General Prayuth: Govt 'obliged to act against secession calls in city'

[MunterHunter]

Meanwhile caretaker Premier and Defence Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, speaking during a visit to Sakon Nakhon, called for an end to discussions of the secession calls made by her supporters, saying she did not agree with the idea and insisting that Thailand was indivisible.

Yingluck and her brother are doing a damn fine job of dividing the country...

[ManofReason]

How about dealing with calls for overthrow of a sitting government by groups in Bangkok?

The article is about secession calls by red shirt individuals or groups...!

One of the reasons that they said they wanted secession was that they felt the courts were handing down rulings in favour of the protesters (e.g. that they were "not trying to overthrow the government" and that they were "nonviolent").

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Just like in the west those that criticize the legal system - the courts - the police etc are usually those that are breaking the law or have broken it - this government and it's MP's and PM are prolific law breakers on so many levels it's a disgrace, the PM has already stated several times she will not be stepping down - I assume that means she is going to ignore any future court rulings - if the police were doing their job "upholding the law" she should already have been arrested. The law and the constitution are the backbone of any democracy yet here we have a countries PM already stating she is ignoring it, if the police don't arrest her then the army should

Interesting line of thinking.

The bulk of the criticism of the courts is from the Reds but the bulk of the criticism of the police is from the Yellows. Using your logic, it follows that this government and its MP's and PM are not the only lawbreaking disgrace deserving of your vitriol.

"The law and the constitution are the backbone of any democracy" - which section of the constitution states that if you don't like the government of the day you should take to the streets and sabotage elections.

[almafudd]

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How about dealing with calls for overthrow of a sitting government by groups in Bangkok?

The article is about secession calls by red shirt individuals or groups...!

One of the reasons that they said they wanted secession was that they felt the courts were handing down rulings in favour of the protesters (e.g. that they were "not trying to overthrow the government" and that they were "nonviolent").

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They are trying to overthrow this corrupt govt. Nobody is denying that. They do so nonviolent. The rulings of the courts are not done in favour with the anti govt demonstrations, but in line with the law, and the law is something the average UDD red shirt has difficulties with. They really thought that once they were in power they could do whatever they wanted, because they were elected in to govt after all. That is the distorted red shirt form of democracy. Any foreigner with a bit brains, and a good understanding of Thai politics understands this....

1. This allegedly corrupt government. I can baselessly accuse Suthep of being honest. Just because I make the allegation - doesn't mean it's true.

2. They do so non-violently (umm...popcorners and the police discovery of PDRC guards weapons caches puts paid to the supposed non-violence).

3. One of the main reasons Thailand sits so lowly in global corruption rankings is the ongoing corruption of the nations judiciary (corruption is not just about money - ask the Red Bull kid)

4. The mini mob in the street trying to overthrow the legitimate government appear to be the ones at odds with and having difficulty with the law.

5. The Reds were wrong on one front, they really thought that once they were in governemnt they would be able to do what they had been elected to do without an illegal insurrection by a bunch of yellow crims.

Hey MoR get your hand off it!

[ThailandNoob]

How about dealing with calls for overthrow of a sitting government by groups in Bangkok?

The article is about secession calls by red shirt individuals or groups...!

One of the reasons that they said they wanted secession was that they felt the courts were handing down rulings in favour of the protesters (e.g. that they were "not trying to overthrow the government" and that they were "nonviolent").

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Just like in the west those that criticize the legal system - the courts - the police etc are usually those that are breaking the law or have broken it - this government and it's MP's and PM are prolific law breakers on so many levels it's a disgrace, the PM has already stated several times she will not be stepping down - I assume that means she is going to ignore any future court rulings - if the police were doing their job "upholding the law" she should already have been arrested. The law and the constitution are the backbone of any democracy yet here we have a countries PM already stating she is ignoring it, if the police don't arrest her then the army should

Would you accept rulings from courts that have proven themselves so blatantly biased?

I have confidence in the court system in the West, but I can't say the same about Thai courts.

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Edited March 7, 2014 by ThailandNoob

[fab4]

Scamper, on 07 Mar 2014 - 12:07, said:

The divide between the former prime minister and Prayuth is now as wide as the Grand Canyon. And getting wider. There couldn't possibly be more of a disconnect. They don't agree with anything. It is as bad as an association can get. They can only effectively talk to each other through the media. The dysfunctional nature of it is being aired through the media. Just how bad is it ? Well, Prayuth is absolutely outraged by the secession movement, as all are loyal Thais. But the divide comes here - he wants to see these people brought to justice, Yingluck does not. Not only that, Chalerm says that the movement doesn't exist and says there is no evidence of it !

