Jump to content

UDD: Over 200,000 Redshirts to join April 5 rally


webfact

Recommended Posts

Although this is a small crowd in CM, i'm always confident in RED shirts for their mob rally.

200,000 should be no problem as long as Dubai big boss daddy has issue the cheque. smile.png

Sad thing is big boss daddy is not footing the bill. The Thai taxpayers and citizens are.sad.png

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

"...massive "show of strength" for the embattled government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her"

Again, some corrections are in order to this historical contextualization statement, obviously written by a PAD-Dem writer:

  • The Yingluck Govt. is not 'embattled"...Her majority electorate is solidly in place, and grown since her election....The shenanigans of Suthep's street people can be thanked for that....The next election will demonstrate this growth and curtail the illusions of grandeur of coup-intentioned people, thinking their minority can make an elected Govt."embattled".....
  • Any judicial or Independent Organization being used by the Ammart to unseat an elected Govt. due to their own electoral deficiencies, will be instantly discreditted more than they are already.
  • Coup-intentioned people, not anti-Govt. people, have been agitating. Their form of agitation can more aptly be termed "coup advocacy', not protesting. Trying to use issue protests as cover for coup intentions doesn't fool anyone.

cheesy.gif You are funny. What have you been smoking? I want some! cheesy.gif

Oh yeah, funny - well rated as funny farm material. I don't understand why any thinking person would ever bother responding with a meaningful reply, just wasting their energy and feeding Fb's ego.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

post-205596-0-11137300-1396535052_thumb.

BANGKOK: -- Redshirts leaders hope that at least 200,000 of their supporters will join the mass rally on 5 April

Well, that's 10 down and only 199,990 more to go OR 499,990 more to go if one uses the red shirt claims from yesterday.

.

Edited by Malone
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Have the PTP come up with the money they promised to pay the Rice farmers by the end of March?

No payments, just like the empty promises to pay them by the end of January, then the end of February, and now the end of March... But no worries for scammers, just promise to pay them by the end of April.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

" Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her. "

​This is a positively criminal sentence from Khaosod. They have in the most egregious way possible projected their own view onto this. They couldn't come up with a quote, so they constructed their own fantasy instead. The PDRC have never at any point urged the courts to depose Yingluck. They have, instead, championed the work of the courts - as should all Thais - in the duly constitutional roles that they play. This is the Pheu Thai/UDD/Khaosod narrative at its most insidious. And it is obscene for Khaosod to stoop to such a level.

" Mr. Anuwat also warned that numerous Redshirts across the country will not tolerate any move by the so-called "independent agencies" to dismiss Ms. Yingluck from her caretaker position. "

This is also really horrible journalism - not because Mr. Anuwat doesn't actually have stupid thoughts like this, but if he wants to be represented by a really stupid statement then Khaosod should give him the courtesy of indulging him with a full quote, so that the reader can see just how stupid his statement actually is. If Khaosod doesn't want to quote people directly, and prefers instead to " free associate " the positions of the PDRC, then perhaps they should just give up what they comically refer to as journalism and simply join the UDD. If anything there should be quotes around " so called ", while the quotes around independent agencies should be removed. That is all Khaosod's doing, and that is Khaosod's political point of view. There is a difference between reporting the story and becoming the story. If Khaosod wants to cheer the UDD, let them. But if they're going to mimic the unconstitutional rhetoric of the UDD and question the authority of the legal checks and balances, at least present quotes from the other side. And if they can't do that, then quit the pretense of being journalists and just join the UDD.

There you blow again.

How long has the PDRC 'championed the work of the courts'?

Was it Suthep’s “people’s court”? The kangaroo court that was suppose to carry out judgement on YL and her brother? Didn't he say he would leave it up to the crowd to decide what action to pursue?

Is that the court you're referring to?

Your fake indignation is hilarious.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

And all over the country more rice is being planted while stockpiles are either rotting ,being stolen or sold for half its promised to farmer value.

I thought 12 years ago when I first came here to work the place was a joke eg Thaksin's pledge "I will fix Bangkok traffic problems in 6 months " but it just gets worse.

Until Asia's, self styled, Nelson Mandela and his extended family leave Thailand and settle down to life in Dubai this soap opera will continue but hang on Jatuporn will probably be elected PM blink.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oh... 200.000? What's that? a quarter of the number that spontaneously came out to protest after they passed the amnesty bill a few months ago?

200,000? Never happen. Nowhere near. 20,000 would surprise me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Numbers are dropping before it's even started. Early this week 500,000 were coming, but 300,000 have now changed their minds. I doubt very much that even 200,000 will turn up. They'll probably make exaggerated claims like just Suthep though. But that just makes you look stupid and lose all credibility.

