mogandave Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 http://www.dekabatteries.com/assets/base/000411x17.pdf Where in that article is even the word De-ionised water mentioned ? It's not. The "article" is a battery maintenance guide published by one of the largest battery manufacturers in the US and and while it makes no mention of deionized water, it does recommend using distilled water. Distilled (demineralized) water is what should be used to top-off lead-acid batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 http://www.dekabatteries.com/assets/base/000411x17.pdf Where in that article is even the word De-ionised water mentioned ? It's not. The "article" is a battery maintenance guide published by one of the largest battery manufacturers in the US and and while it makes no mention of deionized water, it does recommend using distilled water. Distilled (demineralized) water is what should be used to top-off lead-acid batteries. So because this particular company by coincidence doesn't mention that de-ionized water can be used to top up, while most other battery companies indeed give it as an option, it is a definite no go ? Ok, got it Lucky they don't recommend a particular brand of distilled water, otherwise there would be a problem in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 http://www.dekabatteries.com/assets/base/000411x17.pdf Where in that article is even the word De-ionised water mentioned ? It's not. The "article" is a battery maintenance guide published by one of the largest battery manufacturers in the US and and while it makes no mention of deionized water, it does recommend using distilled water. Distilled (demineralized) water is what should be used to top-off lead-acid batteries. So because this particular company by coincidence doesn't mention that de-ionized water can be used to top up, while most other battery companies indeed give it as an option, it is a definite no go ? Ok, got it Lucky they don't recommend a particular brand of distilled water, otherwise there would be a problem in the world. You posted a link to comments on a board, not to a battery manufacturer's recommendations. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) You posted a link to comments on a board, not to a battery manufacturer's recommendations. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app This was the link I posted http://www.tayna.co.uk/tutorials/caring-for-your-battery.php This information has been published on the website to help our customers get the maximum service life and performance from their batteries. This information will help our customers get the most from their battery and keep it in optimum health. By following the guide below, the only way your battery will fail is from old age, a manufacturing fault or from physical damage. And it seems those guys know something about batteries About Tayna Batteries Thank you for your interest in Tayna battery sales. We are here to offer you the highest quality products at the lowest prices. With over fifty years of direct family involvement in the battery trade, we are more than confident that our promise to you will be honoured. http://www.tayna.co.uk/about.htm Edited February 10, 2014 by JesseFrank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I clicked that link, and I did not see anything about DI water. Where do you buy DI water anyway, I never see it anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) I clicked that link, and I did not see anything about DI water. Where do you buy DI water anyway, I never see it anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app From the link I posted If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. De-ionised water at most car part shops I guess. It's normally pink colored. Edited February 10, 2014 by JesseFrank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I clicked that link, and I did not see anything about DI water. Where do you buy DI water anyway, I never see it anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app From the link I posted If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. De-ionised water at most car part shops I guess. It's normally pink colored. Can you link to the statement above? DI water is clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) I clicked that link, and I did not see anything about DI water. Where do you buy DI water anyway, I never see it anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app From the link I posted If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. De-ionised water at most car part shops I guess. It's normally pink colored. Can you link to the statement above? DI water is clear. Sorry I don't have website links for local car part shops along Sukhumvit. Sorry to disappoint you. If i say you're right, which you are not, will you go away ? http://www.tayna.co.uk/tutorials/caring-for-your-battery.php 2. Check the electrolyte levels in your batteryMost batteries these days are the sealed, maintenance-free type, but there are still a few open vent batteries on the market. If you have one of these you should always check the battery levels before touring. The level of the electrolyte should be just above the battery plates, ensuring the whole plate is submerged. Any part of the plate, which is not submerged, is prone to break down. This in turn will decrease the performance of the battery. If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. For