Elephant's Tusks Cut After Fatal Tourist Attack: Ayutthaya

[oldsailor35]

<deleted>, they're practicing sharia law for elephants now?

Wake up man. This is Thailand, a completely different culture from yours, so please try to understand and and respect it.do not be sarcastic with the culture because you are ignorant of it. This has nothing to do with Sharia Law, Thailand is a Buddhist Nation.

[oldsailor35]

So if the tusks had been 20 cm shorter at the time of the attack, the victim would have survived??

Again it has been proven, that those beautiful and intelligent animals, should not be kept in captivity for our entertainment !

did you read the whole article ,, if you did ,you will find it has nothing to do with that they do that to " free the spirit of the victim "

So comforting to know that the people in charge of these multi-ton animals with huge tusks believe in this mumbo-jumbo.

Yet another person who cannot accept or at least try to respect and understand another's culture. Ignorance reigns supreme !

[oldsailor35]

Where where the tourist from?

It did say "A Saraburi couple" so i presume they were Thai.

[rubberduck]

The disturbing and brutal reality that breeds these 'must see' elephant attractions is not widely known by tourists or Thais. The fact is that mahouts and elephant trainers use what is known as the 'torture training method' to make these wild creatures obedient and tourist friendly. This method involves tying or chaining the elephant up in a confined pen that is too small for the animal to move. True to its name, the elephant is then tortured constantly with beatings, often involving sharp instruments, and left without food or water for days or even weeks. This is designed to break the animal's spirit which it certainly achieves, often taking its sanity too. Used for centuries to domesticate wild elephants, the torture training method is still accepted as the only viable training method for elephant handlers and is used in almost every elephant attraction in Thailand.

The agonising blows that expose the evil secrets of Thailand's

elephant tourism con: The Duchess of Cornwall's brother tells how baby

elephants are brutally starved and tortured

full article here

Edited May 28, 2013 by Rimmer
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[MrVain]

Blablabla if all say this eliphant has a problem I'm here to day no, it's always the human...

[metisdead]

An off topic post in all caps has been removed.

[Joe Mamma]

A good friend was at the Elephant show and witnessed a large German woman teasing one of the elephants with bananas.

She was warned by all the bystanders to stop, but she persisted until the agitated elephant knocked her to the ground with it's trunk and did a head stand on her, crushing her instantly. He felt bad for all involved.

[Dap]

So if the tusks had been 20 cm shorter at the time of the attack, the victim would have survived??

Again it has been proven, that those beautiful and intelligent animals, should not be kept in captivity for our entertainment !

"Time and time again."

[skippybangkok]

Plai Ngam would be chained in a corral indefinitely.

Or until everyone has forgotten about it. Why would they opt to feed a massively hungry elephant for the rest of its very long life ? If true, should repatriate to the wild

[RogueLeader]

<deleted>, they're practicing sharia law for elephants now?

Wake up man. This is Thailand, a completely different culture from yours, so please try to understand and and respect it.do not be sarcastic with the culture because you are ignorant of it. This has nothing to do with Sharia Law, Thailand is a Buddhist Nation.

You don't have to defend ignorance, barbarism and superstition just because the people who practice it speak a different language.

[skippybangkok]

The Duchess of Cornwall's brother tells how baby

elephants are brutally starved and tortured brutally-starved-tortured

Maybe she should fix fox hunting first, and then comment on Thailand

[a99az]

Barr

[seminomadic]

<deleted>, they're practicing sharia law for elephants now?

Wake up man. This is Thailand, a completely different culture from yours, so please try to understand and and respect it.do not be sarcastic with the culture because you are ignorant of it. This has nothing to do with Sharia Law, Thailand is a Buddhist Nation.

Wow do you need to lighten up

[RogueLeader]

The Duchess of Cornwall's brother tells how baby

elephants are brutally starved and tortured brutally-starved-tortured

Maybe she should fix fox hunting first, and then comment on Thailand

Fox hunting is illegal in Britain.

[tropo]

I doubt that the elephant attacked the couple for no reason, an elephant is not a pet and it could kill you with or without his tusks.

What were the couple doing in its den unsupervised anyway?

These elephants ARE pets.

[khaowong1]

<deleted>, they're practicing sharia law for elephants now?

Wake up man. This is Thailand, a completely different culture from yours, so please try to understand and and respect it.do not be sarcastic with the culture because you are ignorant of it. This has nothing to do with Sharia Law, Thailand is a Buddhist Nation.

A Buddhist nation that practises animism (?) and spirit worship and other things that has nothing to do with Buddhism..

[darren84310]

Laithongrien said the rite was to free the slain person's spirit that remained with the elephant after it had killed someone.

Releasing the spirit would teach the beast a lesson about what itshouldn't do because elephants are large mammals with the ability to
think, he said. After the rite, Plai Ngam would be chained in a corralindefinitely.

We are supposed to be an intelligent race.... When are people going to stop believing in Mumbo Jumbo like this.... and that goes for all religions as well.

[Thai at Heart]

So we cut 20cm from the tusks & the elephant will know that the spirit of the deceased is 'released' & then lock the animal up.

