Dancealot Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The latest here: I am following this by the minute: Russia is rejecting the inspectors reports. http://www.dw.de/russias-putin-rejects-syria-chemical-weapons-allegations-as-nonsense/a-17057747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Syria is not Vietnam. Syria is not Iraq. Syria is Syria. Syria is just another excuse (Gulf of Tonkin). Syria is Iraq. Syria is the money mule. Obama obviously didn't want anything like this. It's so easy to see all U.S. presidents as alike, but that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The latest here: I am following this by the minute: Russia is rejecting the inspectors reports. http://www.dw.de/russias-putin-rejects-syria-chemical-weapons-allegations-as-nonsense/a-17057747 Of course they are. That isn't news. That is 100 percent expected. They are locked in to their position regarding Assad. Doesn't matter what he did or didn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) The latest here: I am following this by the minute: Russia is rejecting the inspectors reports. http://www.dw.de/russias-putin-rejects-syria-chemical-weapons-allegations-as-nonsense/a-17057747 Of course. Goes without saying. They would reject Assad himself saying he did it. Russian will back their position to the bitter end regardless of evidence or reality. Why, because Putin can do or say anything he wants and no one in Russia can do jack <deleted> about it. Putin will also NEVER ever admit he is wrong on anything and he has the untenable position of being in the corner of a war criminal committing mass genocide. Edited August 31, 2013 by F430murci 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Obama obviously didn't want anything like this. It's so easy to see all U.S. presidents as alike, but that's not the case. So what's he doing in Syria's backyard? Obama is just a puppet, like the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The latest here: I am following this by the minute: Russia is rejecting the inspectors reports. http://www.dw.de/russias-putin-rejects-syria-chemical-weapons-allegations-as-nonsense/a-17057747 Of course. Goes without saying. They would reject Assad himself saying he did it. Russian will back their position to the bitter end regardless of evidence or reality. Why, because Putin can do or say anything he wants and no one in Russia can do jack <deleted> about it. Putin will also NEVER ever admit he is wrong on something like this. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 A post in violation of fair use policy has been removed. It is generally accepted, but not written into law, that quoting the first two or three sentences of an article and giving a link to the source is considered “fair use” and not a violation of copyright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Obama obviously didn't want anything like this. It's so easy to see all U.S. presidents as alike, but that's not the case. So what's he doing in Syria's backyard? Obama is just a puppet, like the others. Fine. Puppets huh? I won't even ask. I reckon if a bigger war breaks out, we'll be on different sides anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 There is no international body that can tell the US or any other country what to do. Assuming you are speaking from a moral rather than pragmatic standpoint, then is there an international body that can tell the sovereign country of Syria "what to do"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Fine. Puppets huh? I won't even ask. I reckon if a bigger war breaks out, we'll be on different sides anyway. Wrong, you think positive and try to support your commitment to your country and your opinion. Therefore we are allies. Forever. Edited August 31, 2013 by Dancealot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mania Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 With all due respect, I'm really tired of hearing about "international laws." There is no international body that can tell the US or any other country what to do. Do you really think that the US or any other Western country would release its sovereignty to some higher international power? Goes without saying none forfeit their sovereignty but at the same time if that is the case then they should abolish the United Nations Charter & the BS Security Council if none of it applies or benefits the world with checks & balances 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The latest here: I am following this by the minute: Russia is rejecting the inspectors reports. http://www.dw.de/russias-putin-rejects-syria-chemical-weapons-allegations-as-nonsense/a-17057747 As I read it, the article states that Putin rejects the US allegations, not the inspectors report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The latest here: I am following this by the minute: Russia is rejecting the inspectors reports. http://www.dw.de/russias-putin-rejects-syria-chemical-weapons-allegations-as-nonsense/a-17057747 As I read it, the article states that Putin rejects the US allegations, not the inspectors report. Correct. Very diplomatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) The case for punitive action against Assad. Basically, doing nothing is worse. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/08/a_military_strike_in_syria_doesn_t_have_to_save_the_people_it_just_has_to.html So why do it? Because if we don’t, things can get much worse. “We cannot see a breach of the nonproliferation norm,” Obama argued. We “have to make sure that when countries break international norms on weapons like chemical weapons that could threaten us, that they are held accountable.” This afternoon, Kerry elaborated: “A lot of other countries whose policy has challenged these international norms are watching. … They are watching to see if Syria can get away with it, because then maybe they too can put the world at greater risk. … [if] Assad can gas thousands of his own people with impunity … there will be no end to the test of our resolve and the dangers that will flow from those others who believe that they can do as they will. … [iran] will now feel emboldened, in the absence of action, to obtain nuclear weapons. It is about Hezbollah and North Korea and every other terrorist