Trying to vote: an aggravating denial of my basic right

[icommunity]

The DEM's PCAD/PDRC is not a peaceful anti-government group. They are anti-people, anti-democracy, anti human-rights, violence thugs in the streets, parks,

...............who get murdered by the peaceful loving Thaksin Red Shirts! Oh yeah!

WHO??? again WHO???

[BirdsandBooze]

Those souls who tried to vote have more guts than all those protesters put together who tried to intimidate them.

[SebD]

I don't really know which (if either) of the current political parties are good or bad for "Thailand" as a whole (I suspect it to be neither).

Supporters of both parties either need to demand a change of leadership and change of policy agendas, or they need to stop supporting these two grinning gargoyles that we laughingly call political parties. In the case of the latter, the supporters should form two new parties, with leaders selected from the spheres of agriculture, medicine, industry, infrastructure development. Leaders should have worked in those spheres for decades. The best leaders are ones who had real lives in the actual core mechanisms of society, not people who grew up wanting to be a politicians, or who migrated to that sphere from other high-state offices.

With the new 'common-sense' leaders in place, and strict regulation of internal party policy and corruption, the two groups can return to the debating table and form consensus on how to get this run-down political situation back on the rails and probably surprising everyone with its successful performance. As far as I see it, the new party / legit leaders is the 'only game in town', they will have to adopt this approach if they are to break free of the impasse. Do I think it will happen soon, no. Not in my lifetime. But it will have to happen eventually because the alternative is a gradual descent into oblivion.

Well done. You pretty much explained what I failed to.

In a nutshell, no less.

[wave]

PDRC's actions yesterday goes to show how their supporters feel about the democratic process and the rights of their fellow Thais.

The obstruction of voters as they attempted to enter polling stations robbed them of one the most basic rights.

The death of a protester has nothing to do with this and cannot give validation to the theft of the majorities right to vote.

As I mentioned in another thread yesterday people throughout history have fought and many have died to secure the right to vote.

If you attempt to remove this right it is not surprising that these actions to be met frustration, anger and violent opposition.

[metisdead]

Nonsense posts with allegations of paid to post have been removed.

[Emptyset]

Wow. now that is an image. Real revolution anybody.!

If this is not the viral image of the day, I'll eat sutheps vest!!! Stunning and wall done to the artist who I would love to credit

I've just seen the video of this incident - rather ridiculous really...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qt9Ynogftk

[potters]

I don't really know which (if either) of the current political parties are good or bad for "Thailand" as a whole (I suspect it to be neither).

Supporters of both parties either need to demand a change of leadership and change of policy agendas, or they need to stop supporting these two grinning gargoyles that we laughingly call political parties. In the case of the latter, the supporters should form two new parties, with leaders selected from the spheres of agriculture, medicine, industry, infrastructure development. Leaders should have worked in those spheres for decades. The best leaders are ones who had real lives in the actual core mechanisms of society, not people who grew up wanting to be a politicians, or who migrated to that sphere from other high-state offices.

With the new 'common-sense' leaders in place, and strict regulation of internal party policy and corruption, the two groups can return to the debating table and form consensus on how to get this run-down political situation back on the rails and probably surprising everyone with its successful performance. As far as I see it, the new party / legit leaders is the 'only game in town', they will have to adopt this approach if they are to break free of the impasse. Do I think it will happen soon, no. Not in my lifetime. But it will have to happen eventually because the alternative is a gradual descent into oblivion.

Great Post

I just dont think Common Sense is in the Thai dictionary

[potters]

I don't really know which (if either) of the current political parties are good or bad for "Thailand" as a whole (I suspect it to be neither).

Supporters of both parties either need to demand a change of leadership and change of policy agendas, or they need to stop supporting these two grinning gargoyles that we laughingly call political parties. In the case of the latter, the supporters should form two new parties, with leaders selected from the spheres of agriculture, medicine, industry, infrastructure development. Leaders should have worked in those spheres for decades. The best leaders are ones who had real lives in the actual core mechanisms of society, not people who grew up wanting to be a politicians, or who migrated to that sphere from other high-state offices.

With the new 'common-sense' leaders in place, and strict regulation of internal party policy and corruption, the two groups can return to the debating table and form consensus on how to get this run-down political situation back on the rails and probably surprising everyone with its successful performance. As far as I see it, the new party / legit leaders is the 'only game in town', they will have to adopt this approach if they are to break free of the impasse. Do I think it will happen soon, no. Not in my lifetime. But it will have to happen eventually because the alternative is a gradual descent into oblivion.

Great Post

I just dont think Common Sense is in the Thai dictionary

[LarryBird]

Both of the political factions are facing the wrong direction and running as fast as they can, towards a bleak and pitiless horizon. The problem is that they are dragging the rest of us along with them. Destination anarchy is inevitable when Democracy is blocked as in the OP. Everyone should be allowed to vote, and if Suthep&co want to win elections, they should re-brand their party campaign and policy vows to appeal to more people across the spectrum. Simply blocking voting doesn't bring reform, it brings further instability and bitterness. Its a cheap shot, and wide of the mark too.

The "heart of the matter"....This 'reform before election" nonsense is simply the elite not wanting an election until it can change the rules (again)........Their strategy of wanting to reform the system, so they don't need to reform themselves to appeal to a diverse electorate is so blatantly obvious, that only the most agenda-hardened prognosticator would suggest it is altruistic.

Voting now is a symbolic gesture of rejection. It is a rejection of the anti-democrats and a rejection of double standards.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Truth....... I'm out of likes boss, but very will written.

[SaamBaht]

Originally from another poster. Should be posted everywhere. This woman wants to vote. It doesn't take a knowledge of Thai to understand.

