Kanga Japan Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 SAO WAROT and KA TOK ROK FARANG are listed as passion fruits. Are they the same type of passion fruits, same colour? According to my research: 1. SAO WA;ROT has the scientific name Passiflora Edulis. 2. KA TOK ROK has the scientific name Passiflora foetida (stinking passion flower). 3. KA TOK ROK FARANG - haven't got a clue about the scientific name. Can anyone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Just had a browse through the Uni of Melbourne website. http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Passiflora.html It has 3 with common Thai names. Passiflora quadrangularis L.- สุคนธรส Su khon tharot (Bangkok). Passiflora laurifolia L. - Sawa rot. Passiflora edulis Sims. - Lin mang kon, Ling mang kon, Saowarot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Japan Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Dear Farma, Thank you for that. Actually, I already saw that site, but I still don't know what type of passion fruit KA TOK ROK FARANG is. I appreciate your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 are you missing Nelly Kelly passion fruit? I've not seen it here yet it grew magnificently in South Sulawesi, Indonesia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Japan Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Dear Masuk, Nelly Kelly passion fruit?? Never heard of that. Interesting name. Actually, I am only researching the names of passion fruits in Thailand. I am still trying to find out whether SAO WAROT and KA TOK ROK FARANG are the same passion fruit, the same colour and also the scientific name of KA TOK ROK FARANG. Thank you anyway for the new information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Dear Masuk, Nelly Kelly passion fruit?? Never heard of that. Interesting name. Actually, I am only researching the names of passion fruits in Thailand. I am still trying to find out whether SAO WAROT and KA TOK ROK FARANG are the same passion fruit, the same colour and also the scientific name of KA TOK ROK FARANG. Thank you anyway for the new information. Nellie Kelly is the most popular passion fruit around Australia. http://www.nelliekelly.com.au/faqs-about-passionfruit-vines.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Japan Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Dear Masuk, Thanks for the information on Nelly Kelly passion fruit. I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't know of it, being an Aussie myself. Been too long in Japan I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyG Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 The first sentence of the Thai Wikipedia article gives four different names for Passiflora edulis. 1 & 3 in your original posting are synonyms.http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passiflora_edulis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacoal Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) 1 Passiflora edulis Sims เบญจวรรณ Ben chawan, กะทกรกฝรั่ง Kra thok rok farang (Bangkok, Chiang Mai) PASSIFLORACEAE2 Passiflora foetida L. กะทกรก Ka thok rok, รก Rok (Central); กระโปรงทอง Kra prong thong (Peninsular); เครือขนตาช้าง Khruea khon ta chang (Si Sa Ket); ตำลึงฝรั่ง Tam lueng farang (Chonburi); เถาเงาะ Thao ngo, เถาสิงโต Thao sing to (Chai Nat); ผักขี้หิด Phak khi hit (Loei); ผักแค PASSIFLORACEAE 3 Passiflora edulis Sims เบญจวรรณ Ben chawan, กะทกรกฝรั่ง Kra thok rok farang (Bangkok, Chiang Mai) PASSIFLORACEAE 4 Passiflora foetida L. กะทกรก Ka thok rok, รก Rok (Central); กระโปรงทอง Kra prong thong (Peninsular); เครือขนตาช้าง Khruea khon ta chang (Si Sa Ket); ตำลึงฝรั่ง Tam lueng farang (Chonburi); เถาเงาะ Thao ngo, เถาสิงโต Thao sing to (Chai Nat); ผักขี้หิด Phak khi hit (Loei); ผักแค http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic_book%20full%20option/search.asp?txtsearch=Passiflora&bnsearch=Search Edited May 2, 2014 by Wacoal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I've never seen Passion fruit here. We used to love vodka and Passion fruit juice back in the UK... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanga Japan Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Dear Heavy Drinker, I don't live in Thailand, but from the research I have been doing on a dictionary I am working on, there appears to be at least 4 types of passion fruits available in Thailand. Good luck finding them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I've never seen Passion fruit here. We used to love vodka and Passion fruit juice back in the UK... I had them in the garden, had to get rid of them. Grow like weeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whgthai Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Also looking for passionfruit, never seen them at any supermarket. Any ideas where one can buy them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 When we were in Sa Kaeo province there were passionfruit at many of the fresh fruit markets; I tracked one source, a commercial operation in amphur Khao Chakan, let us pick our own for 20b per kilo Here in Chanthaburi, where so much fruit is grown, have only seen them for sale 3 times, small quantities, at a fruit market guess just a private grower, 25-30b per kilo. I buy any that I can and freeze it. I do not know the variety/ies; about twice the size/volume of the ones I once grew in NZ. Large yellow fruit compared to the purple skinned ones we had in NZ, and a little sweeter too. Must be a lot of differences in the varieties - I was living in Wellington/NZ and the fruit were picked about time of first winter frosts, May/June. I was reminded of the prices in June this year when in NZ - in Auckland the New World supermarket chain was selling them at NZ $39.95 per kilo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 In our little circle, one doesn't find many Thai's who can stand the acidic strength of the passionfruit. Been making a habit of taking passionfruits to the temple for the Monk. He doesn't really like it for himself, but hoes into them, and none are left over for the people to eat later. He does this, as he wants the skins for making his medicine, and can't go through the trash to retrieve them once the crowd has got to them. I wonder if you can get those big Panama Passionfruits in BKK these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyG Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 In our little circle, one doesn't find many