webfact Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Abhisit Says Election Is Not Answer, Warns Of CoupBy Khaosod EnglishDemocrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, 21 April 2014.BANGKOK — The head of the Democrat Party has insisted that a new election is not a sufficient solution to Thailand's ongoing political crisis, contrary to the government's claims. "At this moment many think ... a smooth, problem-free election is an adequate solution," Abhisit Vejjajiva said at a press conference today. "But that is not the truth."According to Mr. Abhisit, even if the government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra manages to organise a new round of polls—the previous general election on 2 February was invalidated by the Constitutional Court—the public may not accept the election results because of widespread mistrust towards the government.Mr. Abhisit's comment came the day before a meeting is scheduled to take place between various parties and the Election Commission concerning a future general election. Tomorrow’s meeting will be broadcast live on two government-owned television stations, channels 9 and 11.The ruling Pheu Thai Party has urged the EC to conduct a new election as soon as possible, but Mr. Abhisit said this will "not answer the country's problems." The Democrat Party boycotted the previous 2 February election.The head of the opposition party also warned that possible clashes between rival protest groups may lead to a military coup similar to the one that ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra in 2006."I want all sides to look at the events of 2006. The date of the election was already set, political parties already began vote canvassing, but it ended in a military coup," Mr. Abhisit told reporters.He went on, "I hope the discussion on 22 April will not see fights between different parties. The talk should be a discussion about the needs of every side, how to help the country move forward, without violence and coups."Mr. Abhisit refused to say whether his party will run in the next election, but insisted that the Democrat Party is open to opinions from all sides in tomorrow's forum.Commenting on the reports that Mr. Thaksin is willing to "quit politics" for the sake of peace in Thailand, Mr. Abhisit said Mr. Thaksin is welcomed to stay in politics as long as he agrees to abide by the rule of laws and transparency.Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1398076240§ion=11&typecate=06 -- Khaosod English 2014-04-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moonao Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? Edited April 21, 2014 by moonao 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tingtongfarang Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? There seems to be little interest in the trumped up murder charges which most agree wont fly, most are still waiting for answers as to why thaksin a convicted criminal on the run was issued a passport. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ohhh Khun Abhisit is scared of losing again. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? There seems to be little interest in the trumped up murder charges which most agree wont fly, most are still waiting for answers as to why thaksin a convicted criminal on the run was issued a passport. Have you thought about a career in politics? You seem to think you have an inside understanding of what "most" are thinking and what people are "interested in". How can you lose? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post northernjohn Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? As usual in there with your hand high waving a flag saying look at me I know nothing. The Bangkok post actually said that all Shinawatra's will with draw from politics if justice is returned to the people. If all Shinawatra's withdraw from the government what about his paid stooge's? If he with draws them also justice will automatically be returned to the people. In my opinion and not pointing fingers any one that thinks an election now with no changes will make every thing good is a complete idiot. Remember I am stating my opinion not pointing fingers. My opinion stands if the Democrats or one of the small parties win it will still not solve the political situation in Thailand. The PTP has had control for abut 2 and 1/2 years and the only changes they have made harm the Thais. Higher family debt. Higher prices non payment to rice growers and new car buyers reduction in the teaching standards in the schools. For sure that has to end and the only way is to reform the government so it can not do things like that. Not going to happen with a Shinawatra and there extended family including the red shirts in the picture Besides that I think Thaksin is looking for a way out and save face at the same time. He knows as things stand now he can not win. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiisnotrequired Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? You should watch Liverpool vs Milan 1995 Champions league final. If you think a come-back by what you perceive as losers is impossible.... you might get a wake-up call. You think he has no half-time soilutions, as a manager of his Dem party? WHAT charges are applicable to big daddy in Dubai?... is he still preparing his defence against those? Dream on buddy.... the impossible is more than possible.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lomatopo Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Not sure if this chap understands how silly he sounds when he, as the the head of the Democratic party, says that elections are "not the answer"? Maybe he should first frame the question, then offer a solution. Clearly not the best, nor the brightest, so much for the allure of an Old Etonian. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayjayjayjay Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? As usual in there with your hand high waving a flag saying look at me I know nothing. The Bangkok post actually said that all Shinawatra's will with draw from politics if justice is returned to the people. If all Shinawatra's withdraw from the government what about his paid stooge's? If he with draws them also justice will automatically be returned to the people. In my opinion and not pointing fingers any one that thinks an election now with no changes will make every thing good is a complete idiot. Remember I am stating my opinion not pointing fingers. My opinion stands if the Democrats or one of the small parties win it will still not solve the political situation in Thailand. The PTP has had control for abut 2 and 1/2 years and the only changes they have made harm the Thais. Higher family debt. Higher prices non payment to rice growers and new car buyers reduction in the teaching standards in the schools. For sure that has to end and the only way is to reform the government so it can not do things like that. Not going to happen with a Shinawatra and there extended family including the red shirts in the picture Besides that I think Thaksin is looking for a way out and save face at the same time. He knows as things stand now he can not win. Very selective memory totally invalidates any argurement you have! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonc Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? There seems to be little interest in the trumped up murder charges which most agree wont fly, most are still waiting for answers as to why thaksin a convicted criminal on the run was issued a passport. Have you thought about a career in politics? You seem to think you have an inside understanding of what "most" are thinking and what people are "interested in". How can you lose? pot ....kettle.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiisnotrequired Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Not sure if this chap understands how silly he sounds when he, as the the head of the Democratic party, says that elections are "not the answer"? Maybe he should first frame the question, then offer a solution. Clearly not the best, nor the brightest, so much for the allure of an Old Etonian. You can go to jail in Thailand you know, for associating with political groups defining what you want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Calimotty Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 The man is the ultimate clown,, should get mum and dad to buy him a circus tent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Even Khaosod can't colour Abhisit's words. They are just too carefully chosen. Abhisit is right. You can't enter an election under the current divisions and expect anything other than February 2 all over again. In a way, one has the naughty desire for Pheu Thai's supporters to get their wish and see what would happen in the event of an election where presumably the vote was not blocked. Do they not realize that Bangkok and the South would deliver strong " no " pluralities that would overwhelm local candidacies ? Forget a 95 % quorum. An 80 % quorum would be utterly out of reach. And what would their argument be then ? There is no escaping it - at the end of the day - Pheu Thai is going to have to sit down and talk. In other words, the last thing they like doing. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigbamboo Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ohhh Khun Abhisit is scared of losing again. But maybe not as scared of losing as Thaksin is? Ideally Suthep's mixed efforts will bring about some much needed reforms but there must be an election a.s.a.p. after that. Nice response at the end to Thaksin's weary old line about quitting politics for the good of the country. He must have quit more often than Sinatra. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rich teacher Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Abhisit, waiting in the wings, ready to pounce on a chance to seize power without a mandate just like in 2008. Almost, but not fully supporting Suthep, paying lip service to elections, but doing his best to obstruct the democratic process. Nothing but a manipulative little slime-ball, born with a silver-spoon in his mouth, put there by his father, a government minister in a military junta. Like father, like son. When Abhisit was installed as PM by Commander in Chief, Anupong Poachinda, he promptly appointed his own father as director of Charoen Pokphand Foods, Thailands largest agribusiness firm. Abhisit's government presided over a 63% increase in unemployment and the largest budget deficit since the Chuan administration. "I'm not ready for an election, but I'm ready to be PM" "Me too" 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thaksin will be pleased to hear there is still a chance of a coup, he has been doing his best to goad the army into one for a long time. Wrong for Abhisit to mention it for it will give the reds incentive to cause as much trouble as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketnut Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Not sure if this chap understands how silly he sounds when he, as the the head of the Democratic party, says that elections are "not the answer"? Maybe he should first frame the question, then offer a solution. Clearly not the best, nor the brightest, so much for the allure of an Old Etonian. You can go to jail in Thailand you know, for associating with political groups defining what you want to hear. A leader? How did he last get into power. Connect with the people and play ball Abhisit, at the moment your just fanning the flames to another murder charge. Goose. Next....Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE 8.2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketnut Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Even Khaosod can't colour Abhisit's words. They are just too carefully chosen. Abhisit is right. You can't enter an election under the current divisions and expect anything other than February 2 all over again. In a way, one has the naughty desire for Pheu Thai's supporters to get their wish and see what would happen in the event of an election where presumably the vote was not blocked. Do they not realize that Bangkok and the South would deliver strong " no " pluralities that would overwhelm local candidacies ? Forget a 95 % quorum. An 80 % quorum would be utterly out of reach. And what would their argument be then ? There is no escaping it - at the end of the day - Pheu Thai is going to have to sit down and talk. In other words, the last thing they like doing. yes we're all listening scamper.Sent from my i-mobile i-STYLE 8.2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icare999 Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? what a stupid naive comment if you don't realise by now the hatred towards Taksin and his regime amongst many Thais is so great unless Taksin and his regime change to do whats best for country and not them this will just continue and in end their will almost certainly be a coup thank goodness since thats far better than letting Taksin his regime and clan steal Thailand blind and turn it into his own one party state Watch and learn and you'll see Watch and learn How naive