Exaggerated numbers are just part of the game. If they get 20,000 that would be a good turn out in the April sunshine. The reds are moving their rallies closer and closer to Bangkok and eventually they will collide with the opposition. They understand that Yingluck is about to be forced out by the NACC and most of the PT MPs are at risk of being banned from politics as well. Without them and without any Democrat MPs there is no one who can take over. I would predict that new elections could not be held within a year given the current atmosphere. The only options left will be an appointed PM or a military coup. There is no legal mechanism to appoint a PM under the current constitution which only leaves one option. The reds have been threatening to fight any military take over, but they probably will roll over and cut a deal with the military behind the scenes. There are no good options. Stumbling along without a functioning government will eventually ruin Thailand's economy if they can't get their act together. During Songkran many Thais will head back to their villages and it would be a perfect time to bring in the tanks and seize control of Bangkok. Properly coordinated like the 2006 coup there would be less loss of life than from the road accidents that will occur over Songkran.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"We want to show our force, so they will see that a majority of the nation does not agree with PCAD's goals"

I would go one step further, and confirm that everyone I talk to is astoundingly tired of both main parties, and both of their street-teams too.

"What have you done for me lately" etc. and of course "both as bad as each other" are phrases I hear a lot. The political sphere is totally lifeless and there's nothing there worthy of support or even casually peeking at. That's why the street-teams both have to shout so much about how they're the best. If the actual parties were offering appealing policies and trustworthy leaders, you wouldn't need to summon a rally of any size at all. Good products sell themselves, pretty much.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

"...massive "show of strength" for the embattled government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her"

Again, some corrections are in order to this historical contextualization statement, obviously written by a PAD-Dem writer:
  • The Yingluck Govt. is not 'embattled"...Her majority electorate is solidly in place, and grown since her election....The shenanigans of Suthep's street people can be thanked for that....The next election will demonstrate this growth and curtail the illusions of grandeur of coup-intentioned people, thinking their minority can make an elected Govt."embattled".....
  • Any judicial or Independent Organization being used by the Ammart to unseat an elected Govt. due to their own electoral deficiencies, will be instantly discreditted more than they are already.
  • Coup-intentioned people, not anti-Govt. people, have been agitating. Their form of agitation can more aptly be termed "coup advocacy', not protesting. Trying to use issue protests as cover for coup intentions doesn't fool anyone.

How much would you be prepared to wager that PTP will get more votes than in 2012? 100,000?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

That's easy money. I would be ashamed of myself for taking the bet since the last election was in 2011 (July 3). So the number of votes that PTP received in 2012 will be VERY SMALL. Very easy to be sure that they will have more votes in the next election unless something drastic happens to the party (like it is dissolved). Maybe you know something that I don't.

I also think that it's likely that if the Democrats contest the next election the the PTP will have fewer votes than in 2011 (in absolute terms for sure and also in terms of the percentage of ballots cast).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"...massive "show of strength" for the embattled government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her"

Again, some corrections are in order to this historical contextualization statement, obviously written by a PAD-Dem writer:
  • The Yingluck Govt. is not 'embattled"...Her majority electorate is solidly in place, and grown since her election....The shenanigans of Suthep's street people can be thanked for that....The next election will demonstrate this growth and curtail the illusions of grandeur of coup-intentioned people, thinking their minority can make an elected Govt."embattled".....
  • Any judicial or Independent Organization being used by the Ammart to unseat an elected Govt. due to their own electoral deficiencies, will be instantly discreditted more than they are already.
  • Coup-intentioned people, not anti-Govt. people, have been agitating. Their form of agitation can more aptly be termed "coup advocacy', not protesting. Trying to use issue protests as cover for coup intentions doesn't fool anyone.

Again you come up with some made up corrections. I can not wait for the news of the comming weeks. This way I'm sure I can have a good laugh with my coffee in the morning.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Someone didn't get the fax from Jatuporn.

Mr Jatuporn said that more than 500,000 red shirts are expected to turn up at the group's Saturday mass rally to show that the UDD has more supporters than the anti-government protesters, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/715631-red-shirts-will-hold-mass-rally-in-aksa-road-udd-chairman-jatuporn

And Mr Anuwat, who is "regional UDD leader in northeastern Thailand", said 200,000 of them will be from his region. Just as Mr Jatuporn said. And others. Every one of the red shirt people has been 100% consistent about this prediction. Come Monday, ALL of them will look good or ALL will look like fools because all have made the same prediction.

Here is the (always consistent) breakdown:

http://www.veooz.com/news/BH2WTrL.html

... former UDD chair Tida Thawornseth said ... of the target attendance of 500,000, at least 200,000 would be from the Northeast, 100,000 from the Central, East and West regions, and 100,000 from the South.

