Rule Of Law And Democracy Suffered Setbacks After Thaksin's Ouster, Yingluck Says

[webfact]

PM slams agencies for abusing power
The Nation


Yingluck

Rule of law and democracy suffered setbacks after Thaksin's ouster, Yingluck says in Mongolia

BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra yesterday heated up the ongoing confrontation between the government - backed by its MPs and supporters - and the Constitutional Court. In an unprecedented action, she assailed independent agencies, accusing them of abusing their power.

The PM has never publicly made such strong remarks against coup leaders or independent agencies.

Yingluck said Thailand headed downwards after her brother, ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra, was overthrown in a military coup in September 2006.

"Thailand lost track and the people spent almost a decade regaining their democratic freedom," she said in her speech at the 7th Ministerial Conference of the Community of Democracies in Ulan Bator, Mongolia.

The prime minister said she had raised the matter for the benefit of the country, and not just her family.

"Many who don't know me say, 'Why complain?' It is a normal process that governments come and go. And if my family and I were the only ones suffering, I might just let it be. But it is not," Yingluck said.

"Thailand suffered a setback and lost international credibility. Rule of law in the country was destroyed. Projects and programmes started by my brother's government that came from the people's wishes were removed. The people felt their rights and liberties were wrongly taken away," she said. Yingluck also said that despite her political party's election victory in 2011, "it is clear that elements of the anti-democratic regime still exist. The new Constitution, drafted under the post-coup government, put in mechanisms to restrict democracy."

She pointed her finger at independent agencies. "The so-called independent agencies have abused the power that should belong to the people, for the benefit of the few rather than for Thai society at large," she said.

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday said Yingluck should clarify her roles as Thaksin's sister and Thailand's prime minister.

"She should clearly distinguish her roles as a sister and the prime minister. She may feel sorry for her brother being overthrown from power, but that's a personal matter. It is also not right to defend her brother, who is a fugitive wanted by the Thai authorities," said Democrat Party chief Abhisit.

He said Yingluck omitted the fact that Thaksin violated the law and she failed to mention the good points of the post-coup 2007 Constitution. He added that the PM also tried to mislead people about problems in Thailand, including the provocation by protesters rallying in front of the Constitutional Court office that were spreading inaccurate information.

Meanwhile, tension rose at the Constitutional Court yesterday as a group of demonstrators appeared in support of the court's judges, in opposition to a red-shirt group that has been rallying for nine consecutive days demanding the judges resign.

About 100 members of the Motherland Protection Organisation and Network came to the Constitutional Court to provide moral support to the nine judges.

The demonstrations were led by Wirat Ratanachart and Wanthongchai Chamnarnkit.

The group arrived at the court from the back of the Ratchaburi Direkrit Building, which is the office of the Constitutional Court inside the Government Complex, to avoid conflict with the red-shirt group protesting against the court in front of the complex. Wirat read from the statement that his group wanted to encourage the nine judges to continue working to defend justice so the community could bank on them.

The Pro-Democracy People's Radio Group, on the other hand, insisted the nine judges must resign immediately. The group, led by Pongpisit Kongsena, has been camping in front of Government Complex for nine days after the court agreed to review the constitutionality of the bill to amend Article 68. The amendment would prohibit the Constitutional Court from receiving petitions from the public directly, requiring petitions to be channelled through the attorney-general.

Pongpisit said the protest would continue until the nine judges resigned. He said his group would today campaign for Thais to wear black shirts with the words "shameful judges" printed on them.

In a related development, Pol Maj-General Sangiam Samranrat, an official attached to the PM's Office, filed a complaint with the Crime Suppression Division, alleging the nine judges were causing a public disturbance.

Former senator Ruangkrai Leekijwatana alleged that the current Constitutional Court president, Wasant Sroypisuth, should be disqualified as chief of the court as the Constitutional Court judges have never been endorsed by HM the King.

-- The Nation 2013-04-30

[ZhouZhou]

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday said Yingluck should clarify her roles as Thaksin's sister and Thailand's prime minister.

