Getting out of the bargirl / Isaan dating scene - feels great!

[HardenedSoul]

What is this delusion many men coming to Thailand have that a relationship based on financial compensation can somehow transform into one based on genuine love?

Do they think to themselves, "I'm a great guy but I can't get the upper quartile women back home. If only I could get a foot in the door, I'm absolutely certain they'd love me for me"?

How laughable

When all's said and done, a guy like the OP in the West isn't going to miraculously change into a great guy in Thailand.

The only thing the liberal application of money does is postpone the arrival of the day when any woman unfortunate enough to hook up with him kicks him firmly to the kerb.

[rayongchelsea]

The op is stating a point.

Bar girls are not for dating.

Most Bar girls come from issarn and are not for dating.

Issarn girls - well there are tons of threads on here about that subject but obviously makes someone weary of dating a girl from there.

This isn't about him, it's about what is very evident here..why attack him.

So you are just the way you are at home..you come across as very unpleasant..

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[rgs2001uk]

^^^^^,

over many years of observing these knights in shining armour, one thing remains the same, any relationship that starts with a financial transaction will end with one.

To our love starved Quasimodos looking for love in the depths of the septic tank that is lower Suk, best you learn this Thai phrase, lin mai mee graduk.

<deleted> is a "Baccara hottie" to me it implies one who is too ugly to be employed in the more upmarket knocking shops of Ratchada.

No wonder the Thais laugh.

Edited February 17, 2014 by rgs2001uk

[HardenedSoul]

I dont know if the OP meant to write what he did on the forum to convince himself, or others, but his argument is weak...these girls deserve respect, especially, if they acknowledge who they are, and what they are.........no man from the west can be fooled by a thai girl, he caN ONLY pretend, that he was

This is coming from a guy who genuinely believes he's being magnanimous by not insisting his bargirl girlfriend allow him to shag her when she's on her period

That hasn't changed.

All it takes is a towel underneath her

Get your girl to translate what I wrote. Her English is probably better than yours

[rgs2001uk]

^^^^,

addendum to the above, so as not to upset our more sensistive "colonial cousins", the word septic was used as a description of a septic tank, not as cockney rhyming.

[Tchooptip]

if your young its proberly good for you to get out but if your old like me then this bar girl dating scene is the only option one has

but if your old like me ... How old are you?

[rgs2001uk]

if your young its proberly good for you to get out but if your old like me then this bar girl dating scene is the only option one has

but if your old like me ... How old are you?

Can someone please explain in non PC speak <deleted> is "bar girl dating scene"?

Surely that should be translated as a financial transaction taking place.

I go to 7 I buy a bottle of milk, I hand over money i dont fall in love with the girl because i gave her money.

To salavan, get a haircut and a shave, get off the turps, go to the market and buy some decent clothes, throw the wife beater and the flip flops in the bin.

Do you live here or are you yet another 2 week millionaire?

[rayongchelsea]

if your young its proberly good for you to get out but if your old like me then this bar girl dating scene is the only option one has

but if your old like me ... How old are you?

Can someone please explain in non PC speak <deleted> is "bar girl dating scene"?

Surely that should be translated as a financial transaction taking place.

I go to 7 I buy a bottle of milk, I hand over money i dont fall in love with the girl because i gave her money.

To salavan, get a haircut and a shave, get off the turps, go to the market and buy some decent clothes, throw the wife beater and the flip flops in the bin.

Do you live here or are you yet another 2 week millionaire?

Bar girl dating scene = More than one night..

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[Tchooptip]

Of course not. I had to keep that part hidden. If she knew my past, she would finish with me. Why ask such a stupid, pointless question?

If you found out your girlfriend was an ex bar girl who had serviced 100s of men, wouldn't you walk away?

What's wrong with criticisizing bargirls even though I enjoy them for sex? Yes, I enjoy them but ultimately I found it unsatisfying from an emotional point of view. Similar to looking at porn. Meaningless in the big picture. Very few guys could ever attract a hot Baccara girl back home. I've seen their types in the clubs surrounded by groups of men all jostling for the chance. I criticize the bar girl acting as eventually their true feelings are seen and its unsettling. Like watching a children's movie star leave a set to go for a smoke.

