Soutpeel Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It's doubtful the Shinawatre gov't will pursue the perpetrators diligently. Law enforcement is inept and highly subjective here in Thailand. Why do they need to pursue anyone, they already know exactly who did it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtgruen Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) I got up this morning and seen Khun Suthep, crying on stage, while he was making an announcement and my wife said, there are three people dead and many injured. Many of the prostesters, listening, were crying, before he was. You could see tears running down their eyes. Not sure, if he was talking about the total deaths, since the beginning, or if three people died, in the past 24 hours? Our Condolences to all the families! Edited January 18, 2014 by kurtgruen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 RT @ChadapornLin: Suthep vowed on stage yesterday he will continue his march around Bkk at 10am today despite bombing yesterday I don't like him and I don't like what he is doing, but he does have balls. Someone threw a bomb at him yesterday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 RT @ChadapornLin: Suthep vowed on stage yesterday he will continue his march around Bkk at 10am today despite bombing yesterday I don't like him and I don't like what he is doing, but he does have balls. Someone threw a bomb at him yesterday. I don't like him. He does have balls, No one threw a bomb at him. Tragically, in this futile farce, another death... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadKiter Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I arrived BKK airport on Thursday 11am. There were only 6 or 8 immigration officers working and 2 to 3 people in each of the lines! These morons really know how to screw their economy during high season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post reflectionx Posted January 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2014 Wow, this site it full of crap loaded folks. After a beer or two, they become forensic experts and draw conclusions about a crime that they witness only through some social media. I guess it's the same US folks who claim that people who fought for their country from every nation they have invaded are terrorist s and fascists. Do the World a favor and go back to your beer sucking. Thanks, The Humanity 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just watched two videos of the grenade attack on PBS. What was strange on the first video was the speed with which one of the passengers in the truck ran in the direction from where the grenade was allegedly thrown. I would think that most people would react by assisting the people lying injured on the ground. Strange behavior to me. While all this is being sorted out, my sincere condolences to the family of the man who succumbed to his injuries and to the families of all the wounded. I wish them a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojorison Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I would think carrying people like they are doing in the pic would be quite harmful to the victims if they are really hurt. Wow, that's some grenade! 36 casualties... more like a WMD. What nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 18, 2014 Author Share Posted January 18, 2014 Phuket taxi driver killed in Bangkok bombing Phuket Gazette Prakong Chuchan died from complications after shrapnel damaged a main artery and lacerated a lung. Photo: Prakong Chuchan / Facebook PHUKET: -- A Phuket protester was the first to die during the “Bangkok Shutdown” after an unidentified person lobbed a bomb at a procession of demonstrators yesterday. Prakong Chuchan, 46 years old and a member of the Royal Paradise taxi rank, died at 1:57am from complications brought on by severe injuries sustained during the bomb attack. Bomb shrapnel pierced Mr Prakong’s chest, damaging a main artery and lacerating his lung. Mr Prakong travelled from Phuket to Bangkok on January 12 to join the protests. His last status on Facebook reads, “Even if we do not win, we will not back down.” About 12 of the other injured protesters were also sent to Ramathibodi Hospital to undergo treatment for injuries sustained during the attack. Six of them have been discharged. Source: http://www.phuketgazette.net/phuket_news/2014/Phuket-taxi-driver-killed-in-Bangkok-bombing-23320.html -- Phuket Gazette 2014-01-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 CAPO said legal action would be taken against not only protest leaders but also ordinary protesters. So CAPO;s response to the bombing is to threaten the protesters. Look back on how Thaksin proxy parties deal with opposition, criticism and any form of challenge. Nice meaningless words of "lets talk, set up a committee, or forum", threats of legal actions for trumped up charges, and selective violence. A three pronged attack. Seem familiar? CAPO once again warn protesters that exercising their right of free speech and peaceful protest will be treated as insurrection if it is against the caretaker government. A not very veiled threat - we ain't going and we'll get even! Remove free speech, rule by fear and intimidation, and pretend to be a supporter of democracy and party of the people. Soviet Union, East Germany, Zimbabwe models of "democracy". Not to be confused with a real democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It beggars belief that some of posters continually accusing PDRC of committing acts of violence against themselves. It's absolutely laughable accusation. Why? Anyone who knows Bankokians knows well that they do not condone violence. Furthermore, Bangkokians are afraid of violence. They simply do not like it and stay away from it. Since violent acts started the numbers started dropping. A fact which is difficult to refute. You're hilarious. Of course they condone violence. Their leader is wanted on charges of ordering people shot dead in cold blood. That and that Bangkokians are afraid of violence is what you base you theory on? Ever wonder why people don't walk around wearing red shirt t-shirts in Bangkok? Because they are afraid to get physically attacked by these yellow fascist thugs, that's why. Whilst true that such acts would cause the number to drop. It is also true that this was happening just before the grenade attack. And that eventually the numbers would have dropped to today's