webfact Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 BKK-Khonkaen Bus Crashes After Driver 'Dozes Off'By Khaosod English BANGKOK: -- A bus has crashed in Nakhon Ratchasima province early this morning after its driver had reportedly dozed off behind the wheel.The driver, who was later identified as Mr. Pirom Luang-Ei, 59, died at the scene. Many passengers also suffered injuries, but no additional death has been reported so far.Rescue workers spent more than 30 minutes at the scene to retrieve the injured passengers through the front windshield of the wrecked bus.The bus was operated by Nakhonchai Tour Company. A passenger said the bus departed Mo Chit Bus Terminal in Bangkok at 23.00 last night with maximum capacity and was bound for Khonkaen province.When the bus approached the scene, the passenger said, the bus was visibly swaying before it eventually slid off the road and collided into a tree.Police believe the driver fell asleep behind the wheel, but stressed that the investigation is ongoing.Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNU1qWXlORGd6TXc9PQ== -- Khaosod English 2014-02-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecom Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisY1 Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 Sad as usual......and the carnage continues.... Thankfully no passengers killed....condolences to the family of the driver... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post delgarcon Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 Why is there no technology to warn bus and lorry drivers when they are about to fall asleep? This is a major problem all over the world and I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult to invent a piece of equipment to monitor a driver's breathing pattern say and wake him/her up before falling asleep! Having owned a minivan company for a few years, I know full well that tiredness is a big problem for professional drivers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? It's many a decade since I used a long distance bus in Britain and the last time, in 1977, the coach from Glasgow to London had 2 drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delgarcon Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? Don't be ridiculous, it happens all over the world. More regularly in 3rd world countries because of lack of controls. A tachometer in every long distance vehicle should be the norm plus more technology to help drivers, as I mentioned in my previous post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khwaibah Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? It's many a decade since I used a long distance bus in Britain and the last time, in 1977, the coach from Glasgow to London had 2 drivers. NCA have 2 to 3 drivers on their routs. NCA has had the best safety record on buses in Thailand but unfortunately they have had two wreaks in the past few days. Before these wreaks it has been 10 years for them to have an accident. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plachon Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? It's many a decade since I used a long distance bus in Britain and the last time, in 1977, the coach from Glasgow to London had 2 drivers. Of all the bus companies in Thailand, Nakhonchai Air is the one I'd plump to use first. Their safety record and in-house regulations are pretty good and their buses are second to none. This is a rare event for them and while the driver may well have dozed off, it could also be possible that he had a heart attack or stroke at the wheel. I guess it depends on how good an autopsy is performed to establish cause of death. He was after all, 59, so not the youngest guy on their books. They also often run a relief driver on the longer routes, though not the 6 hour BKK-KK route I believe. Very unfortunate incident, but it would not stop me from using their services. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? Developed vs. undeveloped....apples & durian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? It's many a decade since I used a long distance bus in Britain and the last time, in 1977, the coach from Glasgow to London had 2 drivers. Of all the bus companies in Thailand, Nakhonchai Air is the one I'd plump to use first. Their safety record and in-house regulations are pretty good and their buses are second to none. This is a rare event for them and while the driver may well have dozed off, it could also be possible that he had a heart attack or stroke at the wheel. I guess it depends on how good an autopsy is performed to establish cause of death. He was after all, 59, so not the youngest guy on their books. They also often run a relief driver on the longer routes, though not the 6 hour BKK-KK route I believe. Very unfortunate incident, but it would not stop me from using their services. This bus was going to KK or Udon and stopping in Korat. It would use 2 or 3 drivers for this rout. I use NCA from Surin to Chiang Mai 15 hours and they use 3 drivers. I will still use the. http://primia.net/thaibus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Why is there no technology to warn bus and lorry drivers when they are about to fall asleep? This is a major problem all over the world and I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult to invent a piece of equipment to monitor a driver's breathing pattern say and wake him/her up before falling asleep! Having owned a minivan company for a few years, I know full well that tiredness is a big problem for professional drivers. The technology is there, there are several versions with a variety of costs, but that is the issue, the cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ericnoodeeka Posted February 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2014 it is a big problem all over the world. drove back from france once to the north of the uk, with a fellow driver beside me, left his truck in calais. we were both tired. swapped driving every 30 min. it was xmas eve. even so we were both too tired and i pulled the plug, parked up and we went to bed. missed xmass but we both still breathing and living 25 years later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? Don't be ridiculous, it happens all over the world. More regularly in 3rd world countries because of lack of controls. A tachometer in every long distance vehicle should be the norm plus more technology to help drivers, as I mentioned in my previous post. yeah it certainly happens everywhere, the bill just put a big supplier of fuel and gas trucks, off the road in NSW Oz, out of 36 gas trucks checked, 25 were un-road worthy, big trouble for ordinary motorists as you don't know how or when these things are serviced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo63 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Why don't they just ban night buses - that's when all the accidents seem to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam sen Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 another day in paradise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbie Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) It sounds daft to mention this but really good solution. If there is a monitor of the driver in front of the passengers, then they will able to warn the driver for his tiredness to avoid the to-be-collision. Or will it cause the driver being paranoid? Edited February 17, 2014 by nabbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why