If you find my posts trollish, why in the hell do you not only read them but in fact respond? Are you completely retarded?

who you talking to?

Himself

[Scarpolo]

Men with power can attract nearly anything, including the wives of other men (sorry to those whose wives I shagged)

Clearly men without power can bang the arse off your hi so Brazilian wife too but I'm sure they won't be apologising to you, you big stud you

They did before we were married,

I had her to myself the entire time of the marriage,

I doubt seriously anyone truly wants her now, she is beyond damaged physcially and mutilated by cancer surgeons,

what happens when you are warned time and again, not to smoke when your mother died of oral cancer,

not that I wish any harm on her,

her life was made, by all of her husbands, she just had that deep inferiority complex that she blamed on everyone, starting with the step grandfather she claimed molested her, who later hung himself

seriously damaged goods, you can have her phone number, anytime

[wym]

[wym]

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

[Scarpolo]

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

Anyone needing confirmation of the any of the above need only open a profile page on Tagged and Thai Friendly, and you will get a steady stream of thai girls, aged 20-30, who seek men of ALL AGES????? Really?????, but, not, they aren't predators, seeking prey?

and who is replying to them, WHITE MEN......and, this is disputed?

[Somsrisonphimai]

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?

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[Munger]

You're dam_n right I'm a scummy racist. Proud of it too. The world would be a lot better off without a lot of the disadvantaged that consume resources instead of contributing. I'm in favour of forced sterilization for drug addicts, murderers and rapists, as well as child molesters. You don't have to agree with anything I say…just use the ignore. Please! And never reply to another of my posts again or else! You are not wanted? Do you understand that?

Hang on you're a racist that dates Thai girls?

Am I missing something ?

For sure you are missing something. "the whole thread" How many more replys do you want to post on this thread trying to defend prostitutes.? Why so sensitive ?

[glegolo]

So you come to Thailand and you find out after a long while that well educated girls do not sell their bodies and poor girls from northeast (isaan) do?? This seems strange to you and you do not undrstand all this...

I thought this was common sense......if you are poor you do what it takes to survive, or????? Naive people come to i.e. Thailand and do not understand....I think you will understand things here in Thailand when you are grower older.....

It is exactly the same in you own homecountry..... When you do not have.... you do what it takes to get it...... my God look arround...

Glegolo

[Scarpolo]

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?

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I searched but could not find the acual number, but I would have to say, millions, in BKK alone

[Somsrisonphimai]

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?

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I searched but could not find the acual number, but I would have to say, millions, in BKK alone

That have several farang boyfriends? Not possible.

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[Kanthralak 1]

I have lived here for 23 years, I came here when I was 35, that's the difference, I was a young guy, and I got along ok..

I would think most guys on ThaiVisa are old men, too old to adapt, am I right ?

Hey, guess what, that's why you can't get along, you are too old, just go back to your own home, be safe.

Thailand is not an Old peoples Home.

ThaiVisa forum might be though.

23 +35 = 58. You're not such a spring chicken then are you? I trust you are following your advice and packing your bags.

Bye; Ill be sure not to miss you.

Rgds,

K1.

[Scarpolo]

Oh, the several farange boyfriends thing,

I think this pertains to the visitors, not to actual real time relationships,

these are women who have multiple boyfriends, who don't live in thailand, but only are travelers, who get hooked into sending money monthly to girls, they MAY, see again, and may see again, once or twice,

I have heard of this program, I call it the "advance layaway" plan

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?


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[wym]

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

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Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?

I think we're getting some language problems here.

I am agreeing with you that only a small percentage of the total Thai female population either

have multiple boyfriends lying to each so they think they're the only one

or

are otherwise lying and scamming for money

But I am saying out of the total number that ARE GOING WITH FARANG

that percentage is very very high.

Are you disagreeing with that statement?

Oh, the several farange boyfriends thing,

I think this pertains to the visitors, not to actual real time relationships,

Well if you also include those that stay long-term with visitors but still keep their Thai boyfriend in the background, then the numbers go right back up there - IMO.

Plus the larger question of how many are lying and scamming in general, including the long con where they may well stick around for decades. . .

