and he ended up dropping it a couple of times because its harder to get leverage over a tall bike if you have short legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Completely arbitrary. Personally I feel it's 400cc. When I had my NSR150, it was referred to as a "big bike" by Thai's. Back in the states a bike must be 250cc or larger to be driven on the highways. Depends entirely on the state. Some even regulate wheel size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think a good answer would be the number of CC for a bike to be allowed on Thai highway. How much is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think a good answer would be the number of CC for a bike to be allowed on Thai highway. How much is it? I don't believe there is a capacity limit, but I have both an SR400 and a GSXR1000. only one of them do I consider to be a "big" bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) The vehicle limitation on highways is the speed limit, a vehicle must be able to achieve this limit safely, other vehicles are excluded from motorways not just small engined motorbikes As large capacity motorbikes are now commonplace in Thailand the law needs revised Edited February 13, 2013 by smedly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The vehicle limitation on highways is the speed limit, a vehicle must be able to achieve this limit safely, other vehicles are excluded from motorways not just small engined motorbikes As large capacity motorbikes are now commonplace in Thailand the law needs revised so a 250 CC is ok on a highway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) A good rider makes any bike big bike apart from the funny regulations. And i think, it is all about being a good bike or bad bike for you and for your needs. Edited February 13, 2013 by loserlazer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whosthat Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 hi im trying to get some information about these moto meters which are supposed to begin use in bangkok soon would anyone with information please contact me regarding information have you heard of them? are they being used now? will they be useful in bangkok? thanks whosthat im a member here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The vehicle limitation on highways is the speed limit, a vehicle must be able to achieve this limit safely, other vehicles are excluded from motorways not just small engined motorbikesAs large capacity motorbikes are now commonplace in Thailand the law needs revised The law that motorcycle are only allowed to travel in the first lane/ slow lane, should be fixed for bigger bike at can safely travel at speeds that most car can. I was pulled over once and was told that I am allowed 3 lanes then later the same day I was pulled over again and was told I am only allowed to travel in the first lane. Vans, taxis, and bus park in the first and second lane. And even sometimes in the third lane, making it almost impossible to safely ride in the first lane. There should be different laws for scooters, motorcycles, and big bikes on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieandmash Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I was told by Somchai that I had to pay double to park my CRM250 in a car park off Walking St as it's a big bike. I parked it on the road for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I was told by Somchai that I had to pay double to park my CRM250 in a car park off Walking St as it's a big bike. I parked it on the road for nothing. that has been the case for a long time so dont be offended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The vehicle limitation on highways is the speed limit, a vehicle must be able to achieve this limit safely, other vehicles are excluded from motorways not just small engined motorbikesAs large capacity motorbikes are now commonplace in Thailand the law needs revised The law that motorcycle are only allowed to travel in the first lane/ slow lane, should be fixed for bigger bike at can safely travel at speeds that most car can. I was pulled over once and was told that I am allowed 3 lanes then later the same day I was pulled over again and was told I am only allowed to travel in the first lane. Vans, taxis, and bus park in the first and second lane. And even sometimes in the third lane, making it almost impossible to safely ride in the first lane. There should be different laws for scooters, motorcycles, and big bikes on the road. all vehicles should drive on the left unless overtaking (same as in the UK) even motorbikes, I've never been ticketed once in 7 years and 80.000km for overtaking on the right - that means I'm going faster than trafic on the left no matter what it is, I was stopped once for said perceived offence while overtaking a line of lorries on the right - the cop just gave up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 The vehicle limitation on highways is the speed limit, a vehicle must be able to achieve this limit safely, other vehicles are excluded from motorways not just small engined motorbikesAs large capacity motorbikes are now commonplace in Thailand the law needs revised The law that motorcycle are only allowed to travel in the first lane/ slow lane, should be fixed for bigger bike at can safely travel at speeds that most car can. I was pulled over once and was told that I am allowed 3 lanes then later the same day I was pulled over again and was told I am only allowed to travel in the first lane. Vans, taxis, and bus park in the first and second lane. And even sometimes in the third lane, making it almost impossible to safely ride in the first lane. There should be different laws for scooters, motorcycles, and big bikes on the road. all vehicles should drive on the left unless overtaking (same as in the UK) even motorbikes, I've never been ticketed once in 7 years and 80.000km for overtaking on the right - that means I'm going faster than trafic on the left no matter what it is, I was stopped once for said perceived offence while overtaking a line of lorries on the right - the cop just gave up When ever I am riding anywhere I am usually over taking everyone. And when the splits off for a bridge, I am alway driving in the 4th lane and cutting into the 5th lane splitting. I don't really