webfact Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Abhisit urges the government and PDRC to hold talksBANGKOK: -- The Democrat party wants the Election Commission and the government to work together to prevent a repeat of the February 2 election violence if a new election is to be staged as ruled by the Constitution Court.Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, however, declined to confirm whether the party would contest the new election or not. But he urged both the government and the People’s Democratic Reform Committee to hold talks to put an end to their political differences saying that without talks the country cannot move forward.He noted that the government has persistently insisted that election must go ahead and reforms should be discussed afterward.The PDRC, meanwhile, has demanded reform to be made before the people go to the polls.Party spokesman Chavanond Intharakomalasut further said that the Democrat party would join the poll if it feels that the election is fair.The party boycotted the February 2 election.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/abhisit-urges-government-pdrc-hold-talks/ -- Thai PBS 2014-03-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat Haggis Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 About time he's stepped up to the plate, I like this guy, and I'd love to see the Democrats take over from the PTP, right now is the time to strike while the Iron is hot and capitalise on the waning support of the PTP I know this is maybe in breach of forum rules here but "Carpe Diem" Abhisit..start making your moves now 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUDead Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 They will win it as well and then preside over the reforms themselves. Go on Dems, contest the election and show all the muppets who say are unelectable that they are indeed just muppets with their heads up their <deleted>. I am sure you can double the amount of votes the PTP can get, they only made 8 million last time out.. It is yours for the taking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pookiki Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 Are they still going to boycott? Who needs to work together? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkungbank Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 Very funny Suthep was right hand man of Abhisit before but now It sounds he cannot control this man anymore ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sixfiftysevenmember Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 Kuhn Suthep has repeated time and time again that he will not negotiate with Yingluck or her crooked cronies and he has no reason to change his stance. The solution is simple remove the corrupt regime currently telling everyone they are the 'caretaker government', discuss the reforms and then as Suthep has said, the elections can take place. Seems simple enough to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> About time he's stepped up to the plate, I like this guy, and I'd love to see the Democrats take over from the PTP, right now is the time to strike while the Iron is hot and capitalise on the waning support of the PTP I know this is maybe in breach of forum rules here but "Carpe Diem" Abhisit..start making your moves now What you don't need is a reform panel selected by the PTP, unfortunately even with waning support , the PTP would win and it will be business a usual , riding rough shod over the country and nothing achieved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Still think the Dems should get a Thai guy to be their leader rather than this English toff. That Singha bird would be easy to watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HonestQuietBob Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 This guy can't even control the message coming from his own party, peanut that he is. He sold his soul after the 2008 coup, and then planned the murder in the streets of his own citizens - too many Thais just flat out hate him He is better off retiring to focus on his fiction career (i.e. write a follow up to his fanciful garbage filled novel The Simple Truth). The Democrats will never again crack 10 million votes and Thaksin backed parties will most likely break 16 million in the near future. Hence the threats to boycott. As far as Thailand is concerned, the future is pure Red. Scurry off back to London, loser. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Still think the Dems should get a Thai guy to be their leader rather than this English toff. That Singha bird would be easy to watch He is ethnically Chinese according to Wiki... not that wiki is always a reliable source of info these days... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> About time he's stepped up to the plate, I like this guy, and I'd love to see the Democrats take over from the PTP, right now is the time to strike while the Iron is hot and capitalise on the waning support of the PTP I know this is maybe in breach of forum rules here but "Carpe Diem" Abhisit..start making your moves now What you don't need is a reform panel selected by the PTP, unfortunately even with waning support , the PTP would win and it will be business a usual , riding rough shod over the country and nothing achieved. So what you're saying basically is that the majority of the Thai voting public would still produce a majority vote for the PTP that would put them back in power? Isn't that not supposed top\ be what holding elections are all about? He who has the most votes wins?? Seems like that's been the way a vote works since the time of its conception Surely its the voice of the people that counts??? Or not when it's Thailand?