.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Someone didn't get the fax from Jatuporn.

Mr Jatuporn said that more than 500,000 red shirts are expected to turn up at the group's Saturday mass rally to show that the UDD has more supporters than the anti-government protesters, the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC).

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/715631-red-shirts-will-hold-mass-rally-in-aksa-road-udd-chairman-jatuporn

And Mr Anuwat, who is "regional UDD leader in northeastern Thailand", said 200,000 of them will be from his region. Just as Mr Jatuporn said. And others. Every one of the red shirt people has been 100% consistent about this prediction. Come Monday, ALL of them will look good or ALL will look like fools because all have made the same prediction.

Here is the (always consistent) breakdown:

http://www.veooz.com/news/BH2WTrL.html

... former UDD chair Tida Thawornseth said ... of the target attendance of 500,000, at least 200,000 would be from the Northeast, 100,000 from the Central, East and West regions, and 100,000 from the South.

.

"100,000 from the South"

:cheesy:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

UDD: Over 200,000 Redshirts to join April 5 rally

Redshirts leaders hope that at least 200,000 of their supporters will join the mass rally on 5 April

So let me see this Khaosod reporting.... is it going to be 200,000 or not?

A friend pointed out strongly something obvious the other day. While it is super-simple to come up with almost perfect crowd-counting these days thanks to specific advances in technology and using photos and so on - it's never done in Thailand. No one including the crowd-makers, their opponents, the "neutral" media, the boffins and techies, no one ever bothers actually counting crowds.

So in that case it doesn't matter what they predict. Whatever they predict, they will get. Their own media will confirm it, over and over. And no one will contest it, possibly because they also want the freedom to set the barrier the next time they have a protest.

The issue came up because I noticed the red shirts' media was reporting and then confirming that they got the predicted 100,000 turnout in Pattaya a couple of weeks back. Sure they did. Also, Suthep got a million in January, Sondhi got 2 million in 2005.... Who can prove they didn't? (Answer: Numerous people and offices and laboratories, but no one will.)

.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The forces on streets are indeed PAD and a lot paid per day Southerners and not many others more.

The sponsored free drink and beverages weeks after work

are over in Bangkok.

While the Southerner blockade the streets, Burmese people doing their jobs back in the upper South.

Please educate us more. I live in the South and know of no paid to go supporters. They all go by the bus/truck/train load as required, but neither I nor the extended family know of anyone that is paying them or anyone receiving money. they pay for themselves because...they can and want to. You see that is the problem that Thaksin found, he cannot buy the south because they don't need his money. The majority of farmers here are in rubber and palm and they pay for themselves if they support something.

What I have seen during local elections are some fool politicians come around offering the village elders money to secure the vote of them all. The elders say ok, take their money and then just vote for who they were going to anyway :D. Now that is justice!

I live also in the South and i know a lot of Southerner which get 1'000 Baht per day to join the shutdown Bangkok .

My village was nearly empty.

Just me and some Burmese were left behind. After 3 days all came back.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Have the PTP come up with the money they promised to pay the Rice farmers by the end of March?

No payments, just like the empty promises to pay them by the end of January, then the end of February, and now the end of March... But no worries for scammers, just promise to pay them by the end of April.

So Jatuporn is calling on 200,000 red shirts to support the PTP in not paying the rice farmers or the people they promised tax refunds on for buying a new car.

The court jester jest's on.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

UDD: Over 200,000 Redshirts to join April 5 rally

Redshirts leaders hope that at least 200,000 of their supporters will join the mass rally on 5 April

So let me see this Khaosod reporting.... is it going to be 200,000 or not?

A friend pointed out strongly something obvious the other day. While it is super-simple to come up with almost perfect crowd-counting these days thanks to specific advances in technology and using photos and so on - it's never done in Thailand. No one including the crowd-makers, their opponents, the "neutral" media, the boffins and techies, no one ever bothers actually counting crowds.

So in that case it doesn't matter what they predict. Whatever they predict, they will get. Their own media will confirm it, over and over. And no one will contest it, possibly because they also want the freedom to set the barrier the next time they have a protest.

The issue came up because I noticed the red shirts' media was reporting and then confirming that they got the predicted 100,000 turnout in Pattaya a couple of weeks back. Sure they did. Also, Suthep got a million in January, Sondhi got 2 million in 2005.... Who can prove they didn't? (Answer: Numerous people and offices and laboratories, but no one will.)

.

You are wrong that nobody in Thailand is uses foto's to count crowds. On TV we have our verry own foto crowd counters. But don't expect to much, they will only concentrate on the yellow protest.

