Inequality in Thai justice system is the root cause of all problems

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Inequality in justice system is the root cause of all problems



BANGKOK, 24 March 2014 (NNT) - According to leading law experts, loopholes in the justice system, and an ineffective rule of law are the heart of social problems. Therefore, a reform is needed in order to solve the issue in the long run.

A seminar on the Rule of Law and the Access to Law was held on Monday to discuss the problem of ending the injustice in the judiciary system of Thailand.

The seminar invited Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin, the chairman of Thailand’s Independent National Rule of Law Commission, or NRLC, to express his opinion. He stated that the courts and independent units in the country were losing respect from the Thai people, as their rulings and judgments are mostly politically motivated and not based on the rule of law. Therefore, it is essential to maintain the rule of law and reform the judiciary system.

The seminar also invited other experts on the field to discuss the issue by sharing their opinions on how to find a way out for this problem.


-- NNT 2014-03-24

[Costas2008]

So, Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin, was not happy that the courts didn't rule in favour of PTP and the caretaker government.

He hasn't heard of unbiased or professional judgement and rulings.

The system has to be reformed, so in the future, everything suits PTP.

Very distinguished man, and in, no way, politically motivated.

Edited March 24, 2014 by Costas2008

[Just1Voice]

In Thailand, the "Rule of Law" is directly connected to your bank account and/or family connections. Pure and simple. Mercedes bus stop killer; poor little rich girl who slams into van of uni students & teachers, Red Bull heir, just to name a few.

[seajae]

until such time that everyone is considered equal under the law nothing will change, every person that commits a crime or breaks the law has to be treated exactly the same, their financial or community standing has to mean nothing in the eyes of the magistrates, all people have to be treated exactidentically and the law followed to a tee.

[Thai at Heart]

So, Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin, was not happy that the courts didn't rule in favour of PTP and the caretaker government.

He hasn't heard of unbiased or professional judgement and rulings.

The system has to be reformed, so in the future, everything suits PTP.

Very distinguished man, and in, no way, politically motivated.

Is he a Red sympathiser? Not sure. Nice offices round next to Gullivers mind. Fairly distinguished bloke if you look at his CV.

As for what he said, if people here really think that the Thai justice system isn't a hornets nest of incompetence and corruption, please keep drinking the Kool-aid, because you are beyond saving.

[binjalin]

good article - brave guy who deserves our respect for telling the TRUTH

[CNXBKKMAN]

The article is totally correct. The lack of justice and rule of law is the root of the problems. All the politicians talking violence, ordering violence, bank rolling violence. Vote rigging. Über criminals in positions of power doing all sorts of crime,defrauding the nation time and time again. The worst that happens is they are barred from politics for 5 years. There should be doing lengthy jail time, banned from politics and publicly shamed and assets should be reclaimed. There may be no current politicians left but at least it gives the chance for honest Thais to come forward and progress to positions of responsibility and power. Thailand would become a rich nation. I may be just dreaming here.

[rubl]

So, one more reason to come to reforms which bind ALL.

[Siripon]

He's right, it's extraordinary how 8 judges didn't find Thaksin guilty of hiding his assets in his servants' names for years in 2001.

Hiding, depositing and withdrawing billions of baht for years.

And yet they believed Thaksin when he said it was a honest mistake!!!

[Thai at Heart]

He's right, it's extraordinary how 8 judges didn't find Thaksin guilty of hiding his assets in his servants' names for years in 2001.

Hiding, depositing and withdrawing billions of baht for years.

And yet they believed Thaksin when he said it was a honest mistake!!!

Indeed. What a tangled web that decision has created.

Those judges should go down in history as the people who have caused more damage to Thailand than any other. If they'd done their jobs....

[northernjohn]

I find it interesting that certain people only have problems with it when the PTP have their back to the wall.

[stoffel45]

Of course, the whole Shin Family, fugitive or legally resident, would agree.

We only stole what others have been stealing for centuries. OK it belonged to the people whom we swore to protect. But we are the real elite, the true amart. See how the peasants love us and our corrupt ways. It is expected. It is tradition.

[PREM-R]

So, Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin, was not happy that the courts didn't rule in favour of PTP and the caretaker government.

He hasn't heard of unbiased or professional judgement and rulings.

The system has to be reformed, so in the future, everything suits PTP.

Very distinguished man, and in, no way, politically motivated.

Hey Costas, check out his CV, give your 'blue sky' addled brain a rest for a while and read this:

Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin

Education::

- LL.B., Thammasat University

- B.S.W., Thammasat University

- LL.D. (Honour), University of Paris, France

Previous Occupation::

Legal Officer

Experience::

1972, 1973, 1977 Dean of the Faculty of Law, Chulalongkorn Unversity

1975 Advisor to the Prime Minister

1976 Vice-Chairman of the National Administrative Reform Assembly

Decorations::

Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant

[GuestHouse]

A belief that a particular individual should not be subjected to the law of the land is the root and founding principal of the PTP.

