webfact Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Bangkok Police Arrest Two Armed PCAD 'Guards'By Khaosod EnglishMr. Panompai ChaengtaengBANGKOK: -- Police say they have arrested two armed security guards of anti-government protests at checkpoints in Bangkok. The first arrest took place last night on Petchaburi Road where police officers encountered the suspect as he was riding on a taxi, according to police reports. When the officers searched the man, they reportedly found a number of firearms, ammunition, and homemade explosives.The man, whose name was not released by the police, reportedly said he works as a volunteer guard for the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD).The suspect also claimed he did not own the weapons, and he was merely delivering them to his friend at the PCAD rally site in Lumpini Park.At 10.00 today, the police also announced the arrest of Mr. Panompai Chaengtawng, 43, who was found with a handguns and some ammunition at a police checkpoint in Wang Thong Lang district.Among the items the police reportedly found upon the search on his vehicle are one 9 mm. handgun, 73 handgun rounds, one radio equipment, one pair of handcuffs, and one flashlight.Mr. Panompai said he works as a temporary employee for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and also took up job as a volunteer guard for the PCAD security team.Police charged both individuals with unauthorised posession of firearms.Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1395202710§ion=11&typecate=06 -- Khaosod English 2014-03-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AleG Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Edited March 19, 2014 by AleG 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Maybe its because the PDRC guards think they are above the law and don't even need to bother hiding their weapons!, Whereas whoever is carrying out the attacks on the encampment is a little bit more savvy! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Maybe its because the PDRC guards think they are above the law and don't even need to bother hiding their weapons!, Whereas whoever is carrying out the attacks on the encampment is a little bit more savvy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Around 20 protestors have been killed and nobody is caught even tough there are images available of the killers... Only thing the police does is arrest PRDC memebrs who carry a gun and make a big media circus out of it although there is no proof they have even used them. Double standards? Of course not, Chalerm and Tharit would say. Edited March 19, 2014 by Nickymaster 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Violence begets violence begets violence. Thailand is on a slippery slope towards civil war. As things stand now, there is no rule of law -- for anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Maybe its because the PDRC guards think they are above the law and don't even need to bother hiding their weapons!, Whereas whoever is carrying out the attacks on the encampment is a little bit more savvy! Have you ever heard of self defence? Do you really think, that they will allow themselves and fellow protesters to be killed, without trying to protect themselves? Nobody is above the law, but everybody has the right to protect his life, as the police or the law are not interested to protect them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 the rtp are fast becoming a joke(actually they are already), they can catch these guards but they cannot catch the reds even when they are standing right beside them as they shoot. One has to wonder exactly what the police are actually doing, it would seem they are only looking in one direction. Guards have a right to defend themselves when they are shot at but the amount of weapons is a worry for everyone and this is without all the red weapons the police refuse to even notice being accounted for. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Have you ever considered that it could be down to the fact that the ones lobbing grenades don't tend to stand there afterwards and wait for the cops to arrive ! Have you also considered that they might not be travelling around Bangkok with the said grenades either? The ones conducting the attacks are doing so with a low profile, they're not wearing "I'm an M79 attacker" t-shirt so arrest me" Until one is caught in the act, and starts giving names of co attackers, then how on earth as you supposed to narrow the suspects down, you have a list just now that exceeds 17 millions people, good luck narrowing that down and gathering the supporting evidence to get a conviction out of it too. The Cops have been intelligence gathering on these PDRC guards for weeks, as they're out and about in the open, during daylight, all to easy to identify them, and then start closing in on them. If these guys are carrying unlicensed/registered weapons, then they're breaking the law, what part of that doesn't sit well with you?? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 the rtp are fast becoming a joke(actually they are already), they can catch these guards but they cannot catch the reds even when they are standing right beside them as they shoot. One has to wonder exactly what the police are actually doing, it would seem they are only looking in one direction. Guards have a right to defend themselves when they are shot at but the amount of weapons is a worry for everyone and this is without all the red weapons the police refuse to even notice being accounted for. What does the Law in Australia say about the carrying of firearms that are unregistered or unlicensed in public areas?? The Thai Law is pretty clear on this. By your rationale it's okay for any Tom, Dick or Bruce to carry an unlicensed or unregistered weapon even if you claim you're only doing it to protect the public?? Tell me something Seajae, do you respect and adhere to the Thai Law or not, no matter how asinine it might be? Many of your posts you have a pop at many red supporters for siding with a corrupt and immoral party, and you have even had a dig at those who agree with some of the UDD core values, but if you neither respect the Law or fail to adhere to it, what does that make you guilty of?? If you do respect the law, and you being a former serviceman, should know that any illegal weapon(s) taken off the streets and from the hands of persons who may or not have good intentions is surely a good thing?? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The man, whose name was not released by the police, reportedly said he works as a volunteer guard for the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD). Do you believe him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 1. Can we trust the Thai police announcements? Are they not known for finding wrong culprits or scapegouts? 2. Maybe a strategie of armed red shirts in disguise. When they are cought they pretend to be PCAD guards? = peaceful strategie, reds show never violence, only their "enemy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Around 20 protestors have been killed and nobody is caught even tough there are images available of the killers... Only thing the police does is arrest PRDC memebrs who carry a gun and make a big media circus out of it although there is no proof they have even used them. Double standards? Of course not, Chalerm and Tharit would say. Just as a reminder for those that came in late ,Thaskin was a police commander at one time, in 2006 (before Coup) the big laugh in the military was that he was equipping the police force with better weapons than the army, the idea was a type of para military, he's own army of thugs, there seems to be some miss guided loyalties amongst the police, me thinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beenhere2long Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 fat haggis...has someone nicked the red jam from your doughnut?....you seem a tad touchy today...cheer up ..it might never happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 Just for the record, ANYBODY, regardless of their political affiliation who is caught carrying a weapons without a permit, in a public area, and not in an official capacity should be charged accordingly.. that's ANYBODY.. off duty cops, Soldier, Farangs, Thais, the lot!