can you get to think without setting his red shirts for total civil war Taksin is never going to be able again to ;ike in 2006 get away with even trying to make here his own one party state like Hitlers germany Pol pot or rest Unless of course he has managed to buy the army as he's bought so many others and don't giver me please that twaddle about elections here Ive lived here 30+ years and this regime is worst ever and most corrupt by far. Previous were content with 10% graft and did not want to turn this country into their own serfdom then retired gracefully with their ill gotten gains. Not perfect but not before so different than west's corruption I assume your just very young or brainwashed or of same ilk as those who in 60's thought communism was great or those who supported without any understanding likes of pol pot Mugabwie etc. Cuba under Castro is only place I know where a dictator really did care for his people and not like vile Taksin and his ilk weather you agreed with his methods or not Grow up if you can and watch and learn 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketnut Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? There seems to be little interest in the trumped up murder charges which most agree wont fly, most are still waiting for answers as to why thaksin a convicted criminal on the run was issued a passport. A corrupt judicial system of course.. NextSent from my i-mobile i-STYLE 8.2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 what a loser, still no solutions, just some mumbling about a "discussion". whats he still doing in politics, he is doing more damage than good, besides shouldn't he be preparing his defense for the murder charges he is up against ? There seems to be little interest in the trumped up murder charges which most agree wont fly, most are still waiting for answers as to why thaksin a convicted criminal on the run was issued a passport. A corrupt judicial system of course.. NextSent from my i-mobile i-STYLE 8.2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app So corrupt that they refused to take Thaksins pastry box bribe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The man is the ultimate clown,, should get mum and dad to buy him a circus tent. Big secondhand one for sale--ex PTP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post icare999 Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thaksin will be pleased to hear there is still a chance of a coup, he has been doing his best to goad the army into one for a long time. Wrong for Abhisit to mention it for it will give the reds incentive to cause as much trouble as possible. unless Taksin has bought off army the red shirts will run like their cowardly hero as fast as they can as soon as army decide enough is enough and unlike last time they wont wait IMO. Also judging by their latest attempts at rallies etc it seems Taksin's money is a little rationed to pay for it all these dyads apart from fact that some (not many yet) previous supporters of their god Taksin are waking up and smelling the coffee. In my red shirt village for first time in around 8 years theirs less and less Taksin posters and some have even dared take down their red shirt flags fro their houses. We for years have been only house without a forced red shirt flag and only got away with that because I'm a forang. My wives relatives name area have stated they dare not do likewise for fear of retribution Red shirts and great you support them 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Very democratic solution. Elections are not the answer! Quite sad if this is the best person this party can find as a leader! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Thaksin will be pleased to hear there is still a chance of a coup, he has been doing his best to goad the army into one for a long time. Wrong for Abhisit to mention it for it will give the reds incentive to cause as much trouble as possible. unless Taksin has bought off army the red shirts will run like their cowardly hero as fast as they can as soon as army decide enough is enough and unlike last time they wont wait IMO. Also judging by their latest attempts at rallies etc it seems Taksin's money is a little rationed to pay for it all these dyads apart from fact that some (not many yet) previous supporters of their god Taksin are waking up and smelling the coffee. In my red shirt village for first time in around 8 years theirs less and less Taksin posters and some have even dared take down their red shirt flags fro their houses. We for years have been only house without a forced red shirt flag and only got away with that because I'm a forang. My wives relatives name area have stated they dare not do likewise for fear of retribution Red shirts and great you support them Take a breath, you can't be doing your blood pressure any good............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Even Khaosod can't colour Abhisit's words. They are just too carefully chosen. Abhisit is right. You can't enter an election under the current divisions and expect anything other than February 2 all over again. In a way, one has the naughty desire for Pheu Thai's supporters to get their wish and see what would happen in the event of an election where presumably the vote was not blocked. Do they not realize that Bangkok and the South would deliver strong " no " pluralities that would overwhelm local candidacies ? Forget a 95 % quorum. An 80 % quorum would be utterly out of reach. And what would their argument be then ? There is no escaping it - at the end of the day - Pheu Thai is going to have to sit down and talk. In other words, the last thing they like doing. no it would not: if there are 2 candidates the no votes have no effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Ohhh Khun Abhisit is scared of losing again. Again and again and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ohhh Khun Abhisit is scared of losing again. Whoever wins.......everyone loses! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Election is not theanswer for Thailand. Go read Animal Farm by George Orwell and you will know why. Most Thai are like the sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungmi Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Lance Armstrong won 7 times the Tour de France. Thaksin's Parties won the elections and have been disqualified (sometimes) The Dems only want an Antidoping System for the next elections. Edited April 21, 2014 by lungmi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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