Maintenance charge for CBR 250

[engrin]

I think my CCT may be having problems as well as I have cold engine squeaking sounds (I bought a cbr250r with around 9,000 km). Does anyone have the part number so that I can order it from Honda? Also, does the oil need to be drained to change the CCT? thanks!

[dictater]

Hey Im the OP for this thread and replaced my CCT already. I dont have the part number but your local honda dealer will have a manual with both English and Thai (or at least mine did) so you can locate the part on the diagram and just point it out to him. The cost was 680 baht and I would imagine they would install for free since it only takes five minutes and involves two bolts. You don't need to change the oil or anything else, Just makes sure the little plastic tab that keeps the plunger or piston on the CCT retracted stays in place until installed, then you pull that out which puts the correct amount of pressure on the chain and the final bolt goes into the threads that cover that retraction screw. Dont worry if that doesnt make sense right now, it will when you see the CCT.

[engrin]

Thanks for the reply! Found the catalogue online. I believe this is the number 14510-KYJ-900 TENSIONER COMP., CAM CHAIN

Part labelled "2" in the diagram.

[KRS1]

in Thai the part is called "done sew" (like in sewing machine, phonetically)

[Salapoo]

I had part 4 go on me before after around 20k km.

And again after around 50k.

[dictater]

The cct is part #4 in that picture, its an exterior part, 11,8,9 are all part of the cct. Salapo do you mean that you've been through 4 CCT's ? Any one try an APE CCT on this bike?

[KRS1]

Hey Im the OP for this thread and replaced my CCT already. I dont have the part number but your local honda dealer will have a manual with both English and Thai (or at least mine did) so you can locate the part on the diagram and just point it out to him. The cost was 680 baht and I would imagine they would install for free since it only takes five minutes and involves two bolts. You don't need to change the oil or anything else, Just makes sure the little plastic tab that keeps the plunger or piston on the CCT retracted stays in place until installed, then you pull that out which puts the correct amount of pressure on the chain and the final bolt goes into the threads that cover that retraction screw. Dont worry if that doesnt make sense right now, it will when you see the CCT.

after taking the old one out, did it look possible to adjust the CCT in anyway? Did the plunger/piston screw appear to be loosened?

i pulled one out of my old 150 and someone had mounted a bolt and nuts in place of the plunger, and it worked.

Edited July 29, 2013 by KRS1

[KRS1]

double post

Edited July 29, 2013 by KRS1

[engrin]

Here is a better screenshot

Part 4 is 14520-KYJ-901 LIFTER ASSY., TENSIONER

[Salapoo]

The cct is part #4 in that picture, its an exterior part, 11,8,9 are all part of the cct. Salapo do you mean that you've been through 4 CCT's ?

No, two.

First one at around 20k, and the next around 50k.

[engrin]

Just to clarify, it's part number 4? thanks!!

Edited July 29, 2013 by engrin

[karlos]

Okay, just to put a cap on this thread. Got the CCT as I wrote earlier took KRS1's advice about not having to bother with the cam positions and just changed it out. 5 minutes later started the bike and no more engine noise. Two things though I don't see any problem with the original CCT, pressure from the spring seems fine, its not seized so I don't know what the problem with it is. The replacement CCT seems a bit cheaper, its lighter and just a wee bit smaller, just wondering how long this one will last. Thanks to everyone who chipped in, and of course now I and all of you know Honda shops in Kan are good for oil and tire changes (maybe).

Could it have been that the cam chain tensioner was in-between a 'tooth / click'

It's well known that CCTs get a little loud and clunky when they are about to roll over to the next tooth.

[Salapoo]

Seems like a common enough part fault, not just a once off.

The first time mine went I recall the dealer saying it was something like an o-ring or seal inside it that went and jammed it up. Something along those lines. Some 680b so hardly a big deal.

The last time it happened I didn't bother getting the details.

[dictater]

that's correct #4, I have read about people rigging the OEM ones to work but it seems like it me be worth getting an ape CCT if there is one, then again one every 20-30k is no big deal.

[KRS1]

dictater, before i pull mine out and replace it, can you mess around with your old one and see if it can be readjusted?

[dictater]

I already tossed out the old one, before I did though I retracted the plunger/ piston and let it wind back out a couple of times and really couldnt see any problem with it, It may be worth your while to pull it out, retract the plunger, spray it with some kind of sonex or WD, wipe it back down and re-install to see if it was just sticky. Just make sure you keep the plunger retracted as you bolt it back down. I had already bough the new one and so just installed it. Let us know.

[KRS1]

will do, and i'll report back.

[KRS1]

CCT fixed ! Link to it is here http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/657561-cbr-250-cct-cam-chain-tensioner-repair-step-by-step/

I made a new post so people with the same problem who want to try and fix it themselves can find it easily.

[sup3r1or]

No No no guys, it depends what kind of oil they put in. When I was on my 3000km service they offered my normal oil 150bht a liter and synthetic imported japanese oil for 650 a liter. Mine came out 650x3 + about 900 on my maintenance, filter change etc. So it sounds about right. If he did use normal oil then its a rip off for sure.

[Salapoo]

Did they charge for 3 liters of oil? (650x3)

With a filter change it is only supposed to be 1.7L or 1.4L with no filter change.... so I believe.

[engrin]

So I had the guys at Honda install a new CCT. The squeaking noise on cold start-up is quieter but faster. Did they install it wrong? Any suggestions as to where to go from here? thanks

[KRS1]

Remove the allen screw and insert a small flathead into the hole and turn it counterclockwise until you feel tension. That means the flathead is in, then turn it until you feel the CCT tightening up against the chain.

The CCT design sucks