those of you with sealed, maintenance-free batteries this is not a concern, as they are designed to retain their electrolyte under normal conditions. The only way these batteries will have low electrolyte levels is if the battery is overcharged or a particular cell becomes faulty, causing over heating. Edited February 11, 2014 by JesseFrank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I clicked that link, and I did not see anything about DI water. Where do you buy DI water anyway, I never see it anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app From the link I posted If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. De-ionised water at most car part shops I guess. It's normally pink colored. Can you link to the statement above? DI water is clear. Sorry I don't have website links for local car part shops along Sukhumvit. Sorry to disappoint you. If i say you're right, which you are not, will you go away ? http://www.tayna.co.uk/tutorials/caring-for-your-battery.php2. Check the electrolyte levels in your batteryMost batteries these days are the sealed, maintenance-free type, but there are still a few open vent batteries on the market. If you have one of these you should always check the battery levels before touring. The level of the electrolyte should be just above the battery plates, ensuring the whole plate is submerged. Any part of the plate, which is not submerged, is prone to break down. This in turn will decrease the performance of the battery. If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. For those of you with sealed, maintenance-free batteries this is not a concern, as they are designed to retain their electrolyte under normal conditions. The only way these batteries will have low electrolyte levels is if the battery is overcharged or a particular cell becomes faulty, causing over heating. No, I'll concede DI water is okay, I didn't think so at first, but after a little research I agree. The last couple of posts I was just playing with you... That said I would not use the pink stuff on a bet. I am not sure what is, but it is just a gimmick of some kind. DI water is clear, as is distilled water. I have always used distilled water and it is readily available and easy to distill yourself if you can't find it. I don't know where to get DI water, but I think the equipment to generate it is a little pricy. I think spot-free car washes used DI water for the rinse. Most batteries here don't last long enough for it to make much of a difference either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Oh, and to be clear, Tanya Batteries is a trader, not a manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I clicked that link, and I did not see anything about DI water. Where do you buy DI water anyway, I never see it anywhere. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app From the link I posted If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. De-ionised water at most car part shops I guess. It's normally pink colored. Can you link to the statement above? DI water is clear. Sorry I don't have website links for local car part shops along Sukhumvit. Sorry to disappoint you. If i say you're right, which you are not, will you go away ? http://www.tayna.co.uk/tutorials/caring-for-your-battery.php 2. Check the electrolyte levels in your battery Most batteries these days are the sealed, maintenance-free type, but there are still a few open vent batteries on the market. If you have one of these you should always check the battery levels before touring. The level of the electrolyte should be just above the battery plates, ensuring the whole plate is submerged. Any part of the plate, which is not submerged, is prone to break down. This in turn will decrease the performance of the battery. If you need to top up the battery levels, make sure you only use de-ionised water. Using tap water will cause mineral build up on the plates and reduce the performance of the battery. For those of you with sealed, maintenance-free batteries this is not a concern, as they are designed to retain their electrolyte under normal conditions. The only way these batteries will have low electrolyte levels is if the battery is overcharged or a particular cell becomes faulty, causing over heating. No, I'll concede DI water is okay, I didn't think so at first, but after a little research I agree. The last couple of posts I was just playing with you... That said I would not use the pink stuff on a bet. I am not sure what is, but it is just a gimmick of some kind. DI water is clear, as is distilled water. I have always used distilled water and it is readily available and easy to distill yourself if you can't find it. I don't know where to get DI water, but I think the equipment to generate it is a little pricy. I think spot-free car washes used DI water for the rinse. Most batteries here don't last long enough for it to make much of a difference either way. Yep...and all battery shops and auto sections of the big box stores sell deionized or distilled (don't know which it is) water in plastic bottles in either clear or pink (again don't know what's the diff) for one's car battery. And like you say, no need to buy fancy here as they're replaced every three years or so anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezza1980 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Slightly off topic... where can I purchase a go - Kart