group or dictator that might ever again contemplate the use of weapons of mass destruction. Will they remember that the Assad regime was stopped from those weapons’ current or future use? Or will they remember that the world stood aside and created impunity?” I wouldn't expect pro-Putin, Iran apologists, etc. people to agree. Different sides, natch. Edited August 31, 2013 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubin Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 NeverSure, c'mon your own president Mr Obama is saying: On Friday, Obama said such attacks threaten U.S. national security interests by violating international norms against the use of chemical weapons. He said he had not yet made a final decision about what course of action to take in response to the alleged use of chemical weapons, but said the world "has an obligation" to maintain the norm against the use of such weapons. norms = laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JDGRUEN Posted August 31, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2013 “AMATEUR HOUR” – Krauthammer: Obama boxed himself in and now he’s looking for a way out of attacking Syria Charles Krauthammer said that it was astonishing the lack of urgency he displayed, suggesting he could carry out this attack in the next week or the next month. “This is amateur hour,” http://therightscoop.com/amateur-hour-krauthammer-obama-boxed-himself-in-and-now-hes-looking-for-a-way-out-of-attacking-syria/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted September 1, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2013 Charles Krauthammer always hits the nail right on the head. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Another Fox talking head, who obviously doesn't know that the simply the threat of a few tomahawks will probably have the desired effect. Do you think Assad will use chemicals again while this is hanging over him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. This is not about Haiti or Liberia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesWeCan Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I merely wonder how many more civilians will be killed by those planned air strikes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Off-topic and inflammatory posts and replies have been removed. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloo22 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Here is a nice article,"Erdogan wants Syria regime change, not limited strikes" on the thoughts of Turkey's President Erdogan on the Syria conflict. Erdogan seems to be disappointed that only a "limited strike" is planned. He says “A limited operation cannot be satisfactory for us,”. I wonder if he is going to be upset enough to use Turkish military forces to effect this regime change that he wants? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeKay Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 There appears to be enough credible reporting backed with journalistic evidence indicating the gas attack is nothing but a false flag event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeKay Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Charles Krauthammer always hits the nail right on the head. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 There appears to be enough credible reporting backed with journalistic evidence indicating the gas attack is nothing but a false flag event. I haven't seen any. Where have you seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeKay Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 There appears to be enough credible reporting backed with journalistic evidence indicating the gas attack is nothing but a false flag event. I haven't seen any. Where have you seen it? http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/16419-doubts-grow-about-perpetrators-behind-chemical-attack-in-syria http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36028.htm http://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/ http://www.prisonplanet.com/experts-syria-chemical-weapons-attack-suspicious.html http://www.storyleak.com/ron-paul-syria-chemical-attack-a-flase-flag[/quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hml367 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The 1st link I opened said, "Rand Paul........". There went the credible part 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) As soon as I see "false flag" or "infowars", I know it is probably BS. Edited September 1, 2013 by Ulysses G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F430murci Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) There appears to be enough credible reporting backed with journalistic evidence indicating the gas attack is nothing but a false flag event. I haven't seen any. Where have you seen it? http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/16419-doubts-grow-about-perpetrators-behind-chemical-attack-in-syriahttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36028.htm http://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/ http://www.prisonplanet.com/experts-syria-chemical-weapons-attack-suspicious.html http://www.storyleak.com/ron-paul-syria-chemical-attack-a-flase-flag[/quote Haha, where do you find these sites? Bookmarked? Here is one for your collection. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_MA6j4IhYZs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D_MA6j4IhYZs But this one really gets to the nut of the problem. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4HN4dxrMQZ4&feature=related Edited September 1, 2013 by F430murci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 NeverSure, c'mon your own president Mr Obama is saying: On Friday, Obama said such attacks threaten U.S. national security interests by violating international norms against the use of chemical weapons. He said he had not yet made a final decision about what course of action to take in response to the alleged use of chemical weapons, but said the world "has an obligation" to maintain the norm against the use of such weapons. norms = laws Norms = normal practice. Laws have teeth. You're trying too hard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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