Thaiquila Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 (edited) Anyone else noticed this? Even when the train is very crowded and there is nothing else to hold on to, there are often Thai people (young and old, makes no difference) who embrace the entire pole as if in foreplay. The poles are clearly designed for several people to hold onto to, but no, these enlightened characters want it all for themselves. I understand rapid transit is a relatively new phenom in Thailand, but maybe a Singapore style education program is needed for this. When I encounter this, I grab the pole anyway, which often involves touching the pole lover, sometimes even their hair or head, depending on height. Interestingly, when I do this, they almost never move or react either, but I have seldom witnessed anyone else violating their pole "ownership". I suggest others go ahead and touch the pole lovers. As I said, they don't seem to mind, and maybe some of them will get the message. Edited April 1, 2006 by Thaiquila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 I thought I was the only one bothered by this. It's just a differnt relationship to personal space and rights of others in the anonymous, public sphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumonster Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 when you grab the pole - make sure your armpit is positioned at the correct height to give them a serious waft - then sit back and laugh when it gets reported back here that there are threads on the thai language forums complaining about smelly farang armpits when they are travelling on the skytrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 I thought I was the only one bothered by this. It's just a differnt relationship to personal space and rights of others in the anonymous, public sphere. I have never noticed this much. However, just the other day on the BTS, I DID see a Thai guy lean against the pole so his back and head was covering a couple of feet of useful hand-holds. Then a Thai woman simply rammed her fingers between his back and the pole when she nearly fell, and he got off it rather quickly. Maybe she drew blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Why be annoyed, just force your way in!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 Why be annoyed, just force your way in!!! ...or out, especially at Siam in the rush hour when those waiting to board form an impenetrable semi-circle of bodies that you must push through to get off the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltannyc Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 I believe that hogging the handrails is not only a BKK issue, here in NYC people behaving the same way hugging the pole or leaning against it. Maybe theses people are preparing for a Go-Go competition only we don’t know it. I usually force may hand behind their back and adjust it every 5 seconds…usually they give up. My other pet hate is people blocking the exit, what is the situation in BKK ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Whenever someone blocks the door, cuts in front, hogs a pole, I just accidently step on their toes or heel. Try it. You'll feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBWilson Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Has anyone also noticed the near absence of anything to hold on to near the doors on the Subway (as compared to the Skytrain)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ding Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Taxi Meter dii maag maag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebear Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Anyone else noticed this?Even when the train is very crowded and there is nothing else to hold on to, there are often Thai people (young and old, makes no difference) who embrace the entire pole as if in foreplay. The poles are clearly designed for several people to hold onto to, but no, these enlightened characters want it all for themselves. I understand rapid transit is a relatively new phenom in Thailand, but maybe a Singapore style education program is needed for this. When I encounter this, I grab the pole anyway, which often involves touching the pole lover, sometimes even their hair or head, depending on height. Interestingly, when I do this, they almost never move or react either, but I have seldom witnessed anyone else violating their pole "ownership". I suggest others go ahead and touch the pole lovers. As I said, they don't seem to mind, and maybe some of them will get the message. A love for phalic symbols perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 This is one thing that drives me mad, its so selfish. I've forced my hand onto the pole before only for the person to continue to rest on my hand. Worse still i've had a lady come onto the skytrain and rest her back onto the pole when there were about 3 persons already holding onto it. The others moved their hands without so much as a mutter of complaint. Pussies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleyboy Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Easy solution. Just eat cabbage and beans before you go out, and dont shower. After a couple of farts you will find you have half a carriage to yourself and have a choice on where you want to sit Now obviously i have never done this,its just what my wife tells me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangene Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Many Thais consider these to be "leaning poles". BTS should add a few straps to the poles to make it very obvious that they are intended to be handheld but it probably wont happen. When I see an individual hogging a pole and I don't have anything to hold onto, I get my hand close to their head so they can see it which usually makes them nervous. Then as the car sways back and forth I let my hand and fingers whack them in the ear or neck or whatever. Usually works within one stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Yen Yen Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 My other pet hate is people blocking the exit, what is the situation in BKK ? Try leaving the Skytrain at Siam in the rush hour. When the doors open, I have sometimes been presented with a wall of people and have had to pick which one of them to push out of the way to get through. Once I just stood there, hands on hips blocking a lot of the door until one of the morons moved aside to let me off. Also, I now see they have improved the markings near the edge on the platforms at some stations so that it is clear where people getting off should go (in the middle of the doors), and people getting on (at the outside). I personally thought it was pretty ###### clear with the old markings, but I'm afraid Thailand is going the way of the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Win Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So we have had “Bush Bashing” and ……………….. etc. You know what bashing you have done, and now “Pole” Bashing………. What has Bangers become…The Hub of Bashing..? Just because I am a Pole-lak, I should be banned from girls hugging me……errrmm…Boys, please take the next “Pole” Really, in Japan they all hug each other and then complain about it. Me tink, tis a case of TiT. Hang on in there all of you, pole seeker…………… Me, easy, have a car… E-Hug to all Yours truly, Kan Win P.S. Do not try this whilst driving a car and taking a photo like I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 egads .... digging pretty deep to find things to whinge about aren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nevermind the pole hugging... how about the groups of passengers getting on the train before allowing passengers to exit first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylar Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nevermind the pole hugging... how about the groups of passengers getting on the train before allowing passengers to exit first? That's not a Thai thing. It happens in Melbourne and Sydney. No one bothers to line up at the bus stops, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donz Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Yeah happends in sydney all the time. So i do it too, if i get the pole its my pole. grrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nevermind the pole hugging... how about the groups of passengers getting on the train before allowing passengers to exit first? That's not a Thai thing. It happens in Melbourne and Sydney. No one bothers to line up at the bus stops, either. That's OK, nobody expects good manners from Ozzies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donz Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nevermind the pole hugging... how about the groups of passengers getting on the train before allowing passengers to exit first? That's not a Thai thing. It happens in Melbourne and Sydney. No one bothers to line up at the bus stops, either. That's OK, nobody expects good manners from Ozzies i dont like people grabbing onto my pole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Once I just stood there, hands on hips blocking a lot of the door until one of the morons moved aside to let me off. This, I would've liked to have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 What's really annoying is when people (falangs and Thais alike) think that pedestrians have the right of way on the road. And then they have the gaul to whine and shriek about it when they get dragged along under my car after venturing just a bit too close. Wussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Noodles Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 What's really annoying is when people (falangs and Thais alike) think that pedestrians have the right of way on the road. And then they have the gaul to whine and shriek about it when they get dragged along under my car after venturing just a bit too close. Wussies. Or on the flip side when motorcycles think they have the right of way on the pavement (side walk). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 What the heck is sidewalk (or shoulder for that matter)? As far as I'm concerned, the road ends where the buildings/homes/grass/road spikes begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losangels Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 No kidding, side walks are meant for motorcycles to park, drive, food venders and others to sell stuffs telephone/electric poles, telephone booths. It wasn't meant to be for walking, safely ofcourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Can we get 3 more pages crying about how things are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiquila Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 egads .... digging pretty deep to find things to whinge about aren't we? Don't know what a WHINGE is, but like I said, not a problem, the pole is for everyone, just grab it and enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion76 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 (edited) If I had a motorcycle I would use the sidewalk too. If you for example are on Sukhumvit Soi 6 and have to go to Sukhumvit Soi 8, turning right and taking the sidewalk is the only logical way to get there I always laugh when I'm on the back of a motorcycle taxi and he takes the sidewalk and some old angry falang shouts at the driver while none of Thais seem to mind Edited April 7, 2006 by Orion76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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