webfact Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 'Jealous' Saraburi Man Confessed To MurderSARABURI: -- A man told police he emptied 3 handgun magazines shooting at his victim in Saraburi province because the victim slept with his wife.The murder took place in front of a condominium in the town center. When police arrived at the scene, they found the body of Mr. Surapol Sukkasem, 38, a resident of Autthaya province, in the front seat of his car. He was said to be a son of a businessman in that province.Later, Mr. Chirawat Kuanliang, 37, a resident of Saraburi, surrendered himself to the police and said he shot Mr. Surapol to death because he had been sleeping with his wife.Mr. Chirawat told police he and his wife had 2 children together, and Mr. Surapol has been a good friend of his. However, he said, he found out that Mr. Surapol has been bringing his wife to sleep with him at that condominium, which enormously enraged him.According to Mr. Chirawat, as soon as he saw Mr. Surapol he raced to the car, opened the car door, and shot Mr. Surapol at point-blank range. He also sprayed bullets on the car windshields and the car doors. He reportedly spent 3 magazines of his handgun in the murder.The suspect told police he felt compelled to committing the crime out of "true man′s honor"."True man can be killed but he cannot be insulted," Mr. Chirawat told police, citing a well-known Thai proverb. Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNM01qUXlNamsxTXc9PQ==-- KHAOSOD English 2013-06-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaullyW Posted June 28, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well, this is one case where I can't say I would have been able to control myself to do any different. Sleep with any man's wife (esp knowingly), and you should essentially prepare for extraordinary violence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) 3 magazines it appears the guy was a perfectionist. "A True man can be killed but he cannot be insulted" I guess this is why life seems so cheap in Thailand, it is more respectful to kill someone than insult them and make them lose face. Edited June 29, 2013 by chooka 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 3 magazines it appears the guy was a perfectionist. "A True man can be killed but he cannot be insulted" I guess this is why life seems so cheap in Thailand, it is more respectful to kill someone than insult them and make them lose face. How very samurai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Unless he beat his wife, I don't see the issue here. Don't knowingly mess with a bloke's missus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chooka Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 Unless he beat his wife, I don't see the issue here. Don't knowingly mess with a bloke's missus. Actually the issue is Murder It is fairly clear in the story. It is actually illegal to kill someone that is the issue. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songhua Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I always thought that proverb translated to 'a real man would rather die than be insulted'. But is he talking about himself or justifying the death of the deceased? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DocN Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 "A True man can be killed but he cannot be insulted" What a tool! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookedondhamma Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Be honest. If you're going to invite someone else to come and dip into the somtam, then please, please let the cook know. Because a serving for two isn't meant for three ... someone could.get shot ... Edited June 29, 2013 by hookedondhamma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 If this was done for a "true man′s honor" than it's make all right to kill I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andre0720 Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) "Sleep with any man's wife (esp knowingly), and you should essentially prepare for extraordinary violence." Not from me. The Thai culture must have penetrated you... Edited June 29, 2013 by metisdead Unnecessary usage of bold font removed. Learn to use the quote function, as I have done for you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doremifasol Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 The wife made herself available so why shooting the man? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Soutpeel Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 I wonder if the gentleman committing this crime had a Mia Noi ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 "Sleep with any man's wife (esp knowingly), and you should essentially prepare for extraordinary violence." Not from me. The Thai culture must have penetrated you... Ah, yes. It is a uniquely Thai characteristic. You got me. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CWMcMurray Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 The wife made herself available so why shooting the man? Regardless, murder is not a reasonable response , but the above poster does make a good point... The man did not make any vows or promises to the husband... It seems that the one committing adultery in this case was the wife not the other man... So it seems that his anger may have been misplaced Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonarax Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Keep it in pants and you wont have this issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 "Sleep with any man's wife (esp knowingly), and you should essentially prepare for extraordinary violence." Not from me. The Thai culture must have penetrated you... Agree, just throw the worthless piece of female trash out the door, they deserve each other. If she is screwing around on you then she will probably screw around on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PoodMaiDai Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 The true man can now spend the rest of his days in the monkey house with all the other true men. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeO Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 3 magazines it appears the guy was a perfectionist. "A True man can be killed but he cannot be insulted" I guess this is why life seems so cheap in Thailand, it is more respectful to kill someone than insult them and make them lose face. Yes, that's a pretty sad indictment for Thailand, isn't it, but rather chilling to think how close to the truth you are...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borovik Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The wife made herself available so why shooting the man? Regardless, murder is not a reasonable response , but the above poster does make a good point... The man did not make any vows or promises to the husband... It seems that the one committing adultery in this case was the wife not the other man... So it seems that his anger may have been misplaced Sent from my iPhone using ThaiVisa app Khun McMurray Your handle suggest,that you are from Christian world?not Thai? We were given - milleniums ago - on 2 tablets,in 10 points - prescription for proper moral conduct. And there are 2 points about somebodys wife - out of 10 - 2 commandments,what do they say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Three clips guess the other guy must have had special budda amuletts to protect him (but not work) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RKASA Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 Worthless waste of your own life over what? A wife that cheats and man that pretended to be your friend. Nether is/was worth the price. A better man would have just walked away, head high knowing he was not the cheating low life they both are. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey4u Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 3 magazines to kill someone,a bit of overkill. Either a lousy shot or the dude in the car ended up as mince meat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 29, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) The woman may have been/still is his wife but she is/was not his property. If she cheated on him because he was a low life who mistreated her then he is a worthless piece of crud who couldn't face the fact his wife did the same. If she cheated on him even though he did the right thing by her then she is a dog of the female persuasion and he should have just walked away and kicked her onto the street, leaving those two to each other. Instead he kills his scummy friend and leaves his children with no father to help raise them. Of all his options this was the worst. He, like so many men the world over, let some stupid notion of "face" or "disrespect" over come logic. Yes I know emotion can overwhelm you and people act on the spur of the moment, but his moment allowed him time to pack three magazines as well as his gun. A man is dead, another in prison, two children have effectively lost their father and a woman no doubt has to go through life with the thought that her actions were partly responsible. All because of face. Stupid. Edited June 29, 2013 by Bluespunk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The wife made herself available so why shooting the man? Yes unlike all those matcho men here saying they would do the same I would look at myself that I could not even satisfy my wife. Also she is to blame not the guy she made herself available. I would not do a friends wife that is a difference but I have certainly done some guys wives even had one on the phone talking to him during sex. If you can't satisfy your wife or if she was in it for the money don't blame the guy blame yourself or the wive. I don't go looking for it but if it happens so what. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi41 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The woman may have been/still is his wife but she is/was not his property. If she cheated on him because he was a low life who mistreated her then he is a worthless piece of crud who couldn't face the fact his wife did the same. If she cheated on him even though he did the right thing by her then she is a dog of the female persuasion should have just walked away and kicked her onto the street, leaving those two to each other. Instead he kills his scummy friend and leaves his children with no father to help raise them. Of all his options this was the worst. He, like so many men the world over, let some stupid notion of "face" or "disrespect" over come logic. Yes I know emotion can overwhelm you and people act on the spur of the moment, but his moment allowed him time to pack three magazines as well as his gun. A man is dead, another in prison, two children have effectively lost their father and a woman no doubt has to go through life with the thought that her actions were partly responsible. All because of face. Stupid. "a woman no doubt has to go through life with the thought, that her actions were partly responsible" You have a lot to learn about Thai women! Next week she will be working in a massage shop near you, telling her farang customer "Thai man, no good" all whilst she is "flying his kite"! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 "Sleep with any man's wife (esp knowingly), and you should essentially prepare for extraordinary violence." Not from me. The Thai culture must have penetrated you... Ah, yes. It is a uniquely Thai characteristic. You got me. Cheers What is Thai about this? I've been shot at by a mad Englishman after the girlfriend he had belted came to my place for the night in rural Australia. It was a rifle, he missed and there was only one shot, however you get the point. The christians have two commandmants, or otherwise two bits of bloody good advice from someone that's supposed to know. Thou shalt not covet another man's wife. Thou shalt not kill. They cover this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The woman may have been/still is his wife but she is/was not his property. If she cheated on him because he was a low life who mistreated her then he is a worthless piece of crud who couldn't face the fact his wife did the same. If she cheated on him even though he did the right thing by her then she is a dog of the female persuasion should have just walked away and kicked her onto the street, leaving those two to each other. Instead he kills his scummy friend and leaves his children with no father to help raise them. Of all his options this was the worst. He, like so many men the world over, let some stupid notion of "face" or "disrespect" over come logic. Yes I know emotion can overwhelm you and people act on the spur of the moment, but his moment allowed him time to pack three magazines as well as his gun. A man is dead, another in prison, two children have effectively lost their father and a woman no doubt has to go through life with the thought that her actions were partly responsible. All because of face. Stupid. "a woman no doubt has to go through life with the thought, that her actions were partly responsible" You have a lot to learn about Thai women! Next week she will be working in a massage shop near you, telling her farang customer "Thai man, no good" all whilst she is "flying his kite"! Maybe she will, maybe not. I don't know all Thai women but I do know, through work and friends, that not all women are so inclined as you indicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1020 Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 "True man can be killed but he cannot be insulted," Mr. Chirawat told police, citing a well-known Thai proverb. Oh please, they even have proverbs about how delicate and immature their egos are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 The woman may have been/still is his wife but she is/was not his property. If she cheated on him because he was a low life who mistreated her then he is a worthless piece of crud who couldn't face the fact his wife did the same. If she cheated on him even though he did the right thing by her then she is a dog of the female persuasion and he should have just walked away and kicked her onto the street, leaving those two to each other. Instead he kills his scummy friend and leaves his children with no father to help raise them. Of all his options this was the worst. He, like so many men the world over, let some stupid notion of "face" or "disrespect" over come logic. Yes I know emotion can overwhelm you and people act on the spur of the moment, but his moment allowed him time to pack three magazines as well as his gun. A man is dead, another in prison, two children have effectively lost their father and a woman no doubt has to go through life with the thought that her actions were partly responsible. All because of face. Stupid.Yes, the thoughts of a rational man. I have not been in the situation, that I know of. I am unsure of how I would react. His response was bred into him, I hope he can afford bail. The children are the real victims here and probably forced to live with their mother and eventually knowing the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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