Thaiberius Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 "I'm the kind of guy who always gets what he wants in life and thus Im determined to make this plan succeed...." The rules change in Thailand I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 "I'm the kind of guy who always gets what he wants in life and thus Im determined to make this plan succeed...." The rules change in Thailand I'm afraid. so the question is,will he get IT,repeat,will he get HIT.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will2011 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Does your gf interfere with your problems? It's not a question of thai or not thai, but thats simply not your problem. If legally solved, this situation would cost far more than thb 9,000, meaning that you would lose money in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiberius Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 One thing is certain, you won't be told the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ClutchClark Posted May 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Originally I was very much agsinst the OP pursuing this covert op but after thinking it through a bit further and seeing some of the wild antics on here with some swarthy ex-SAS type fellows trying to recruit a posse (or find a date for the evening?), this is shaping up to be far better entertainment than anything on the telly. So from here on, mate, I fully support your ideas in the OP on the condition you keep us fully appraised of each step and result...something like a nightly mini-series. Perhaps a bit less Bond than you imagine yourself but thats quite alright...Inspector Clouseau was greatly entertaining as well. Cheers Edited May 11, 2014 by ClutchClark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAceFace Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Why don't you ask a bunch of strangers on an internet forum what you should do Either man up and ask him yourself. Ask Daddy for help. Tell your missus to sort it. 9 g's shsssssss you must be skint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 OP, without trying to be dramatic, have you thought about the possible after effects of retrieving the 9,000 baht if you are successful? This is not written as scare-mongering, but something to seriously consider. If it was 90,000 or 900,000 baht, then yes, go for it. For 9,000? Give the GF 9,000 baht, lesson learned and get on with your lives. Dump the recording devices and disguises, far too hot to be role-modeling in this country................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cup-O-coffee Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 This is about as senseless as listing all of her regrets, setbacks and all the bad things that have been done to her and are owed to her, and then spending the remainder of your life endeavoring to rectify everything. Why just this one thing? Stop being senselessand move on.That is a part of her past; not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoklasse Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 You really like to do illegal things and then try to bribe the cops? To get 9k baht for your GF in something thats not your business in the first place. It's rather funny when you say it's not the money it's the principle. So you are doing illegat stuff and paying of the cops out of principle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Show us you have balls visit him ask him for 9,000 baht and if he doesn't pay break his legs I will be glad to go with you Maybe other members will go also ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes we are all right behind you----Like a pack of hungry wolves.......... don't look now though just go on in, we've got your back........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeycountry Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) 9000 Baht debt. Spending 10, 000 baht on various recording devices and numerous trips to and fro the dealership, numerous phone calls and plans between family ......... PRICELESS. There's more than one way to skin a cat but how much is it going to cost you in the process? (read her). Best of luck by the way but I was just sayin to throw an unemotional view into the mix. Actually, it cost 2,000 not 10k and certainly not specifically purchased for this issue. Its duly noted that my gf's father has what one might call high status in this community and thus I speculate that the police will believe the story beyond reasonable doubt. I wonder if at the end of step 2 if the guy refuses to pay, her father could reveal the device and play back the first conversation. Then say to him if he doesnt pay up right now that they will go to the police. It might scare the guy and thus negate step 3 all together. I know its not a lot of money but its the principle of the matter. Please see post#5. It is a civil matter, not a criminal matter, hence the police cannot (and will not) do anything about it, no matter how much evidence you have. Technically she would need bring the evidence, if any, to a lawyer, who can then bring it to a civil court, but that will cost her alot more than 9k, even if she wins. Your GF can involve her family, and that might work, but you do not need recording devices or evidence for that. The good news is, if it only cost your GF 9k to learn the lesson not to "lend" money to ANYONE, then it is a fairly cheap lesson, even for a Thai. Edited May 14, 2014 by monkeycountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioc Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Step 0 - put it down to a lesson learned, write it off and move one.....its only 9k your a rich farang Perfectly said Soutpeel! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louse1953 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Stopped reading after step 1.Get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredKroket Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Grow up James Bond, get over it and move on before you end in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 9000 Baht debt. Spending 10, 000 baht on various recording devices and numerous trips to and fro the dealership, numerous phone calls and plans between family ......... PRICELESS. There's more than one way to skin a cat but how much is it going to cost you in the process? (read her). Best of luck by the way but I was just sayin to throw an unemotional view into the mix. Actually, it cost 2,000 not 10k and certainly not specifically purchased for this issue. Its duly noted that my gf's father has what one might call high status in this community and thus I speculate that the police will believe the story beyond reasonable doubt. I wonder if at the end of step 2 if the guy refuses to pay, her father could reveal the device and play back the first conversation. Then say to him if he doesnt pay up right now that they will go to the police. It might scare the guy and thus negate step 3 all together. I know its not a lot of money but its the principle of the matter. Please see post#5. It is a civil matter, not a criminal matter, hence the police cannot (and will not) do anything about it, no matter how much evidence you have. Technically she would need bring the evidence, if any, to a lawyer, who can then bring it to a civil court, but that will cost her alot more than 9k, even if she wins. Your GF can involve her family, and that might work, but you do not need recording devices or evidence for that. The good news is, if it only cost your GF 9k to learn the lesson not to "lend" money to ANYONE, then it is a fairly cheap lesson, even for a Thai. police can intervene in almost every type of altercation or mediate any dispute if there is money involved in thailand ,the law doesnt really come into it when deciding who pays who in many cases find a couple of uniforms who look bored and offer them 50% to "collect it " and it keeps you from getting directly in harms way ............although half of 9k is probably nothing to a cop thesedays esp if its in bkk or pattaya but i a village they might jump at the opportuity to get 4500thb for a quick chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos989 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 photos of the gf would help me derive the best path forward.....feel free to pm if said photos are too revealing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Forget it, lesson learned, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbmcn Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 fuggetaboutit. Do not get involved as it can only lead to grief. Seriously. IMRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfaroukh Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Not sure what the law is in here. In some countries even the recording is consider useless and can not be used against the person. Try to find out if it is allowed here. As someone said here do you really think it is worth going after this paying half to police, other cost etc??? Is it really about the money or just because you feel bad a Thai guy ripped you off and it is your pride which is hurting you?? Finally here is Thailand and you know loosing face means a lot. You never know how this gay will react to the whole thing. If you still fell it is worth it then carry on. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubaiIsCalling Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 It does not mean you are scared if you just back off and advice GF to get over it and waive it....... before you know for a relatively small amount you arrive in Big Times Lunatic Actions. He gets pissed because a Farang involved, lost of face (again) because you are with his ex. A Yabaa pill on the corner and he courageously comes to you to 'talk it out'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapfries Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I sympathize with your frustrations, but there are a few things you should know: 1. The lawful Statute of Limitations, in this matter, is probably 3 months; hence your g/f is acting way too late 2. It is illegal to record a conversation without the express approval of the third party And, like a number of posters already stated;we're not talking about a huge sum of money; although I agree that it is the principle of the matter. However; you can also be sure that this perpetrator has just added some serious bad karma to his destiny - and even though this may not make you feel better, it probably will. Chalk it up to experience and, as we say in good old Holland "keep the honor on your side" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeon Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Black Ops time........ Sent from my SM-P605 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandasloan Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I guess because the Op's acting like Donald Sterling's Ex, that he must be American. In most countries, unless the authoriies record you or you've consented to be recorded, the recording isn't worth jack crap. OR it's worth charges at the police station for illegal wiretapping which, in Thailand, it definitely is. Or both. The plan to get the police involved is total, completely corruption. There is nothing criminal that has happened. Until Jane turns on Machoman's recorder, THEN it's criminal. You could probably hire a policeman as intimidator, don't think he'd be too happy involved in an actual crime, though. And finally, more advisers should have noted the very, very distinct possibility Mr Ratbird will become incensed when confronted over this debt, and even if he comes up with a payment scheme, he'll be figuring out several other ways to get his 9,000 baht's worth. If all of the above is worth the principle of standing up for a girl who does not want standing up for, then away you go. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinmaew Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 "how much of the money do you think we should pay the police for helping us" This is why Thailand is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 "how much of the money do you think we should pay the police for helping us" This is why Thailand is what it is. wrong -farangs are hardly responsible for making thailand corrupt have a look at this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Undertakers...love people like you...we are talking about a 9000 baht...unsecured debt...with only two people's word as to whether it is really owed or not...you are indeed meddling... stay out of this...do not offer anymore of your farang's perspective... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 9000 Baht debt. Spending 10, 000 baht on various recording devices and numerous trips to and fro the dealership, numerous phone calls and plans between family ......... PRICELESS. There's more than one way to skin a cat but how much is it going to cost you in the process? (read her). Best of luck by the way but I was just sayin to throw an unemotional view into the mix. Actually, it cost 2,000 not 10k and certainly not specifically purchased for this issue. Its duly noted that my gf's father has what one might call high status in this community and thus I speculate that the police will believe the story beyond reasonable doubt. I wonder if at the end of step 2 if the guy refuses to pay, her father could reveal the device and play back the first conversation. Then say to him if he doesnt pay up right now that they will go to the police. It might scare the guy and thus negate step 3 all together. I know its not a lot of money but its the principle of the matter. Well, if indeed, "She has been too ashamed to raise the issue with her family thus far. She has really high integrity and educated etc." and, "my gf's father has what one might call high status in this community," what makes you think your wife, her father and her brother would even want to get involved in your dubious plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Gold Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Drop it, live and learn, 9,000 baht isn't worth it. If you're one of those who want to do it "for the principle", here is principle number 1: confrontation never works in Thailand, only shrewdness does, and shrewdness is best learnt the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DekDaeng Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 9000 Baht debt. Spending 10, 000 baht on various recording devices and numerous trips to and fro the dealership, numerous phone calls and plans between family ......... PRICELESS. There's more than one way to skin a cat but how much is it going to cost you in the process? (read her). Best of luck by the way but I was just sayin to throw an unemotional view into the mix. "10, 000 baht on various recording devices" Any decent half smart phone has digital record - send half the 10,000 I just saved you to me at P. O. Box ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrimpythailand Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 whatever you do - don;t let the used car salesman see you - gf can record using a mobile unless you already bought the pen recorder...but also be careful - remeber the taxi driver who killed the falung on suk soi 50 for a 51bt cab fare? but for the principle of it - yes must want to do it - don;t force her to get into a fight with a used car shark over 9000 bt.... i have "given more than that away in "loans" to thai friends and family and you can't ever expect to get paid back... the company gardner asked for 3000 bt one year for school for his kid - i would have taken 300 bt a month for 10 months - but after 6 months went by I asked the boss to get it paid back - on principle - which it was finally...anyway - would maybe be better if gf and dad and brother went all togeher first time and got it figured out once... again - only if they all want to do it.... sounds like a verbal deal over a 2nd hand car sale... which should have been taken care of whenever the car was sold and at that time.... memory is getting shorter on this planet with a lot of people - me included...... 5 5 5 good luck ... rule number 164 here : Never do any money dealings with anyone here without having something on paper and signed by both parties.... have more stories but just too much to type... crazy stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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