[chotthee]

Law is law.

Justice is justice.

There is no such thing as injustice in the judiciary system.

The law is written by the rich for the rich.

Edited March 24, 2014 by chotthee

[otherstuff1957]

He's right, in that inequitable application of the law is a huge problem in Thailand, but I rather suspect that he will exempt some obvious examples from his condemnation.

[fab4]

Let's face it, abhisit was "on the ball" back in 2006. It was only an electioneering throwaway promise and he didn't do anything about it, but the thought was nice, if insincere.

Judicial reform will be part of the Democrat Party's policies to create a moral society, Abhisit said yesterday.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/07/headlines/headlines_30010532.php

(Note this was August 2006 and he was on the election campaign for the forthcoming election scheduled for October, an election some posters on here have denied was going to take place or even existed.)

Edited March 24, 2014 by fab4

[laobali]

until such time that everyone is considered equal under the law nothing will change, every person that commits a crime or breaks the law has to be treated exactly the same, their financial or community standing has to mean nothing in the eyes of the magistrates, all people have to be treated exactidentically and the law followed to a tee.

Stating the obvious really. I wonder how many 'civilised' countries get close to this - let alone 'developing' countries, especially Southeast Asia.

[laobali]

So, Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin, was not happy that the courts didn't rule in favour of PTP and the caretaker government.

He hasn't heard of unbiased or professional judgement and rulings.

The system has to be reformed, so in the future, everything suits PTP.

Very distinguished man, and in, no way, politically motivated.

Hey Costas, check out his CV, give your 'blue sky' addled brain a rest for a while and read this:

Dr. Ukrit Mongkolnavin

Education::

- LL.B., Thammasat University

- B.S.W., Thammasat University

- LL.D. (Honour), University of Paris, France

Previous Occupation::

Legal Officer

Experience::

1972, 1973, 1977 Dean of the Faculty of Law, Chulalongkorn Unversity

1975 Advisor to the Prime Minister

1976 Vice-Chairman of the National Administrative Reform Assembly

Decorations::

Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant

And what's he been doing for the past 37 years? Riding on his white elephant?

[xminator]

When pigs fly.

[ubonjoe]

I have removed a off topic post.

[rubl]

Let's face it, abhisit was "on the ball" back in 2006. It was only an electioneering throwaway promise and he didn't do anything about it, but the thought was nice, if insincere.

Judicial reform will be part of the Democrat Party's policies to create a moral society, Abhisit said yesterday.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/07/headlines/headlines_30010532.php

(Note this was August 2006 and he was on the election campaign for the forthcoming election scheduled for October, an election some posters on here have denied was going to take place or even existed.)

An election which would take place a wee bit later than 60 days after the April 2006 elections were annulled, you mean?

So, since Abhisit got to form a government in which the Democrat party was one of the coalition partners with the government having a minimal majority, you think that sweeping reforms could have been made? With UDD protests, Songkhran fun and so? With a lost 2008 which saw Thaksin selected PMs only busy with trying to get their lord and master back, ignoring the Global Financial crisis around them? A crisis the Abhisit government tried to cope with and rather nicely even with all obstruction?

Anyway, even you seem to agree reforms are necessary when you blame Abhisit didn't do anything.

[harleyclarkey]

I was not aware of a justice system in Thailand.

A corrupt legal system yes....but justice? Now that's a word that is not in the Thai vocabulary.

[belg]

i tought it was corruption and the new faith GREED

[Nickymaster]

I would like to ask the guy that mostly wears red ties why he has not mentioned selective or no law enforcement from the Police as a main reason this country has so many problems...

Edited March 24, 2014 by Nickymaster

[Nickymaster]

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/614289-rule-of-law-commission-pushes-for-thai-amnesty-bill/

If you want to know more about this (Shin) guy.

[northernjohn]

Let's face it, abhisit was "on the ball" back in 2006. It was only an electioneering throwaway promise and he didn't do anything about it, but the thought was nice, if insincere.

Judicial reform will be part of the Democrat Party's policies to create a moral society, Abhisit said yesterday.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/08/07/headlines/headlines_30010532.php

(Note this was August 2006 and he was on the election campaign for the forthcoming election scheduled for October, an election some posters on here have denied was going to take place or even existed.)

To bad you and your lot didn't allow him to do it.

[SOTIRIOS]

....duh....how about the non-enforcement of the law......???

[Lupatria]

In Thailand, the "Rule of Law" is directly connected to your bank account and/or family connections. Pure and simple. Mercedes bus stop killer; poor little rich girl who slams into van of uni students & teachers, Red Bull heir, just to name a few.

Is this what you had in mind?

[VINCENT2012]

just have a look of the tiny book that the lawyer use when you have a problem and you will have an idea about how it works....i got amazed !

first they normally use the negociation in court to find a solution beetween parts (what i recomend to do)....if no agreement then who knows.....!

good day and good night