[wym]

Hang on you're a racist that dates Thai girls?

Am I missing something ?

I have no idea where you get the idea that just because a man has relations with a girl from another race means he is actually an and open-minded and tolerant person.

That's like saying that a man is a feminist just because he's heterosexual.

Plenty of Nazis screwed Jewish women when they got the chance. . .

[perdido]

I don't know…when we're in the club and she is wearing skin tight, mini shorts, 4" spike heels and has one leg raised on the table of drinks to make a 90 deg angle and grinding me…its not my vision of who I take home to visit my mother. In her spare time she worked at Soi 6. All my friends made the same comment.

...some mothers are fairly liberal....

[Somsrisonphimai]

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

-------

Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?

I think we're getting some language problems here.

I am agreeing with you that only a small percentage of the total Thai female population either

have multiple boyfriends lying to each so they think they're the only one

or

are otherwise lying and scamming for money

But I am saying out of the total number that ARE GOING WITH FARANG

that percentage is very very high.

Are you disagreeing with that statement?

Oh, the several farange boyfriends thing,

I think this pertains to the visitors, not to actual real time relationships,

Well if you also include those that stay long-term with visitors but still keep their Thai boyfriend in the background, then the numbers go right back up there - IMO.

Plus the larger question of how many are lying and scamming in general, including the long con where they may well stick around for decades. . .

I must be having a blond moment, 555.

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[Somsrisonphimai]

Oh, the several farange boyfriends thing,

I think this pertains to the visitors, not to actual real time relationships,

these are women who have multiple boyfriends, who don't live in thailand, but only are travelers, who get hooked into sending money monthly to girls, they MAY, see again, and may see again, once or twice,

I have heard of this program, I call it the "advance layaway" plan

(Story of the scamming teacher and teh Dutch guy)

Only a very small percentage of women that do certain kind of thing by the way.

I agree if you're looking at the total population of Thai women. But taking the set of all Thai girls that go with farang, you REALLY think it's a "very small" percentage?

You must be joking.

Personally I think 98% are explicit sex workers by western standards.

Of the remaining 2% I think the vast majority are in a very grey area, let's just say have multiple men on the hook at a time each of which think they are the only one.

Yes, very small percent of women that do certain of activity. How many women at the age between 20-50 are there in Thailand?

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I call it bidding war. Whoever pays the top price gets the prize, 555.

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[wym]

And playing the game that way by being dishonest with all concerned is called lying, scamming and cheating in farang culture.

I have much more respect for an honest sex-worker.

[MAJIC]

I read your comments,i am not impressed !

These girls who work the bars , streets ect are mostly in survival mode so I would strongly advise you not to look down your nose at at them...

There is probably a minority that are in it for the money alone but most will be supporting elderly parents,children or other family members...

What did your school teacher friend do to support herself whilst going through university ???

Since you asked,she was supported by her Mother and Father,who were also Teachers. Don't tar everyone with the same brush!

[bander]

Stopped when I read "The super hot xxxxx built for nothing but sex".

who speaks like this?

These are just normal girl in not so normal situations that you are contributing to.

Well I married one but sometimes I dream of renting the ferrari

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To late to rent it now and you cannot afford to get rid of it,

[beautifulthailand99]

Whatever way go go and good luck to you - back in our home countries we are all tarred with the same brush. Wink wink , nudge , nudge

[Daniel Boon]

reading some of these posts reminds me of an old western movie bar-fight; where blokes a hitting others for real or imagined insults, but generally any SOL (shit on the liver) dissatisfaction with life and how its turned out and how it has scarred them

I am not going to single out individual posters for obvious reasons; but I will say that I am going through the emotional roller-coaster ride where the analytic side tells you 'it ain't right' and the emotive side says 'but this is different'. I bet my left nut that there isn't a single poster on this site that has been in a continuous life-time commitment with the same partner.

Our commonality is the search for the right person who will fulfill our *needs (*whatever they are or we think they may be)' and overlook the trials and tribulations of life that have 'molded' us into the desperate we are today (yep, that includes me).

I will be in Thailand in April ... I trust you would wish the best outcome for me as I do for you.

(Martin Luther King isn't the only one has a dream)