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"...massive "show of strength" for the embattled government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her"

Again, some corrections are in order to this historical contextualization statement, obviously written by a PAD-Dem writer:

  • The Yingluck Govt. is not 'embattled"...Her majority electorate is solidly in place, and grown since her election....The shenanigans of Suthep's street people can be thanked for that....The next election will demonstrate this growth and curtail the illusions of grandeur of coup-intentioned people, thinking their minority can make an elected Govt."embattled".....
  • Any judicial or Independent Organization being used by the Ammart to unseat an elected Govt. due to their own electoral deficiencies, will be instantly discreditted more than they are already.
  • Coup-intentioned people, not anti-Govt. people, have been agitating. Their form of agitation can more aptly be termed "coup advocacy', not protesting. Trying to use issue protests as cover for coup intentions doesn't fool anyone.

well fb you can tell TV isnt run by reds as anyone can come in here and give their own opinions even when they are totally wrong and not be shot or have their families threatened.

I see that the reds have dropped 300,000 from the show numbers, I asume their number cruncher must have lost 8 fingers and hasnt worked out how to remove this shoes yet, probably another home made explosion. Just think, after complaining that the pdrc were blocking roads and upsetting people what do the reds do, block a road but pick out the best road in the region to do so, hypocritical mongrels in action once again and all for a turnout of a few hundred if they are lucjy and that is including you and the other tv reds.

Give him some credit - he did use dot points and added some class to the debate. Unfortunately though not a lot of sense.

Edited by Mudcrab
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

"...massive "show of strength" for the embattled government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her"

Again, some corrections are in order to this historical contextualization statement, obviously written by a PAD-Dem writer:

  • The Yingluck Govt. is not 'embattled"...Her majority electorate is solidly in place, and grown since her election....The shenanigans of Suthep's street people can be thanked for that....The next election will demonstrate this growth and curtail the illusions of grandeur of coup-intentioned people, thinking their minority can make an elected Govt."embattled".....
  • Any judicial or Independent Organization being used by the Ammart to unseat an elected Govt. due to their own electoral deficiencies, will be instantly discreditted more than they are already.
  • Coup-intentioned people, not anti-Govt. people, have been agitating. Their form of agitation can more aptly be termed "coup advocacy', not protesting. Trying to use issue protests as cover for coup intentions doesn't fool anyone.

cheesy.gif You are funny. What have you been smoking? I want some! cheesy.gif

Oh yeah, funny - well rated as funny farm material. I don't understand why any thinking person would ever bother responding with a meaningful reply, just wasting their energy and feeding Fb's ego.

I'm sure FB understands that he is not allowed an ego under the "party" rules

Link to comment
Share on other sites

"...massive "show of strength" for the embattled government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra. Anti-government protesters have been calling for her resignation, and urging the military and the courts to depose her"

Again, some corrections are in order to this historical contextualization statement, obviously written by a PAD-Dem writer:

  • The Yingluck Govt. is not 'embattled"...Her majority electorate is solidly in place, and grown since her election....The shenanigans of Suthep's street people can be thanked for that....The next election will demonstrate this growth and curtail the illusions of grandeur of coup-intentioned people, thinking their minority can make an elected Govt."embattled".....
  • Any judicial or Independent Organization being used by the Ammart to unseat an elected Govt. due to their own electoral deficiencies, will be instantly discreditted more than they are already.
  • Coup-intentioned people, not anti-Govt. people, have been agitating. Their form of agitation can more aptly be termed "coup advocacy', not protesting. Trying to use issue protests as cover for coup intentions doesn't fool anyone.

Yes, Fryslan, everyone is wrong. The press, the independent courts, the Democrats. Get your head out of the RED CHANNEL and stop listening to your Eesan girlfriend. Her power base is crumbling, no doubt, ask all the duped farmers. If there would be free and fair elections (not with their usual vote buying or with the change in constituencies, which they made to fit their present Phue Thai party) they would lose BIG TIME. Yes, there are still lots of hard core red shirt militia willing to defend her and shoot, kill and cause havoc. And there are lots of paid protestors who'll show up (in fact it's 1000B this time, per day, plus free food, plus drinks, plus transport) guess where that money's coming from? I think free and fair elections are what Thailand needs, and to do that we'd need an electoral system overhaul. The former PPP (defunct for electoral faud) and then the TRT (defunct for electoral fraud and vote buying) are somehow still in charge, just by changing their name! Until that's done there is no use for elections. But the chance of getting your head out of the UDD channel is very small. It's stuck in there. Anyone and everyone is to blame, except the corrupt practices of this government.

If the Shin clan have to fork out 1000 THB per red shirt (aka cannon fodder) per day, and 200.000 of them show up it will be 200.000.000 THB per day less in the Shin clan’s bank account (without the transport, food, drinks and police protection included.) This is the only positive thing I see can come out of this.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.










×
×
  • Create New...