levels in either case. The PDRC might not have committed this act against themselves. But they are the ones who have the most to gain from it. That truly is a fact that is difficult to refute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just watched two videos of the grenade attack on PBS. What was strange on the first video was the speed with which one of the passengers in the truck ran in the direction from where the grenade was allegedly thrown. I would think that most people would react by assisting the people lying injured on the ground. Strange behavior to me. While all this is being sorted out, my sincere condolences to the family of the man who succumbed to his injuries and to the families of all the wounded. I wish them a speedy recovery. Ever had a grenade thrown at you? If not, believe me, you can't imagine how you would react. Depends on your previous experiences and background. Maybe the guy who reacted was ex military or law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binjalin Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It beggars belief that some of posters continually accusing PDRC of committing acts of violence against themselves. It's absolutely laughable accusation. Why? Anyone who knows Bankokians knows well that they do not condone violence. Furthermore, Bangkokians are afraid of violence. They simply do not like it and stay away from it. Since violent acts started the numbers started dropping. A fact which is difficult to refute. same thing happened at the red gig a few years ago. people were shot and posters were saying the 'reds did it' I don't like Suthep but it's obviously not them hurting themselves NOR is it the 'government' as Suthep stupidly claims this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 An inflammatory post has been removed as well as reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Thai military official on PBS is saying that the grenade was Chinese made and not used or available to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It beggars belief that some of posters continually accusing PDRC of committing acts of violence against themselves. It's absolutely laughable accusation. Why? Anyone who knows Bankokians knows well that they do not condone violence. Furthermore, Bangkokians are afraid of violence. They simply do not like it and stay away from it. Since violent acts started the numbers started dropping. A fact which is difficult to refute. You're hilarious. Of course they condone violence. Their leader is wanted on charges of ordering people shot dead in cold blood. That and that Bangkokians are afraid of violence is what you base you theory on? Ever wonder why people don't walk around wearing red shirt t-shirts in Bangkok? Because they are afraid to get physically attacked by these yellow fascist thugs, that's why. Whilst true that such acts would cause the number to drop. It is also true that this was happening just before the grenade attack. And that eventually the numbers would have dropped to today's levels in either case. The PDRC might not have committed this act against themselves. But they are the ones who have the most to gain from it. That truly is a fact that is difficult to refute. A fact in your own vivid imagination applying your own Western logic. The fact you have already convicted Suthep of "cold blooded" murder before any trial, somewhat reveals your own political bias which makes your post laughable. No one in their right mind condones violence. But everyone is capable of it. And, in this country, lives of the non elite are not worth much. Would you trust either side to tell the truth? Poor BiB - easier to blame the mysterious third hand, who just seem to like violence with no actual agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrich Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Suthep did not hesitate to order troops to fire on Thais in 2010 and he does not care if protesters die in order for him to achieve his power grab now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just watched two videos of the grenade attack on PBS. What was strange on the first video was the speed with which one of the passengers in the truck ran in the direction from where the grenade was allegedly thrown. I would think that most people would react by assisting the people lying injured on the ground. Strange behavior to me. While all this is being sorted out, my sincere condolences to the family of the man who succumbed to his injuries and to the families of all the wounded. I wish them a speedy recovery. Ever had a grenade thrown at you? If not, believe me, you can't imagine how you would react. Depends on your previous experiences and background. Maybe the guy who reacted was ex military or law enforcement. No, I have never had a grenade thrown at me but I have been in other situations involving auto accidents where people were seriously injured. As soon as I realized that I wasn't hurt, my first reaction was to see if anyone else was and to assist them if necessary. In my frame of reference and experience, just found it strange -- that's all. Maybe the police or media will find him and interview him. Maybe he saw something that isn't revealed on the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx22cb Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Inside the deserted building, an assortment of war weapons was found in a room. Officers from the Army Ordnance Corps entered the building with TV camera crews and protester guards. In addition to the grenade safety pin, they found weapons, including unassembled parts of an M16 assault rifle, according to the pro-opposition Bluesky satellite-based television channel. The M16 'assault rifle' was a BB gun. The Nation is certainly trying hard to make it appear as though the govt planned the attack to intimidate people (despite the fact protest numbers were falling), yet hasn't questioned why Akanat decided to change the route yesterday morning to go down the road where the attack took place (and then lied that he'd changed the route). I am not blaming either side because there isn't enough evidence for that, but any credible newspaper would have questions to ask about the suspicious goings on, not all of which point towards the government side as culpable. Where did you find out that it was a BB gun? Verified? Yes, it was verified. "Rifles" are BB guns. Other equipment (incl walkie talkies) are out-of-date "consumer" models. Other websites report that the equipment belong to a security company which has a contract to guard the properties belonging to Chula University, and 2 of their guards use this room to sleep. Hence the dated equipment and BB gun. It is uncertain whether there is any connection between the guards/this room and the grenade attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted January 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2014 Suthep did not hesitate to order troops to fire on Thais in 2010 and he does not care if protesters die in order for him to achieve his power grab now. Your wrong, again. Why keep posting without checking the facts? Most people here at that time were criticizing the then government for not acting sooner. So, yes the government at that time were hesitant. Once Jatuporn was instructed not to accept the offer of an election the violence coming out of the insurrectionists increased forcing the government to react. Can you recognize the difference between an armed insurrection lobbing grenades around, shooting people and invading hospitals and a largely peaceful protest? You've read all the ROE's and evidence to be presented at Suthep's trial have you? You could equally say Thaksin doesn't care how many died in 2010, or before or since, to get back in total power, with his crimes whitewashed, Proving it is more tricky while his sister happens to be caretaker PM/DM and has the DSI and AG under control. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Inside the deserted building, an assortment of war weapons was found in a room. Officers from the Army Ordnance Corps entered the building with TV camera crews and protester guards. In addition to the grenade safety pin, they found weapons, including unassembled parts of an M16 assault rifle, according to the pro-opposition Bluesky satellite-based television channel. The M16 'assault rifle' was a BB gun. The Nation is certainly trying hard to make it appear as though the govt planned the attack to intimidate people (despite the fact protest numbers were falling), yet hasn't questioned why Akanat decided to change the route yesterday morning to go down the road where the attack took place (and then lied that he'd changed the route). I am not blaming either side because there isn't enough evidence for that, but any credible newspaper would have questions to ask about the suspicious goings on, not all of which point towards the government side as culpable. Where did you find out that it was a BB gun? Verified? Yes, it was verified. "Rifles" are BB guns. Other equipment (incl walkie talkies) are out-of-date "consumer" models. Other websites report that the equipment belong to a security company which has a contract to guard the properties belonging to Chula University, and 2 of their guards use this room to sleep. Hence the dated equipment and BB gun. It is uncertain whether there is any connection between the guards/this room and the grenade attack. It would be of great benefit to the rest of us for you to identify the source of your information so that a serious discussion on this incident can be more rational and objective. Thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just watched two videos of the grenade attack on PBS. What was strange on the first video was the speed with which one of the passengers in the truck ran in the direction from where the grenade was allegedly thrown. I would think that most people would react by assisting the people lying injured on the ground. Strange behavior to me. While all this is being sorted out, my sincere condolences to the family of the man who succumbed to his injuries and to the families of all the wounded. I wish them a speedy recovery. Ever had a grenade thrown at you? If not, believe me, you can't imagine how you would react. Depends on your previous experiences and background. Maybe the guy who reacted was ex military or law enforcement. No, I have never had a grenade thrown at me but I have been in other situations involving auto accidents where people were seriously injured. As soon as I realized that I wasn't hurt, my first reaction was to see if anyone else was and to assist them if necessary. In my frame of reference and experience, just found it strange -- that's all. Maybe the police or media will find him and interview him. Maybe he saw something that isn't revealed on the video. Big difference in the contexts. Framing a violent life threatening situation in the context of an auto is very different, and would elicit very different emotional and tacit responses. You are correct, he may have useful information and should come forward to the police. A normal police service would want to gather as much data and information as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHT Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I would think carrying people like they are doing in the pic would be quite harmful to the victims if they are really hurt. I wouldn't even carry slotted pigs like that. But then again, what do I understand about "care"? As a farang - nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackie Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It beggars belief that some of posters continually accusing PDRC of committing acts of violence against themselves. It's absolutely laughable accusation. Why? Anyone who knows Bankokians knows well that they do not condone violence. Furthermore, Bangkokians are afraid of violence. They simply do not like it and stay away from it. Since violent acts started the numbers started dropping. A fact which is difficult to refute. You're hilarious. Of course they condone violence. Their leader is wanted on charges of ordering people shot dead in cold blood. That and that Bangkokians are afraid of violence is what you base you theory on? Ever wonder why people don't walk around wearing red shirt t-shirts in Bangkok? Because they are afraid to get physically attacked by these yellow fascist thugs, that's why. Whilst true that such acts would cause the number to drop. It is also true that this was happening just before the grenade attack. And that eventually the numbers would have dropped to today's levels in either case. The PDRC might not have committed this act against themselves. But they are the ones who have the most to gain from it. That truly is a fact that is difficult to refute. Sort yourself out mate. First of all, Suthep is not