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We wish to change my Step Child's Thai surname to my and his mums "Farlang" name. We intend to have this child living and educated in a western country as well.

Currently the child still has the birth name of the child's Thai farther who abandoned the child. Age 13 years.

Wife has custody from the courts and can defiantly easily (takes several hours) change the child's name to the mothers maiden name. This has been confirmed but the local office as well, we just did not have the paper work that day.

I read, some where (maybe on this site) some time ago that it is more involved to change to a western name.

We would like to have this finalized before the child gets a passport.

I could not find any good thread's in Thai Visa search function, any links would also be good thanks.

Cheers in advance.wink.png

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I think it depends on the amphur, what is required.

The official rule is that a Thai person must have a name that has a meaning in Thai language, so they can refuse it on that ground. But might allow it as the mothers name is now also a foriegn name being married to you.

You can ask the official rules from the Department of Provicnial Adminsitration: www.dopa.go.th

They have an information number on their webiste.

But try the ampghur first and see what they say.

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We want to do the same thing, same situation, my wife has my sir name already.

At our amphur office they didn't want to do it and told us that we needed to finish an adoption first.

We went to the adoption office of the ministry in Bangkok and there things got complicated.

Even tough I'm married with the mother and she was never married to the father, the fact that I'm a foreigner makes this and international adoption that requires a lot of paperwork, some also that have to come from the authorities from my country that they will not provide for citizens living abroad.

They gave us an email address in case we had questions, but our emails are not answered, so we have to go to Bangkok again to sort this out.

I met an American couple that adopted 2 Thai kids and the first adoption took them 3 years, the second was in 1.5 years....

Here you can find information: http://www.adoptinginthailand.com/

Success!

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recycler said above:

We want to do the same thing, same situation, my wife has my sir name already.

At our amphur office they didn't want to do it and told us that we needed to finish an adoption first.

We went to the adoption office of the ministry in Bangkok and there things got complicated.

Even tough I'm married with the mother and she was never married to the father, the fact that I'm a foreigner makes this and international adoption that requires a lot of paperwork, some also that have to come from the authorities from my country that they will not provide for citizens living abroad.

Doing an international adoption from my western home country is out of the question unfortunately, and yes, it looks like a paperwork nightmare.

Doing a Thai adoption (that my home country doesn't recognize) seems doable, but I am trouble by the comment above.

How long ago was this?

And you comment, "Success" were you successful?

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For us no progress yet, we have to go to the BKK office again and I need to get a lot of other paperwork too.

Right now I'm avoiding BKK for obvious reasons and I want to combine part of the paperwork with my application for Thai nationality as it's partly the same.

I'm busy at work too, so it's not on the fast track at the moment.

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This would probably be facilitated best by locating a reputable adoption agency in the jurisdiction where you are currently living and see what they have to say.

It's quite intentionally made difficult due to so many foreigners simply "buying" babies, many of whom still had living parents.

If you don't want to adopt first while still in Thailand, just get them back home, change their name there, after they've been living as XXX citizens for a while under that name I'm sure will be much more straightforward wrt the Thai government, as having one name in the foreign passport and another in the (now obsolete) Thai one isn't a good situation from anyone's POV, and they'll go along with reality if enough time has passed.

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"If you don't want to adopt first while still in Thailand, just get them back home,"

We have a disabled family member and the Department of Immigration says if you wish to live in Oz, drop them from the application, they say abandon your child and leave them behind. Subsequently, I can never live in Australia again with my family.

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Well there are certainly ways around any given bureaucracy, especially where human rights are so clearly involved.

It may well be the case that that one child may need to be left in care with rellies for a while, get the status of the rest sorted and get a good specialist lawyer on the case in the meantime.

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