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PREM-R Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Maybe its because the PDRC guards think they are above the law and don't even need to bother hiding their weapons!, Whereas whoever is carrying out the attacks on the encampment is a little bit more savvy! Have you ever heard of self defence? Do you really think, that they will allow themselves and fellow protesters to be killed, without trying to protect themselves? Nobody is above the law, but everybody has the right to protect his life, as the police or the law are not interested to protect them. So you are suggesting that these firearms are legally held by the guards? If they have a permit why have they been arrested? Nobody has THE RIGHT to defend themselves with illegal weapons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quagmirefg Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The Record of arrests for Weapons and the Solving of Violent Crimes proves what side the RTP's Allegiance and Support is on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Maybe its because the PDRC guards think they are above the law and don't even need to bother hiding their weapons!, Whereas whoever is carrying out the attacks on the encampment is a little bit more savvy! Have you ever heard of self defence? Do you really think, that they will allow themselves and fellow protesters to be killed, without trying to protect themselves? Nobody is above the law, but everybody has the right to protect his life, as the police or the law are not interested to protect them. So you are suggesting that these firearms are legally held by the guards? If they have a permit why have they been arrested? Nobody has THE RIGHT to defend themselves with illegal weapons. The right of self-defense is the right for civilians acting on their own behalf to engage in a level of violence, called reasonable force or defensive force, for the sake of defending one's own life or the lives of others, including, in certain circumstances, the use of deadly force. And yes, with legal or illegal weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 So they should arrest them. All of them. It is a national disgrace that these people have taken, literally, the law into their own arms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Bruce Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The one on Petchaburi Road had explosives, I hope the police can match it to some of the grenade attacks or the attack on the courts last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The man, whose name was not released by the police, reportedly said he works as a volunteer guard for the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD). Do you believe him? Well if your implication is that he is a fake guard, be prepared for some ridicule. Perhaps he's a UDD man in disguise, that red shirt guard they fished out of the water had a whistle didn't he? "The suspect also claimed he did not own the weapons, and he was merely delivering them to his friend at the PCAD rally site in Lumpini Park". Definitely red shirt tactics that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rich teacher Posted March 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2014 Guns (some concealed in corn bags), grenades, bombs, firecrackers, knives, ping pong explosives, ..... shooting cops, paralysing innocent bystanders, abduction, drowning, murder,...Nice people these PRDC. And Suthep said on stage that 'he loved them'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The man, whose name was not released by the police, reportedly said he works as a volunteer guard for the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD). Do you believe him? He also admitted being an employee of the Foreign Ministry - interesting combination. Is he someone moonlighting, a protestor infiltrating the Foreign Ministry, or the Foreign Ministry infiltrating the protestors. Just lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The right of self-defense is the right for civilians acting on their own behalf to engage in a level of violence, called reasonable force or defensive force, for the sake of defending one's own life or the lives of others, including, in certain circumstances, the use of deadly force. And yes, with legal or illegal weapons. Utter <deleted>, when you're using an illegal weapon you yourself are breaking the law, and if you take someone life you can rest assured you will be inside getting to know your cellmate quite intimately!! Law abiding citizens DO NOT OWN ILLEGAL WEAPONS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 So you are suggesting that these firearms are legally held by the guards? If they have a permit why have they been arrested? Nobody has THE RIGHT to defend themselves with illegal weapons. The right of self-defense is the right for civilians acting on their own behalf to engage in a level of violence, called reasonable force or defensive force, for the sake of defending one's own life or the lives of others, including, in certain circumstances, the use of deadly force. And yes, with legal or illegal weapons. 71 year old pro election supporter paralysed due to "the right for civilians acting on their own behalf to engage in a level of violence, called reasonable force or defensive force, for the sake of defending one's own life or the lives of others, including, in certain circumstances, the use of deadly force." Yeah, OK sounds reasonable 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon from yasothon Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's the torch (flashlight) I'm worried about!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 It's amazing how they are able to regularly arrest armed PDRC members but not one single case of arresting those that have been attacking them almost daily. Oh, yes, they caught a group of four armed with grenades some time ago, but they said they had nothing to do with the bombings, so never mind. Maybe its because the PDRC guards think they are above the law and don't even need to bother hiding their weapons!, Whereas whoever is carrying out the attacks on the encampment is a little bit more savvy! Have you ever heard of self defence? Do you really think, that they will allow themselves and fellow protesters to be killed, without trying to protect themselves? Nobody is above the law, but everybody has the right to protect his life, as the police or the law are not interested to protect them. All of you American 'reds' surely appreciate this being the case, don't you???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luk Mhee Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The man, whose name was not released by the police, reportedly said he works as a volunteer guard for the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD). Do you believe him? Why! dont you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luk Mhee Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Jeez! Are the photos on the table all the people from the PCAD that are on the police hit list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 What's the Army deployed for around Bangkok Steve? A good lawyer would rip you to shreds if you used an illegal weapon to kill, maim or injure a 3rd party. Do you remember the case of the Farmer in the UK, I think his name was Tony something, who was constantly getting robbed by these two Pikey kids.. and one night they broke in, and one of them never left.. He was exercising his right to self defence, how did that one work out for him at the time??? There's no point in using definitions according the the US Law, last time I looked, Thailand wasn't in Kansas anymore toto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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