" At the red-shirt protest rally, Charupong promised all proposals of all hard-core red-shirts made on the stage for implementation. They included the blockading of the office of the National Anti Corruption Commission, and all independent agencies which include Criminal Court, Civil Court and the Election Commission, kidnapping and taking senior officials hostages, and the separation of the country. " ( Thai PBS, March 5 ) "

What more evidence does Chalerm require than this ? And for anyone with eyes to see it goes much beyond this. So that is Prayuth's dilemma. He has been forced to file charges through the military, but he is still putting it at the doorstep of the CMPO, who will of course do nothing about it. He is also being forced to make public statements, which is something Prayuth rarely does. What is the result of all this ? The movement - clearly sensing no retaliation - is growing. In fact, red shirt leader Kotee is now being openly defiant of Prayuth and the banners are going up. And what is Yingluck as ex-prime minister doing ? Nothing. Sooner of later this is all going to come to a head. Prayuth is sworn by his beloved oath to his country that he will never allow secession to take root. Ex-minister Chalerm and all the other former members of the administration - including the ex-interior minister, Charupong who took part in that rally ( and who also incredulously just signed a deportation order for someone who never advocated secession ) - all of them are putting Prayuth into a very difficult position.

She's still caretaker Prime Minister. Get it right.

[JamesDean3]

Let the Red Shirts make the first move and we'll see.

[Rob8891]

Scamper, on 07 Mar 2014 - 12:07, said:

The divide between the former prime minister and Prayuth is now as wide as the Grand Canyon. And getting wider. There couldn't possibly be more of a disconnect. They don't agree with anything. It is as bad as an association can get. They can only effectively talk to each other through the media. The dysfunctional nature of it is being aired through the media. Just how bad is it ? Well, Prayuth is absolutely outraged by the secession movement, as all are loyal Thais. But the divide comes here - he wants to see these people brought to justice, Yingluck does not. Not only that, Chalerm says that the movement doesn't exist and says there is no evidence of it !

" At the red-shirt protest rally, Charupong promised all proposals of all hard-core red-shirts made on the stage for implementation. They included the blockading of the office of the National Anti Corruption Commission, and all independent agencies which include Criminal Court, Civil Court and the Election Commission, kidnapping and taking senior officials hostages, and the separation of the country. " ( Thai PBS, March 5 ) "

What more evidence does Chalerm require than this ? And for anyone with eyes to see it goes much beyond this. So that is Prayuth's dilemma. He has been forced to file charges through the military, but he is still putting it at the doorstep of the CMPO, who will of course do nothing about it. He is also being forced to make public statements, which is something Prayuth rarely does. What is the result of all this ? The movement - clearly sensing no retaliation - is growing. In fact, red shirt leader Kotee is now being openly defiant of Prayuth and the banners are going up. And what is Yingluck as ex-prime minister doing ? Nothing. Sooner of later this is all going to come to a head. Prayuth is sworn by his beloved oath to his country that he will never allow secession to take root. Ex-minister Chalerm and all the other former members of the administration - including the ex-interior minister, Charupong who took part in that rally ( and who also incredulously just signed a deportation order for someone who never advocated secession ) - all of them are putting Prayuth into a very difficult position.

She's still caretaker Prime Minister. Get it right.

AT LAST! Fab4 has finally given up defending the indefensible. She's still caretaker Prime Minister. Get it right.

.. like a mortally wounded creature, he gives one last feeble and almost involuntary twitch. It took a long time for you to see the light, but you got there in the end. There is just no defending the likes of YL, Chalerm, Charupong and Ko Tee.

[Crushdepth]

Well the government is also duty bound to put Thaksin in the clink, but that didn't stop them issuing him a new passport, trying to railroad an amnesty for him through Parliament, allowing him to "advise" the government and PM, or travelling overseas to suck up to the Great Man in person.

The government has absolutely no interest in governance or "rule of law" (Yinglucks favourite phrase). They aren't going to crack down on succession talk. No prizes for guessing who organised it.

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[marcusd]

How about dealing with calls for overthrow of a sitting government by groups in Bangkok?

Do qwe call for overthrows of North Korea? There are MANY similarities here.

Did we want to overthrow communism? We did - why? (Maybe you did not)