"She should clearly distinguish her roles as a sister and the prime minister. She may feel sorry for her brother being overthrown from power, but that's a personal matter.

I think that is also a political matter.

I think that she also made clear that if she feels sorry for someone then it are the people who voted for her brothers government.

[whybother]

Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday said Yingluck should clarify her roles as Thaksin's sister and Thailand's prime minister.

"She should clearly distinguish her roles as a sister and the prime minister. She may feel sorry for her brother being overthrown from power, but that's a personal matter.

I think that is also a political matter.

I think that she also made clear that if she feels sorry for someone then it are the people who voted for her brothers government.

Yes, she should feel sorry for them. They were paid and didn't get their money's worth.

[Thai at Heart]

I think "TIT" says it all.

[hellodolly]

I suppose trying to burn Bangkok down is adhering to rules of law.

How did her family get hurt. Is she talking about the embarrassment of having a wanted criminal as part of the family?

If they were to show a rear view picture of her it would show a sign saying kick me.

[Pimay1]

In a related development, Pol Maj-General Sangiam Samranrat, an official attached to the PM's Office, filed a complaint with the Crime Suppression Division, alleging the nine judges were causing a public disturbance.

This is one of the most idiotic statements I have heard from these buffoons. The judges are going on about their business as usual and the red minions have laid siege outside the court building. Of course that is not a public disturbance. Unbelievable nonsense.

[reiltin]

Curiouser and curiouser...Alice in Wonderland & Mad Hatters the lot of them.

[bigbamboo]

Sounds as if someone has told KY to move up a gear or two in her support for her ex PM brother. Maybe it was her sister, the wife of another family member ex PM. Whatever and whoever has spurred her on she still forgets or maybe doesn't know that democracy in Thailand was being setback before Thaksin's removal not after it.

[Om85]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

Edited April 30, 2013 by craigt3365
removed deleted posts.

[whybother]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

[Om85]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

As you whish, just to say that Abhisit and hes dems has not won an ellection in like 20 years?

[whybother]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

As you whish, just to say that Abhisit and hes dems has not won an ellection in like 20 years?

As I wish? Am I wrong?

[Om85]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

As you whish, just to say that Abhisit and hes dems has not won an ellection in like 20 years?

As I wish? Am I wrong?

Yes, you are, but I don't like to discuss facts speak from themselves

[whybother]

Yes, you are, but I don't like to discuss facts speak from themselves

Then point out those "facts" to me, please. Which coup leaders appointed Abhisit as PM? Edited April 30, 2013 by whybother

[MikeOboe57]

Yes, you are, but I don't like to discuss facts speak from themselves

Then point out those "facts" to me, please. Which coup leaders appointed Abhisit as PM?

You are trying to nail a pudding to the wall.

[Om85]

Yes, you are, but I don't like to discuss facts speak from themselves

Then point out those "facts" to me, please. Which coup leaders appointed Abhisit as PM?

As ur user name says: whybother, pal?

[craigt3365]

A post along with an associated reply has been removed from view as it contained information that is non factual. Please stick to the facts.

[jbrain]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

Not difficult to be popular when giving away free money to the poor and uneducated.

What these people however don't realise is that it isn't Thaksin's or his sisters money, but that at the end of the day they pay the piper themselves.

[Om85]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

Not difficult to be popular when giving away free money to the poor and uneducated.

What these people however don't realise is that it isn't Thaksin's or his sisters money, but that at the end of the day they pay the piper themselves.

Very naive fo your part to think that he is popular only because he gave economical help to the poor and uneducated, I know many Thaksin supporters and many of them are very rich and western educated, they supported Thaksin because for them Thaksin represents change and progress( I am not sure if what they think is right though). Old and fat farangs in this forum should stop being condescendend toward Thai people, and let them be, I am sure they know what is best for them.

[jbrain]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

Not difficult to be popular when giving away free money to the poor and uneducated.

What these people however don't realise is that it isn't Thaksin's or his sisters money, but that at the end of the day they pay the piper themselves.