Bangkokian and Bangkokians chose their own governor. To claim that people get attacked in Bangkok only because they were red is sheer lunacy. Considerable number of Bangkoians is originally from Isaan and they openly support PTP. There are numerous billboards around Bangkok promoting YL and PTP candidates, erected by PTP supporters completely undisturbed and unopposed. Grow up. Stop trolling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 RT @ChadapornLin: Suthep vowed on stage yesterday he will continue his march around Bkk at 10am today despite bombing yesterday I don't like him and I don't like what he is doing, but he does have balls. Someone threw a bomb at him yesterday. I don't like him. He does have balls, No one threw a bomb at him. Tragically, in this futile farce, another death... Why post such nonsense? Read the reports. Someone actually threw a Chinese made hand grenade into the vicinity where he was. Do you think all these reports were made up? Do you think the taxi driver's tragic death just a made up story? The farce is a very corrupt regime still cling to power albeit in a caretaker capacity and are still fighting like hell to get back on top, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 RT @ChadapornLin: Suthep vowed on stage yesterday he will continue his march around Bkk at 10am today despite bombing yesterday I don't like him and I don't like what he is doing, but he does have balls. Someone threw a bomb at him yesterday. I don't like him. He does have balls, No one threw a bomb at him. Tragically, in this futile farce, another death... Why post such nonsense? Read the reports. Someone actually threw a Chinese made hand grenade into the vicinity where he was. Do you think all these reports were made up? Do you think the taxi driver's tragic death just a made up story? The farce is a very corrupt regime still cling to power albeit in a caretaker capacity and are still fighting like hell to get back on top, My point is that it was thrown at the protesters. Suthep was either 30 or 200 metres away ( nation, BP). I don't say it wasn't horrible, but it remains very unclear as to who did it and why. Whoever it was does not seem to have been aiming at suthep ( or if they were, with very bad aim). I don't trivilaise the incident...someone died.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Just watched two videos of the grenade attack on PBS. What was strange on the first video was the speed with which one of the passengers in the truck ran in the direction from where the grenade was allegedly thrown. I would think that most people would react by assisting the people lying injured on the ground. Strange behavior to me. While all this is being sorted out, my sincere condolences to the family of the man who succumbed to his injuries and to the families of all the wounded. I wish them a speedy recovery. Ever had a grenade thrown at you? If not, believe me, you can't imagine how you would react. Depends on your previous experiences and background. Maybe the guy who reacted was ex military or law enforcement. No, I have never had a grenade thrown at me but I have been in other situations involving auto accidents where people were seriously injured. As soon as I realized that I wasn't hurt, my first reaction was to see if anyone else was and to assist them if necessary. In my frame of reference and experience, just found it strange -- that's all. Maybe the police or media will find him and interview him. Maybe he saw something that isn't revealed on the video. Big difference in the contexts. Framing a violent life threatening situation in the context of an auto is very different, and would elicit very different emotional and tacit responses. You are correct, he may have useful information and should come forward to the police. A normal police service would want to gather as much data and information as possible. I noted that I was basing my opinion of my own frame of reference and experience. And one of the auto accidents in which I was involved was very serious and resulted in several people being killed. All of us perceive the world through a prism of past experiences and attempting to get as much information as possible. Hope you would agree since I am only offering an observation which has no political motive. Thanks. Edited January 18, 2014 by pookiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 colour me cynical, but i try to apply logic when evaluating such incidents and... one has to ask who has the most to gain from such an incident at this time? the turn out for the protests has diminished greatly- to the point where you've got maybe 100 people at Asoke, while other 'shut down' intersections were no more. just seems like a very odd time for anyone on the other side to throw petrol on a flame that is dying out on its own. right? Curious where you're getting your statistics. I pass by Asoke every night on the way home, and have been posting nightly pictures of the crowds there in a different thread here. Every night, there have been many thousands at Asoke, including last night. Certainly not 100 as you say. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/685198-information-on-protest-sites/?p=7306165 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diceq Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The fact you have already convicted Suthep of "cold blooded" murder before any trial, somewhat reveals your own political bias which makes your post laughable. No one in their right mind condones violence. But everyone is capable of it. And, in this country, lives of the non elite are not worth much. Would you trust either side to tell the truth? Poor BiB - easier to blame the mysterious third hand, who just seem to like violence with no actual agenda. No, I said he is wanted on charges. Charges that he is evading. Again, if the fascist yellow shirts are so non-violent, how come everyone I ask say they wouldn't wear red shirt t-shirts because they are afraid? And no, I don't trust any side. I am merely looking at the evidence at hand and forming a conclusion from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD68 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Rubbish Wirat69! You need to go back to school and this time attend the maths classes. Either that or get back on your meds. 100000? Maybe 100. 000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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