drive on the right side of the 5th lane or second lane once on the bridge unless if I'm over taking a scooter that it also lane spitting. The only time I'm ever stopped is when there is a check point and then I just drive in the left lane getting ready to be pulled aside if the police decides to. I've never had to pay on my motorcycle but the car is a different story. There was one time that I was splitting lanes between the 2nd and 3rd lane. There was a random check point or just to cops on the side of the road trying to pull people over. The traffic pace was to fast when one if the cops tried to flag me down and almost ran in front of another car and I didn't have a safe place to pull over safely to I just continues riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamhar Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I think as soon as the little trainer wheels come off it is called a Big Bike Trainers on a V-Rod. That is just SO WRONG!!! But very funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Completely arbitrary. Personally I feel it's 400cc. When I had my NSR150, it was referred to as a "big bike" by Thai's. Back in the states a bike must be 250cc or larger to be driven on the highways. Depends entirely on the state. Some even regulate wheel size. It's the land of the free Edited February 14, 2013 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) If Honda 500 is available in "normal" Honda dealers then anything over 500 is "big". If not then anything over 300 is big. Edited February 14, 2013 by VocalNeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_boo Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Think most westerners would consider 250 and below to be starter bikes. From above 250 to the less powerful 600/650 would be middle sized bikes. The supersport 600 and greater are big bikes. But that's for road bikes. What of dual sport/off road bikes? I would propose that 400+ for those are big bikes. As been stated time and again; which country are you speaking of? The more affluent, and dare we say sensible (that's a freebie for you jonny) in their tax laws countries it is a smarter decision to start off on a 'bigger' bike than the 'poorer' countries. Were most people can afford 100-125cc bikes and no more, anything bigger is a luxury and thus deserves the 'big' title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpanda Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 If Honda 500 is available in "normal" Honda dealers then anything over 500 is "big". If not then anything over 300 is big. The CBR 500 is only going to be available from Honda BigWing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I guess this is a small.bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) Bike clubs typically set a lower limit of 650cc, so i guess that is consensus Edited February 14, 2013 by poanoi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macknife Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This is a really big bike. the last bike you will ever own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Stupid thread, or am I just stupid for reading it and replying? IMHO thought in terms of weight, over 400-450 pounds is a big bike. Over 650 lbs, hog.... Harley riders were shaken after riding my tuned 500 2 stroke dirt bike, a 225 lb bike, which was all crazy peaky power band (I still dream about that bike). And, at the same time, I was nervous riding their Softtail/sportster/FatBoy because of the weight. Best definition I heard in Thailand: if your Thai mother in law can't pick the fallen bike up, than it's a big bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 IMHO thought in terms of weight, over 400-450 pounds is a big bike. Over 650 lbs, hog.... Harley riders were shaken after riding my tuned 500 2 stroke dirt bike, a 225 lb bike, which was all crazy peaky power band (I still dream about that bike). And, at the same time, I was nervous riding their Softtail/sportster/FatBoy because of the weight. Best definition I heard in Thailand: if your Thai mother in law can't pick the fallen bike up, than it's a big bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 IMHO thought in terms of weight, over 400-450 pounds is a big bike. Over 650 lbs, hog.... Harley riders were shaken after riding my tuned 500 2 stroke dirt bike, a 225 lb bike, which was all crazy peaky power band (I still dream about that bike). And, at the same time, I was nervous riding their Softtail/sportster/FatBoy because of the weight. Best definition I heard in Thailand: if your Thai mother in law can't pick the fallen bike up, than it's a big bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 IMHO thought in terms of weight, over 400-450 pounds is a big bike. Over 650 lbs, hog.... Harley riders were shaken after riding my tuned 500 2 stroke dirt bike, a 225 lb bike, which was all crazy peaky power band (I still dream about that bike). And, at the same time, I was nervous riding their Softtail/sportster/FatBoy because of the weight. Best definition I heard in Thailand: if your Thai mother in law can't pick the fallen bike up, than it's a big bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 IMHO thought in terms of weight, over 400-450 pounds is a big bike. Over 650 lbs, hog.... Harley riders were shaken after riding my tuned 500 2 stroke dirt bike, a 225 lb bike, which was all crazy peaky power band (I still dream about that bike). And, at the same time, I was nervous riding their Softtail/sportster/FatBoy because of the weight. Best definition I heard in Thailand: if your Thai mother in law can't pick the fallen bike up, than it's a big bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishenough Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 IMHO thought in terms of weight, over 400-450 pounds is a big bike. Over 650 lbs, hog.... Harley riders were shaken after riding my tuned 500 2 stroke dirt bike, a 225 lb bike, which was all crazy peaky power band (I still dream about that bike). And, at the same time, I was nervous riding their Softtail/sportster/FatBoy because of the weight. Best definition I heard in Thailand: if your Thai mother in law can't pick the fallen bike up, than it's a big bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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