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Isaan is not voting for a party or Democracy but for a corrupt criminal Thaksin. He is still around and still his puppets are controlling this country. Throw them out first and then have elections as Sutherp insists. Your cunning plan is to ban the ruling party so the Democrats will win. Then Thailand would properly be on a par with North Korea, a shining beacon of democracy. Great idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 He is ethnically Chinese according to Wiki... not that wiki is always a reliable source of info these days... Not quite sure what his ethenticity has to do with it!? (which is Vietnamese actually i remember reading.) Born in England, educated in England, talk like hes English, British citizen..... The guys English. Not anything wrong with that per se, just think a local would be best placed. If this was the US he wouldn`t be able to be president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 This guy can't even control the message coming from his own party, peanut that he is. He sold his soul after the 2008 coup, and then planned the murder in the streets of his own citizens - too many Thais just flat out hate him He is better off retiring to focus on his fiction career (i.e. write a follow up to his fanciful garbage filled novel The Simple Truth). The Democrats will never again crack 10 million votes and Thaksin backed parties will most likely break 16 million in the near future. Hence the threats to boycott. As far as Thailand is concerned, the future is pure Red. Scurry off back to London, loser. Fancy a little wager on that? Id say the numbers reversed, 8m for the reds and 16m for the Demo's (in the next free and fair election with both parties contesting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kimamey Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 Still think the Dems should get a Thai guy to be their leader rather than this English toff. That Singha bird would be easy to watch He is Thai. He was born in Britain because that's where his mother was at the time. It happens all the time for people working for their government overseas. He was educated in Britain as well but that just gives him a wider view of things. he's probably more honest than a lot of the Thai politicians. His problem is that he's surrounded by dishonest Thai born politicians. Before you start casting doubts over people for being upper class and not born or educated in Thailand remember the king wasn't either and he seems to have turned out a lot better than those that were born and educated here. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Still think the Dems should get a Thai guy to be their leader rather than this English toff. That Singha bird would be easy to watch He is ethnically Chinese according to Wiki... not that wiki is always a reliable source of info these days... So are the Shinawatras and a lot of other high up people in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 About time he's stepped up to the plate, I like this guy, and I'd love to see the Democrats take over from the PTP, right now is the time to strike while the Iron is hot and capitalise on the waning support of the PTP I know this is maybe in breach of forum rules here but "Carpe Diem" Abhisit..start making your moves now Yes, I think probable he is the only decent politician Thailand has, that is the problem, the corrupt politicians see him as a threat to their way of life and they have and will continue to use every underhand means to kick him down every time he stands up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Very funny Suthep was right hand man of Abhisit before but now It sounds he cannot control this man anymore ? That's what happens with democrats....... the leader doesn't exercise total control over it's supporters. Suthep, for better or worse, is his own man., Now with quasi democrats there is a leader who dictates everything and his control is absolute. See the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestQuietBob Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) This guy can't even control the message coming from his own party, peanut that he is. He sold his soul after the 2008 coup, and then planned the murder in the streets of his own citizens - too many Thais just flat out hate him He is better off retiring to focus on his fiction career (i.e. write a follow up to his fanciful garbage filled novel The Simple Truth). The Democrats will never again crack 10 million votes and Thaksin backed parties will most likely break 16 million in the near future. Hence the threats to boycott. As far as Thailand is concerned, the future is pure Red. Scurry off back to London, loser. Fancy a little wager on that? Id say the numbers reversed, 8m for the reds and 16m for the Demo's (in the next free and fair election with both parties contesting) You are aware of the electoral history in Thailand for the last 10 years aren't you? You honestly think the Reds have lost nearly 8 million voters? You honestly think the actions of the Democrats and the PDRC haven't driven a single voter into Thaksins' arms? On a scale of probability it's reasonably possible that the Democrats would get more than 10 million but it would have to be outright impossible for the Reds to drop anywhere near 10 million let alone less - there'd be more chance of Thaksin and