Translation: We'll pretend to do something so we can carry on using these wonderful animals to make money.

Just sickening.

I expect that the elephant will probably be pissed of at losing its tusks and hopefully attack the mahout for coming up with such a stupid idea to handle an elephant.

[rigfishing]

AN ELEPHANT IS A WILD ANIMAL.

The above is the most important thing to remember. Not releasing a spirit!!!!!!

The keepers should be kept captive, see how they enjoy that fate.

How cruel and senseless to treat an animal in such a way.

Education is a wonderful thing. Please help to educate the un-educated.

Thanks

[klauskunkel]

So if the tusks had been 20 cm shorter at the time of the attack, the victim would have survived??

Again it has been proven, that those beautiful and intelligent animals, should not be kept in captivity for our entertainment !

did you read the whole article ,, if you did ,you will find it has nothing to do with that they do that to " free the spirit of the victim "

...and the spirit of the victim is about 20cm long...

[tropo]

AN ELEPHANT IS A WILD ANIMAL.

The above is the most important thing to remember. Not releasing a spirit!!!!!!

The keepers should be kept captive, see how they enjoy that fate.

How cruel and senseless to treat an animal in such a way.

Education is a wonderful thing. Please help to educate the un-educated.

Thanks

I think the size of an elephant has got you a little confused. An elephant is not a wild animal if it has been raised, or born in captivity.

Even domesticated dogs kill people from time to time. Shit happens.

Here's a long list of people who were killed by domestic dogs in the US over the years - lots of kids and babies too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States#Fatalities_reported_in_2012

Yet you're never going to see people give up their family pets.

Instead of getting all dramatic every time a person is killed by an elephant, you should consider that accidents do happen. You still fly in aircraft, right? You still drive?

Tourists want to see and interact with elephants when they visit Thailand. Tourists really enjoy and appreciate getting closeup and personal with these magnificent animals and most times the elephants enjoy the interaction too. They've been domesticated for thousands of years. They're not as wild you think they are.

Now African elephants, that's another story....

Edited May 27, 2013 by tropo

[theajarn]

My eldest boy once called me from there and told me he was going to visit a zoo. From that point on my side of the conversation focused on telling him "DO NOT GO NEAR THE ELEPHANTS" ... he asked why and I told him why -- colourful stories included.

He understands.

How many tourists who keep coming here don't?

[louse1953]

N

So if the tusks had been 20 cm shorter at the time of the attack, the victim would have survived??

Again it has been proven, that those beautiful and intelligent animals, should not be kept in captivity for our entertainment !

did you read the whole article ,, if you did ,you will find it has nothing to do with that they do that to " free the spirit of the victim "

So comforting to know that the people in charge of these multi-ton animals with huge tusks believe in this mumbo-jumbo.

Yet another person who cannot accept or at least try to respect and understand another's culture.

Edited May 27, 2013 by louse1953

[louse1953]

Mumbo jumbo has no place in this scientific world.Lack of education is the problem,chaining an animal up to "teach"it a lesson is just wrong

[noitom]

This is a conspiracy to sidestep the elephant ivory trade ban which is bogus anyway. Where is Leonardo DiCaprio? Anyone notice that the elephant keeper stated that he was speculating about what the elephant was "thinking." Also noteworthy was the comment about Thai mahout "supervision." An oxymoron if there ever was one.

[juggernaut]

Like it's really the elephant's fault he spends his life in captivity and during the trauma of it all does something which is probably just instinct. Yeah bad elephant, we got to punish you mate, you've been a very naughty boy.......stupid humans

[Payboy]

<deleted>, they're practicing sharia law for elephants now?

Wake up man. This is Thailand, a completely different culture from yours, so please try to understand and and respect it.do not be sarcastic with the culture because you are ignorant of it. This has nothing to do with Sharia Law, Thailand is a Buddhist Nation.

Oh please! Spare me the holier-than-thou sermons. Those are my thoughts, thought out loud. Feel free to tune out anytime.

[DocN]

So if the tusks had been 20 cm shorter at the time of the attack, the victim would have survived??

Again it has been proven, that those beautiful and intelligent animals, should not be kept in captivity for our entertainment !

did you read the whole article ,, if you did ,you will find it has nothing to do with that they do that to " free the spirit of the victim "

So comforting to know that the people in charge of these multi-ton animals with huge tusks believe in this mumbo-jumbo.

Yet another person who cannot accept or at least try to respect and understand another's culture. Ignorance reigns supreme !

You are aware that a human died, aren't you?

Talking about ignorance that reigns supreme!

Edited May 28, 2013 by DocN

[DoctorG]

<deleted>, they're practicing sharia law for elephants now?

Wake up man. This is Thailand, a completely different culture from yours, so please try to understand and and respect it.do not be sarcastic with the culture because you are ignorant of it. This has nothing to do with Sharia Law, Thailand is a Buddhist Nation.

I thought Payboy's jest rather amusing actually

[drl02]

Who determines that 20% of an elephant's tusks equals a person's spirit release? What is an elephant den? Was the mahout taking a nap? Will indefinitely mean the next 60 years or until the next time the elephant is needed to entertain? At least the park owner apologized.