Very naive fo your part to think that he is popular only because he gave economical help to the poor and uneducated, I know many Thaksin supporters and many of them are very rich and western educated, they supported Thaksin because for them Thaksin represents change and progress( I am not sure if what they think is right though). Old and fat farangs in this forum should stop being condescendend toward Thai people, and let them be, I am sure they know what is best for them.

They are not his supporters. They are his cronies, same same but different.

[Om85]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

Not difficult to be popular when giving away free money to the poor and uneducated.

What these people however don't realise is that it isn't Thaksin's or his sisters money, but that at the end of the day they pay the piper themselves.

Very naive fo your part to think that he is popular only because he gave economical help to the poor and uneducated, I know many Thaksin supporters and many of them are very rich and western educated, they supported Thaksin because for them Thaksin represents change and progress( I am not sure if what they think is right though). Old and fat farangs in this forum should stop being condescendend toward Thai people, and let them be, I am sure they know what is best for them.

They are not his supporters. They are his cronies, same same but different.

Trolling around once more?

[Pimay1]

Old and fat farangs in this forum should stop being condescendend toward Thai people

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

[jbrain]

Very naive fo your part to think that he is popular only because he gave economical help to the poor and uneducated, I know many Thaksin supporters and many of them are very rich and western educated, they supported Thaksin because for them Thaksin represents change and progress( I am not sure if what they think is right though). Old and fat farangs in this forum should stop being condescendend toward Thai people, and let them be, I am sure they know what is best for them.

They are not his supporters. They are his cronies, same same but different.

Trolling around once more?

Look who's talking

[OzMick]

"Thailand lost track and the people spent almost a decade regaining their democratic freedom,"

Still 3 years to go, hopefully somebody will remove the Shinawatras in that time.

[Nickymaster]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

As you whish, just to say that Abhisit and hes dems has not won an ellection in like 20 years?

Then it's clear who is to blame for the mess Thailand is in today.

Right, not the dems because they haven't won an ellection in 20 years.....

[Nickymaster]

Is YS going into exile? I thought that leaving Thailand and start criticizing it was a thing only the fugitive on the run does. YS is becoming a coward too it seems. One way communication from a safe place far away from Thailand….pfff…

The Shins (including YS) are now going for broke. Hold tight Thailand, a big storm is approaching. The game has changed the last few weeks. Pressure is mounting on the Shins. Dozens of pawns are in jail and/or on the run.

Pressure!!!!

Edited April 30, 2013 by Nickymaster

[Om85]

In Thailand there is a strong support for Thaksin, that's one of the reasons he was overthrew from power, somehow he was getting too popular unlike Aphisit who was putted into power buy the coup leaders.

Disclaimer: I am not a supporter of Thaksin, or any other politician.

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

As you whish, just to say that Abhisit and hes dems has not won an ellection in like 20 years?

Then it's clear who is to blame for the mess Thailand is in today.

Right, not the dems because they haven't won an ellection in 20 years.....

No, is not clear at all, Thailand is a ppolitically very unestable country, here governments change very fast.

[OzMick]

Mongolia seems a strange place for our PM to suddenly discover politics. Maybe because of Mongolia's central position on the world stage, and its reputation of having a free press reknown for its investigative journalism. I'm sure her statements will echo around the world, if very faintly, and cause a fair amount of amusement in those familiar with Thai politics.

Who knows, after the recess she might even start attending parliament, even answer a question or two.

[OzMick]

"I am not a supporter of Thaksin but ... "

Which coup leaders put Abhisit in power?

I think you will find that a majority of elected MPs put Abhisit in power.

As you whish, just to say that Abhisit and hes dems has not won an ellection in like 20 years?

Then it's clear who is to blame for the mess Thailand is in today.

Right, not the dems because they haven't won an ellection in 20 years.....

No, is not clear at all, Thailand is a ppolitically very unestable country, here governments change very fast.

The sooner the better.

[NomadJoe]

Rule of law? Thaksin authorized 100's of extra-judicial executions during is reign.