Suthep popping a handful of viagra each and agreeing to co-star in a gay porno together than you winning this bet. Last full election the Red vote was 37% greater than the Democrats vote.That is a massive margin in itself,let alone in electoral terms. Seats before 189 173 Seats won 265 159 Seat change 76 14 Popular vote 15,744,190 11,433,762 Percentage 48.41% 35.15% You're better off taking your money to the nearest BTS overpass and donating to the local beggars, I don't really need it. Edited March 21, 2014 by HonestQuietBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestQuietBob Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 He is ethnically Chinese according to Wiki... not that wiki is always a reliable source of info these days... Not quite sure what his ethenticity has to do with it!? (which is Vietnamese actually i remember reading.) Born in England, educated in England, talk like hes English, British citizen..... The guys English. Not anything wrong with that per se, just think a local would be best placed. If this was the US he wouldn`t be able to be president. No doubt he's no good at cricket as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwish4love Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Very funny Suthep was right hand man of Abhisit before but now It sounds he cannot control this man anymore ? All this are political games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestQuietBob Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 About time he's stepped up to the plate, I like this guy, and I'd love to see the Democrats take over from the PTP, right now is the time to strike while the Iron is hot and capitalise on the waning support of the PTP I know this is maybe in breach of forum rules here but "Carpe Diem" Abhisit..start making your moves now Yes, I think probable he is the only decent politician Thailand has, that is the problem, the corrupt politicians see him as a threat to their way of life and they have and will continue to use every underhand means to kick him down every time he stands up. He's not even his own man. He wanted to contest the last election but got told he couldn't. He has absolutely zero control over Suthep and the media releases of his own party. His is, plain and simply, a poster boy. No authority, no leadership, no hope, no future. The'd do three times better with the other pommy accented one on their team, young Miss Chitpas. At least she's relatively easy on the eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Inscription 1 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I thought he was in 'boycott' mode. Has the Democratic Party come up with any policies that might appeal to the electorate yet, or do they intend to rely on their ties to special interest groups again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Inscription 1 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) About time he's stepped up to the plate, I like this guy, and I'd love to see the Democrats take over from the PTP, right now is the time to strike while the Iron is hot and capitalise on the waning support of the PTP I know this is maybe in breach of forum rules here but "Carpe Diem" Abhisit..start making your moves now Yes, I think probable he is the only decent politician Thailand has, that is the problem, the corrupt politicians see him as a threat to their way of life and they have and will continue to use every underhand means to kick him down every time he stands up. Decent? Give me a break. He is a Hakka Chinese like Thaksin, but unlike Thaksin, Abhisit and his party cannot come up with any ideas to appeal the large rural Thai electorate. Edited March 21, 2014 by Stone Inscription 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Kuhn Suthep has repeated time and time again that he will not negotiate with Yingluck or her crooked cronies and he has no reason to change his stance. The solution is simple remove the corrupt regime currently telling everyone they are the 'caretaker government', discuss the reforms and then as Suthep has said, the elections can take place. Seems simple enough to me. So your solution is to have some unelected parties takeover while they can discuss reforms and " consider " holding an election in their own time? oh boy with every incentive to s-t-r-e-t-c-h things out while they are finally in power So when would they take place…………….. 2025? yes very simple Edited March 21, 2014 by Asiantravel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Kuhn Suthep has repeated time and time again that he will not negotiate with Yingluck or her crooked cronies and he has no reason to change his stance. The solution is simple remove the corrupt regime currently telling everyone they are the 'caretaker government', discuss the reforms and then as Suthep has said, the elections can take place. Seems simple enough to me. What right does Suthep have to set conditions for any negotiations with a government that was previously elected in by the electorate? He is one man, therefore he has one vote - end of story. The solution is simple. Have elections, and arrest anyone that tries to disrupt this process. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scamper Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 It is refreshing to see Abhisit. What he is saying is appropriate. It is sad that his clear intelligence still gets under the skin of some people, who clearly can't stand that. They doubt his ethnicity, doubt his loyally to his country, and cast aspersions on his nationhood. And then they turn around and throw their full support to a man who lives in a Dubai hotel room ! Yes, that's their man - Citizen Kane on steroids. But for those not quite beyond the reach of thought, Abhisit strikes the right tone, and it's refreshing to see someone who can keep his composure and doesn't start all his sentences with " I ". In terms of his suggestion, one's guess is that he is not holding his breath regarding any meeting of the minds between Pheu Thai and the PDRC. But what is happening are a string of constitutional rulings and investigations. As long as they are allowed to go forward, the system works. But Pheu Thai's rejection of the Constitutional Court's ruling today is a very bad turn of events, and does nothing to appease apprehension regarding the UDD, and what they have been signalling in recent weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ianf Posted March 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) This guy can't even control the message coming from his own party, peanut that he is. He sold his soul after the 2008 coup, and then planned the murder in the streets of his own citizens - too many Thais just flat out hate him He is better off retiring to focus on his fiction career (i.e. write a follow up to his fanciful garbage filled novel The Simple Truth). The Democrats will never again crack 10 million votes and Thaksin backed parties will most likely break 16 million in the near future. Hence the threats to boycott. As far as Thailand is concerned, the future is pure Red. Scurry off back to London, loser. Dear DishonestLoudBob: We have seen all your posts in support of Thaksin - a support that flies in the face of basic common sense and humanity. You may, or may not, be a poster paid to express support for the Reds, but in doing so you are adding to the dishonest nature of Thai politics and the scam that is being perpetrated on the Thai people by the Shinawatra Clan. Here you have a man who is not only a serial liar but also a human rights violator. In my humble opinion and the available evidence, Thaksin is as bad as you can get. Given a free reign he would be a dictator that would crush any opposition (as his reds try to now) and run Thailand in an offensive and dictatorial manner. Look at what happened in Myanmar-Burma over the years and understand the nature of SEAsian people that allows such a tyranny to take place. Well, as for Abihisit, he is no more English than my Thai wife. Yes, he was educated in England, but Thaksin had an education in America. Does this make Thaksin American? Sadly, you see, calling Abihisit 'English' is yet another twist that has recently been ordered and designed by Robert Amsterdam who is a man without scruples or an ounce of humanity. Abihisit is loved by many people in this country and those with any nouse whatsoever understand the way that he has been demonised by Thaksin and his reds on Thaksin instructions. Just take the last full election. Every, and I mean every, poster showing Thaksin in Thailand was defaced during those elections. They simply cut his face out of the posters nationwide in an attempt to demonise him further. (Hardly a democratic action, eh?) But Abihisit remains solid and is a good man. He has not run away from the accusations made against him - your hero Thaksin ran off at the first opportunity rather than face his legal charges. I am sorry Bob, you are adding to the misery of the Thai people and you may well be a Judas, adding to other people's misery for a few bob. I feel sorry for you. Edited March 21, 2014 by ianf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 He is Thai. He was born in Britain because that's where his mother was at the time. It happens all the time for people working for their government overseas. He was educated in Britain as well but that just gives him a wider view of things. he's probably more honest than a lot of the Thai politicians. His problem is that he's surrounded by dishonest Thai born politicians. Before you start casting doubts over people for being upper class and not born or educated in Thailand remember the king wasn't either and he seems to have turned out a lot better than those that were born and educated here. Isnt everyone born in tehir birthplace because "that`s where their mother was" Would be difficult to be elsewhere when your head is emerging from her delicate parts. Hes a dual citizen btw, which is my point about American Presidents. He isn`t honest and his term in office was a disaster. He`s just a different side of the same shitty coin that Yingluck, only hes an annoying Eton accent. As for the King analogy an honest answer would get me potentially imprisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfiftysevenmember Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Kuhn Suthep has repeated time and time again that he will not negotiate with Yingluck or her crooked cronies and he has no reason to change his stance. The solution is simple remove the corrupt regime currently telling everyone they are the 'caretaker government', discuss the reforms and then as Suthep has said, the elections can take place. Seems simple enough to me. So your solution is to have some unelected parties takeover while they can discuss reforms and " consider " holding an election in their own time? oh boy with every incentive to s-t-r-e-t-c-h things out while they are finally in power So when would they take place…………….. 2025? yes very simple Don't you think 2025 is a bit too early? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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