webfact Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Sihasak clarifies human trafficking situation to USBANGKOK, 17 June 2014 (NNT) – The Permanent-Secretary of Foreign Affairs Sihasak Phuangketkaew reiterated Thailand’s commitment to tackle human-trafficking in the country ahead of the release of the annual human rights report by the US State Department.Following a meeting with US ambassador to Thailand Kristie Kenney, Mr. Sihasak said the Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report will reflect Thailand’s efforts in bringing human traffickers to justice over the past years.Thailand has been ranked as a Tier 2 watch-list country for four consecutive years, and if no progress is reported in the past year, it may slip to Tier 3.Mr. Sihasak added that the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) has prioritized the issue among other reforms implemented in the country. Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes.Mrs. Kenney also expressed satisfaction over the NCPO’s three-stage plan to restore peace and to set up an election in the near future. -- NNT 2014-06-17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TimCM Posted June 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2014 The situation is, Thailand supports trafficking as long as certain people can make money out of it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) This is an Al Jazera report from 2008 concerning Burmese slaves working on Thai fishing boats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKsZ8dqZB8&feature=player_detailpage#t=10 Edited June 17, 2014 by Lancelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggold Posted June 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2014 Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes. Has anyone heard about this? Can't be true, it's never been mentioned on TV before!!! I would have thought the Navy would be falling over them selves to publicise these facts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pib Posted June 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2014 Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes. Has anyone heard about this? Can't be true, it's never been mentioned on TV before!!! I would have thought the Navy would be falling over them selves to publicise these facts. And 200 convictions times 500 baht fines is a lot of money. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Kristie Kenney expresses "satisfaction" over NCPO's plan. Shameful of her and US people should be informed immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chotthee Posted June 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father. I remember that one 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted June 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father. But the USA consumer is your grandad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes. Has anyone heard about this? Can't be true, it's never been mentioned on TV before!!! I would have thought the Navy would be falling over them selves to publicise these facts. I too wondered about that little factoid of 200 convictions. Not to be funny, but what does a conviction actually mean here? Suspended sentence? 500 baht fine? Moved to an inactive post? Or released on their own recognizance? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father. But the USA consumer is your grandad. Not sure what that means... So slavery on Thai ships is the fault of consumers in the USA? And if by magic all US consumers stop purchasing slave produced shrimp, the problem will end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kmj Posted June 17, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father. The Thais called the meeting with her, she didnt call them... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Either you are trafficking or you are not , on this occasion anything in between is of no importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father.But the USA consumer is your grandad. Not sure what that means... So slavery on Thai ships is the fault of consumers in the USA? And if by magic all US consumers stop purchasing slave produced shrimp, the problem will end? No. But if the USA consumer tells you they would prefer their fish not caught and cleaned by slaves, you had better to do it, if you would like to sell to them. Thai agribusiness conglomerates would like very much to continue selling to the UsA I am sure. So the USA consumer is the king of consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father.But the USA consumer is your grandad. Not sure what that means... So slavery on Thai ships is the fault of consumers in the USA? And if by magic all US consumers stop purchasing slave produced shrimp, the problem will end? It would probably be a step in the right direction if there was some form of consumer action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes. Has anyone heard about this? Can't be true, it's never been mentioned on TV before!!! I would have thought the Navy would be falling over them selves to publicise these facts. interesting how its always even numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father.But the USA consumer is your grandad. Not sure what that means... So slavery on Thai ships is the fault of consumers in the USA? And if by magic all US consumers stop purchasing slave produced shrimp, the problem will end? It would probably be a step in the right direction if there was some form of consumer action. The average US consumer doesn't know about this. If some non-profits started buying TV time asking consumers to boycott Thailand, they would immediately. Voter pressure would stop the US from selling and giving military hardware to Thailand. The US has the world's 3rd largest population, by far the world's largest economy, and is the 2nd largest buyer of Thai exports. Link It also does a lot of manufacturing in Thailand. Thailand has good reason to worry, and therefore called this meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The situation is, Thailand supports trafficking as long as certain people can make money out of it. The certain people are being weeded out. Give it time. Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes. Has anyone heard about this? Can't be true, it's never been mentioned on TV before!!! I would have thought the Navy would be falling over them selves to publicise these facts. I too wondered about that little factoid of 200 convictions. Not to be funny, but what does a conviction actually mean here? Suspended sentence? 500 baht fine? Moved to an inactive post? Or released on their own recognizance? What is the difference between retirement and an "inactive post" Do they both get money and do nothing. I am talking about Western retirement. Like I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Over 200 people have been convicted in 400 cases involving human trafficking crimes. Has anyone heard about this? Can't be true, it's never been mentioned on TV before!!! I would have thought the Navy would be falling over them selves to publicise these facts. True I have heard nothing about it either. I am not sure the Navy would want to publicize that they had been that involved in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 USA is not Thailand's father. nor is it USA's "girlfriend". If USA doesn't want to trade with Thailand because of Thailand's indifference to slavery and trafficking, that is USA choice. Been given plenty of chances to clean up and if didn't then don't complain if USA follows up on sanctions. You made your bed now lay in it. We will take our business elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usual Suspect Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 All this sounds same-same as Tesco's response to the slave labour on the fishing boats..the USA tells Thailand they're not happy & want things changing..now! Thailand replies with a B.S.answer & shock-horror the good ole US believes it..! (Same-same as Tesco getting a report back from here that after a spate thorough inspections NO slave labour is being practiced in Thailand for the production of the seafood products we send to you.)..TiT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Perhaps it might be more of the recent cases of US bussiness's trafficking thai nationals? Pot kettle and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 All this sounds same-same as Tesco's response to the slave labour on the fishing boats..the USA tells Thailand they're not happy & want things changing..now! Thailand replies with a B.S.answer & shock-horror the good ole US believes it..! (Same-same as Tesco getting a report back from here that after a spate thorough inspections NO slave labour is being practiced in Thailand for the production of the seafood products we send to you.)..TiT Tesco didn't say that at all.They said they don't control the entire supply chain so it's hard to find, but that they will try to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokay Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 As an American, I will say that Kenney is a disgrace if she believes that nonsense and supports a dictatorship. If she wants to be a prostitute for the Thais, she should go work the streets outside of Nana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimCM Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> The situation is, Thailand supports trafficking as long as certain people can make money out of it. The certain people are being weeded out. Give it time. Really. There is no evidence of this claim anywhere. Besides, the people you claim are weeding are the same ones accused of being involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Could you imagine the USA, UK, Australia, all doing a sixty minute hour simultaneously the reaction it would get... And yes I know there has been some BBC and ABC fishing boat stories told, but hey if they are serious then don't pull any punches, and tell about the others as well like the Lao, Cambodian, Burmese, people forced drug mules, sex slaves, the factory workers paid a small portion of the correct salary any complaints they removed. Vote with your wallets, it worked with caned tuna, ( dolphin safe ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I agree it would be good if US consumers refused to buy shrimp harvested by companies using slave labor. However, other nations eat shrimp too, how about consumers in the European Union? And if the US and EU refused to buy, how about Chinese and Russian consumers? My point is that consumers world wide also have a responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Nothing to clarify: It is still happening!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 This would be a good time for the Thai Navy to drop all its slander lawsuits against Reuters and its reporters as a show of good faith towards stopping human trafficking in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drand11 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 As an American, I will say that Kenney is a disgrace if she believes that nonsense and supports a dictatorship. If she wants to be a prostitute for the Thais, she should go work the streets outside of Nana. She simply said she was satisfied with the answers regarding the Junta's plans, not that the USA agrees with the situation. Any real democracy can't possibly support the never ending Thai Coups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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