battery (12v 9a) in Pattaya? Any help would be much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Slightly off topic... where can I purchase a go - Kart battery (12v 9a) in Pattaya? Any help would be much appreciated If that's a standard motorbike size or similar, any of the motorbike shops would have them. Also, there are a few auto parts stores in a row in the west side if Sukhumvit just after the Esso gas station near South Pattaya Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybkk Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The pink stuff in the bottles is an electrolyte solution I believe and from what I can understand it's designed for when you have an older battery that you forgot to top-up and which dies on you. Because it's older, using distilled water to top up won't bring it back from the dead and it won't hold much of a charge. Get a jump start, go buy some of the pink stuff and top up with that and your battery will keep going for a while. One of the pink stuff brands is called "Revive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Am just in for a new car battery .My last experience with the " maintenance free " battery I bought was very sad , got a new one on warranty after 6 months and now this one has also gone after about 5 months . ( I dont use my car much which doesn't help I suppose .) Seems they dont give a second battery with a warranty . Anyone bought a maintenance type battery recently for a 2 litre German car ? Would be keen to know the make , price and the shop in Pattaya or Jomtien that you recommend . Thanks, Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 After 2 "Toyota" batteries that lasted exactly 2 years my Boliden silver cadmium is now 3 years old and seems OK though the voltage has dropped to 12.6. They advertise 40% longer life for "your" usage which it has done......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Thanks for that , Transam , I'll go look for one this weekend. Best Regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseFrank Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 After 2 "Toyota" batteries that lasted exactly 2 years my Boliden silver cadmium is now 3 years old and seems OK though the voltage has dropped to 12.6. They advertise 40% longer life for "your" usage which it has done......... That shows that Toyota must have the worst batteries from any manufacturer. I had a Yaris battery that failed me after 2 years, I was in Ubon when it failed by the way, but my Nissan battery lasted +3 years and my ex girlfriend Mazda battery lasted almost 4 years. So anything will last 40% longer than a standard Toyota battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) After 2 "Toyota" batteries that lasted exactly 2 years my Boliden silver cadmium is now 3 years old and seems OK though the voltage has dropped to 12.6. They advertise 40% longer life for "your" usage which it has done......... That shows that Toyota must have the worst batteries from any manufacturer. I had a Yaris battery that failed me after 2 years, I was in Ubon when it failed by the way, but my Nissan battery lasted +3 years and my ex girlfriend Mazda battery lasted almost 4 years. So anything will last 40% longer than a standard Toyota battery. We did have a poll here once regarding battery longevity and the winner was 2 years.. In my case for sure it is related to the rides usage, daily short trips with lots of starting. PS. I made a mistake, it's silver calcium not cadmium ( ). Edited August 28, 2014 by transam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I just replaced the one for my Honda City at the new dealership near the Ambassador. I think it was 1800B. Got a free espresso and car wash. In and out in 45 minutes. Great service and nice, new dealership. I (now) use one of the other new dealerships near the Ambassador and am delighted to finally be rid of the a*swipe dealers in Pattaya. They wont be seeing me again in this lifetime. My place near the Ambassador also gives a free car wash with every visit (actually a lot better wash than the ones I pay 180B for in town). Good, quick and polite service but the coffee there is only instant. Anyone know if these places (near Ambassador) handle (old) Toyotas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I just replaced the one for my Honda City at the new dealership near the Ambassador. I think it was 1800B. Got a free espresso and car wash. In and out in 45 minutes. Great service and nice, new dealership. I (now) use one of the other new dealerships near the Ambassador and am delighted to finally be rid of the a*swipe dealers in Pattaya. They wont be seeing me again in this lifetime. My place near the Ambassador also gives a free car wash with every visit (actually a lot better wash than the ones I pay 180B for in town). Good, quick and polite service but the coffee there is only instant. Anyone know if these places (near Ambassador) handle (old) Toyotas? There's a brand new Toyota dealer opening up just South of the floating market. Should be open shortly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 There's a brand new Toyota dealer opening up just South of the floating market. Should be open shortly! It is open now, at least the showroom part is. I called in the other day to see what pick-ups they had (the answer is not a lot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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