Thai's who can stand the acidic strength of the passionfruit. Been making a habit of taking passionfruits to the temple for the Monk. He doesn't really like it for himself, but hoes into them, and none are left over for the people to eat later. He does this, as he wants the skins for making his medicine, and can't go through the trash to retrieve them once the crowd has got to them. I wonder if you can get those big Panama Passionfruits in BKK these days? Passion fruit isn't an appropriate gift for a monk. Because of the seeds they shouldn't eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak sa_ngop Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I bought a big bag of passion fruit in Tops supermarket -Silom Complex- last week. About 12 fruits in the bag. About 120 baht. In a bar in Phnom Penh they make their Phnom Penh Sling cocktail scooping out the contents of 2 fruits plus other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 In our little circle, one doesn't find many Thai's who can stand the acidic strength of the passionfruit. Been making a habit of taking passionfruits to the temple for the Monk. He doesn't really like it for himself, but hoes into them, and none are left over for the people to eat later. He does this, as he wants the skins for making his medicine, and can't go through the trash to retrieve them once the crowd has got to them. I wonder if you can get those big Panama Passionfruits in BKK these days? Passion fruit isn't an appropriate gift for a monk. Because of the seeds they shouldn't eat it. ...yes, but the Monk now is expecting them each time we go temple: 9 passionfruits, one fresh coconut for drink, 6 salted duck eggs and a bottle of Aloe Vera water in addition to all the other stuff wifey had been up hours earlier cooking... As soon as he lays eyes on them, he knows I have come along that morning - as they're my job to prepare... apparently he prefers how I make his coffee too He grows his own Pomegranates out the back, along with 2 Fig trees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyG Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 In our little circle, one doesn't find many Thai's who can stand the acidic strength of the passionfruit. Been making a habit of taking passionfruits to the temple for the Monk. He doesn't really like it for himself, but hoes into them, and none are left over for the people to eat later. He does this, as he wants the skins for making his medicine, and can't go through the trash to retrieve them once the crowd has got to them. I wonder if you can get those big Panama Passionfruits in BKK these days? Passion fruit isn't an appropriate gift for a monk. Because of the seeds they shouldn't eat it. ...yes, but the Monk now is expecting them each time we go temple: 9 passionfruits, one fresh coconut for drink, 6 salted duck eggs and a bottle of Aloe Vera water in addition to all the other stuff wifey had been up hours earlier cooking... As soon as he lays eyes on them, he knows I have come along that morning - as they're my job to prepare... apparently he prefers how I make his coffee too He grows his own Pomegranates out the back, along with 2 Fig trees... Time to change temple, methinks. It's absolutely inappropriate for a monk to expect anything. He should accept whatever's offered. Some monks will mix up all the food they're offered to make a ghastly mess because they're not supposed to enjoy food - it's mere sustenance. This monk certainly isn't of that ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 well, he's actually severely Diabetic, and so is right into the fruits. But the main focus is that he's getting the types of fruits that he makes big batches of trad' medicines from, for: a. concoctions he prepares and blesses for an temple-inhouse laos Doctor here, and b. a post-therapy herbal sauna annex, which for the gas heated steam barrel - there's an interesting mix of fruit skins, eucalypts etc that really takes your breath away feel really good afterward though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Big C Extra in Pattaya Klang often has passionfruit. Not sure what variety or how much, but will pop down tomorrow or Monday and check. gomangsteen - 1,000 baht a kilo??? Wow. Was in Chch and Dunedin last December, but didn't check prices too closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 gomangsteen - 1,000 baht a kilo??? Wow. Was in Chch and Dunedin last December, but didn't check prices too closely. You wouldn't expect to see any on sale in December? Generally the NZ season is about the start of first frosts in the north island, May/June each year. House I once owned (Wellington) one garden fence was well covered by passionfruit vines, they did well there - sheltered from high winds but still close to south coast/sea air which didn't seem to bother them. Price I quoted was Auckland New World supermarket chain - think they'd have been grown in that region/upper NI most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laochef Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Tons of passion fruits here in Laos - a tad less than 2 US$ a kilo...Sweet and not to acidic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Passionfruit - flavour of the day! Today went to a horticulture education centre (Khung Kraben Royal Development Study Centre) on the Chanthaburi coast - display crops to encourage diversification by showing what will grow well in local conditions Passionfruit! Less than 100m from the sea, Gulf of Thailand, minimal shelter between them and the coast/salt water, and the vines and fruit appeared healthy Edited August 18, 2014 by gomangosteen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomangosteen Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Passionfruit alert! check your local fresh fruit markets . . . we were in Sa Kaeo province over NY, large yellow-skinned passionfruit selling at markets 30b/kilo, back home now Chanthaburi and must be their high season, local markets have them 35-40 baht/kilo, was told these ones are grown a little inland at Phlio about 15km south-east of Chan city, 5-6km in from the coast. Love 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeichen Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Often the names are used interchangably but katot lok are more yellow and sour. the darker skin ones are saurrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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