[pipkins]

one more sickening image spread wide across the media.

Old style educated Thais showing respect for their elders. Total vermin.

[Jack Mountain]

Just wondering, does it matter if PTP wins with let's say 30 million votes to 10 million votes for the rest or that they win with 3 million votes and 750.000 for the rest? In both cases they will have 75% of the votes. Anybody?

[toybits]

Here is another video of a woman trying to cast her vote. This is what they did to her. How would you describe the protesters actions?

[LarryBird]

Just wondering, does it matter if PTP wins with let's say 30 million votes to 10 million votes for the rest or that they win with 3 million votes and 750.000 for the rest? In both cases they will have 75% of the votes. Anybody?

Well, my understanding is that these advanced polling stations are for what we would call 'absentee ballots' in the states. The people voting there are registered to vote in other provinces. Therefore, they probably realize these are mostly PTP votes.

[Fryslan boppe]

You want to vote?

gloriously staged picture by the reds to make the anti's look bad

the guy being strangled should be on Thai soaps at 6pm, his acting is so poor

I thought so too.....This voter-to-be has been identified and authenticated. It didn't take long for his identity to be circulated...The same way as the guy appearing at a DP meeting showing his sign "Respect my vote".....The Social Media determined very quickly the guy in blue was accosted by the thugs as shown..After this photo was taken, he was thrown to the ground, his ribs kicked while he was down, and his moble phone stolen.

The PAD-Dem's are having a hard time being true to their agenda in the face of this stuff.

[96tehtarp]

I'm still waiting for the backers to be named publically. think some are jumping ship, but they are as treacherous as Suthep himself for backing this and they need to be dealt with.

The people behind these protests are the unmentionable ones and (self censorship here), they are the very same people that were behind the 2006 coup. It's impossible to imagine that Suthep is acting alone.

They are spending at least five million Baht per day on sustaining the protesters.

The people behind him providing the money are very powerful and their names cannot be named.

try here...

[englishoak]

Well my daughter informs me she has successfully voted in advance in her first election as has my wife....Not for PTP either So Suthep and co can go stuff themselves.

[LarryBird]

one more sickening image spread wide across the media.

Old style educated Thais showing respect for their elders. Total vermin.

Explanation, please..

[BlueNoseCodger]

These so called protesters are nothing but a bunch of undemocratic thugs and bullies.

For those trying to vote, please take photographs or videos of those yellow shirt idiots blocking the voting booths, post them online so they can be identified by the police and name and shamed.

And you call selling you votes for money and murdering those who oppose you democratic?

Mere Moonie slogans.

She wanted to vote, they dragged her down, she couldn't get further, she showed definance. She's plucky, but the police let her down and they let her down, because of an army General making threatening coup noises every time they try to tackle the protestors. Undermining the police and rule of law.

The EC let many more people down, closing polling stations on the flimsiest of excuses. Pathetic, the voters want to send you a message and you're afraid to hear it.

[icommunity]

Wow. now that is an image. Real revolution anybody.!

If this is not the viral image of the day, I'll eat sutheps vest!!! Stunning and wall done to the artist who I would love to credit

I've just seen the video of this incident - rather ridiculous really...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qt9Ynogftk

Shameful, very shameful in using the name of the King and national flag in such shameful activities.

[Cricketnut]

Shame, shame and more shame PDRC. You don't hold the moral high ground, rather as per your actions the polar opposite and to lay on the ground like soi dogs and threaten people " if you dare". Your acting like and are a bunch of rabid dogs trying to feast upon the people. Tis a pity you can't stand with your tails held high rather than salivating at the mouth as you are now.

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God, what a ridiculously, laughable post.

Steady on old boy or you'll give yourself a heart attack

At least the rabid dogs didn't resort to murder while making their political pointof view!

Just the wee 4 year old expressing his views again, not to worry...

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

An election held under an SOE isn't going to have any legitimacy anyway. There needs to be some kind of mediated settlement, or other end to the protest and SOE, before Thailand can have a reasonably fair (at least by Thai standards) election.

[kurtgruen]

Must be tough, to have to do without the 800 Baht, they pay for your vote. Especially, since most people, already had it spent, before they would receive it.

Cheap round for Phuea Thai.

[dukeandduke]

Thanks for the vid, SaamBaht. I'm angry, but it's unwise to show that publicly in Thailand.

[dukeandduke]

An election held under an SOE isn't going to have any legitimacy anyway. There needs to be some kind of mediated settlement, or other end to the protest and SOE, before Thailand can have a reasonably fair (at least by Thai standards) election.

That justifies denying people their basic rights in your view?

[pipkins]

So - respect my vote, but not yours/ New rallying cry of the PDRC/Dems

Leaders sneaking in to VOTE!!!!!! Incredible incredible incredilbe. Not often I am lost for words

truly stomach churning

[andygunther]

The next Sunday, with millions of voters around polling stations, the picture would be different - the protesters will be chased away by ungry citisens

Yeah, the cowards will shoot even more.... I hope that the military intervenes soon.

[englishoak]

So - respect my vote, but not yours/ New rallying cry of the PDRC/Dems

Leaders sneaking in to VOTE!!!!!! Incredible incredible incredilbe. Not often I am lost for words

truly stomach churning

He has snuck in so will not be banned from standing as a candidate next time......... purely selfish reasoning and although his right to have a vote others wernt so fortunate a total hypocrite to the stance taken by his party.

What an insincere piece of work is our little Marky .....

[DocN]

"Some shouted at him that he was Thaksin's slave and did not love His Majesty the King."

Oh they are sooooo classy and creative!

[MaxLee]

Trying to vote: an aggravating denial of my basic right

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