ask Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Why is there no technology to warn bus and lorry drivers when they are about to fall asleep? This is a major problem all over the world and I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult to invent a piece of equipment to monitor a driver's breathing pattern say and wake him/her up before falling asleep! Having owned a minivan company for a few years, I know full well that tiredness is a big problem for professional drivers. The technology has been in cars for years. Check out Mercedes Attention Assist System. JUST... Most manufacturers don't employ it yet, as so far it includes driving and wheel sensors. Then again, with all the Mercedes stickers and badges on Thai coaches, and non-Mercedes cars, I thought Mercedes was making a coach and car killing in sales here. Edit: http://www.euroncap.com/Player.aspx?nk=a299f606-1236-49d0-8bcb-2dc70574a637 Edited February 17, 2014 by Why ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Need for classification. NCA DOES NOT USE MOCHIT they have their own terminal about 2km away. The article says "The bus was operated by Nakhonchai Tour Company. A passenger said the bus departed Mo Chit Bus Terminal in Bangkok at 23.00 last night with maximum capacity and was bound for Khonkaen province." NCA does own a tour company which may use Mochit. That company is http://www.nakhonchaitour.com/nct/ Edited February 17, 2014 by khwaibah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryofthailand Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 irst thing the bus companies need to do is control the number of hours these drivers work. Second they need to test for intoxication. Way too many bus accidents in Thailand and way too many where the drivers either fall asleep, or are intoxicated or partied all night the night before when they should be sleeping. I take these interprovincial busses. I don't like to but sometimes have to out of necessity. When is the Government going to learn to enforce some new regulations. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? It's many a decade since I used a long distance bus in Britain and the last time, in 1977, the coach from Glasgow to London had 2 drivers. Of all the bus companies in Thailand, Nakhonchai Air is the one I'd plump to use first. Their safety record and in-house regulations are pretty good and their buses are second to none. This is a rare event for them and while the driver may well have dozed off, it could also be possible that he had a heart attack or stroke at the wheel. I guess it depends on how good an autopsy is performed to establish cause of death. He was after all, 59, so not the youngest guy on their books. They also often run a relief driver on the longer routes, though not the 6 hour BKK-KK route I believe. Very unfortunate incident, but it would not stop me from using their services. Nakhonchai Air ALWAYS changes the driver halfway Bangkok-Khon Kaen. And mostly there is a spare driver stashed away somehere in the bus. The picture above clearly shows a single decker bus, low profile, standard fare of Nakhonchai air. The other company uses double deckers or semi double deckers, high profile. To the question if there are "things" to check the alertness of the driver, there are. Edited February 17, 2014 by hansnl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlen10002 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 NCA is a world class bus company, the best in Thailand for sure, have been to KK from BKK many times with NCA they change drivers half way every time I have gone with NCA, shame this has happen with their bus and two crashes in the last few weeks, would still use them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why ask Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 NCA is a world class bus company, the best in Thailand for sure, have been to KK from BKK many times with NCA they change drivers half way every time I have gone with NCA, shame this has happen with their bus and two crashes in the last few weeks, would still use them. It's also possible at 59 he had a heart-attack. Speculations of falling asleep don't carry much momentum, with such a company of excellence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyKnox82 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Actually a very good bus company! They have 2 drivers from kk to bkk! I think this was the first accident they had in their company history!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 NCA is a world class bus company, the best in Thailand for sure, have been to KK from BKK many times with NCA they change drivers half way every time I have gone with NCA, shame this has happen with their bus and two crashes in the last few weeks, would still use them. It's also possible at 59 he had a heart-attack. Speculations of falling asleep don't carry much momentum, with such a company of excellence. More then possible the poor driver had a medical emergency. However, stating the driver fell asleep is of course a bit premature. But maybe a PM is then not needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumu Ali Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? drivers of buses rare to drink n drive more of them smoke yaba ice amphetamine and when very high or when long time no smoke they sleep so much cheap Ice in the northeast so more urine testing is better for safety because drugs r dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The first photo is an NCA Gold Class Bus. The next photo is from the article. Notice the yellow striping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Why is there no technology to warn bus and lorry drivers when they are about to fall asleep? This is a major problem all over the world and I wouldn't have thought it would be difficult to invent a piece of equipment to monitor a driver's breathing pattern say and wake him/her up before falling asleep! Having owned a minivan company for a few years, I know full well that tiredness is a big problem for professional drivers. There is a warning devise....when you can't keep your eyes open its time to sleep.....All joking aside the so-called Pro drivers here need to be required to keep a Logbook of time on duty.....10 hours on and 8 off....but then the problem with that no one to enforce or better yet no one cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The chances are pretty high that he'd a medical problem, heart attack, stroke,etc.. NCA is an excellent company and why wouldn't he let the other guy drive when he had the feeling that he needed a nap?- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homsiam Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? Maybee not inoff for kratom ore yaba my english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentham Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So many drivers falling asleep in Thailand. How come I never hear of this happening in the UK? Whiskey??? Don't be ridiculous, it happens all over the world. More regularly in 3rd world countries because of lack of controls. A tachometer in every long distance vehicle should be the norm plus more technology to help drivers, as I mentioned in my previous post. How would a device [tachometer] to count engine revolutions help? High revs don't mean high speed necessarily. They mostly mean engines revving in lower gears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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