webfact Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 50-year-old elephant killed for tusks in AyutthayaBANGKOK: -- A 50-year-old elephant was drugged to death in Ayutthaya Thursday night and the assailants saw off its tusks.Its mahout, Phan Salangarm, told police that he left the elephant chained by a river in the evening came back to find it dead Friday morning.He said the elephant was apparently killed by a highly poisonous substance.-- The Nation 2014-07-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Local Drunk Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 Saw off the arms and legs of the people that did this... It's sickening! 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryp Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 terrible ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 I can only hope the NCPO as the army is on to this case asap. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h90 Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomyummer Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 The mahout forgot to add first that he was paid to leave his elephant chained by the river and told not to come back till morning. There's no way these mahouts would leave their elephants out of sight. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Why does this not surprise me greed is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SOMeTOM Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 Don't worry! Whoever did it, will make merit tomorrow morning giving food to the monks on their knees and then it will be back on his usual stuff (killing,stealing,whatever it goes etc) again, you got to love the true "thainess" here...sabai sabai. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... You can do better than that! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... The topic is the senseless slaughter of what must have been a magnificent animal with a set of tusks worth stealing. I am sure many members here feel the same way as you about cruel slaughterhouse methods. I wonder whether you, as a "carnivore member", have made any progress against this cruel treatment of meat animals? Back to topic, as one other mentioned, why was the elephant left unattended at night on its own? It should have been in a secured location if it had any value. Perhaps he can claim on the insurance with the owner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UbonRatch Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 The mahout forgot to add first that he was paid to leave his elephant chained by the river and told not to come back till morning. There's no way these mahouts would leave their elephants out of sight. Exactly the same crossed my mind. These mahouts sleep with their elephants; they are their bread and butter. I hope the tusks are located, and then the mahout can live with his sin in some forgotten place, and without his financial gains. This was in Ayudhya, for god's sake, not the outback. Left by a river for the night my arse. It does not happen... unless there is motive! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Ayutthaya elephant poisoned for ivoryBy Digital ContentAYUTTHAYA, July 11 -- A male elephant was found dead inside the compound of the Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal in this central province today, and the authorities believe the elephant was poisoned for its ivory.Police officers from Ayutthaya Police Station inspected the scene at Suan Prik subdistrict, Phra Nakhon Sri Ayutthaya district, finding a male elephant named Klao, age 50, dead near a small woods, next to the elephant kraal. Both of its tusks were cut off and taken away.The tusks were about 5-6 inches in diameter. Police believe the elephant was dead for at least 9-10 hours before being discovered.The authorities surmised that the suspects must have drugged the elephant during the night and waited until it fell before cutting away its tusks.Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal owner Laithongrian Meephan said the deceased elephant came to live at the camp in 1999, but was kept for only special occasions as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant.The owner said each tusk have been at least 1 metre in length.He pleaded for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to help with the case, as the council has asked for cooperation in restraining from possessing weapons, making it difficult to keep the culprits at bay.At present, the police are inspecting whether the elephant was poisoned, and will track the suspects to ensure success in making an arrest. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2014-07-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabphil Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Ayutthaya elephant poisoned for ivory By Digital Content AYUTTHAYA, July 11 -- A male elephant was found dead inside the compound of the Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal in this central province today, and the authorities believe the elephant was poisoned for its ivory. Police officers from Ayutthaya Police Station inspected the scene at Suan Prik subdistrict, Phra Nakhon Sri Ayutthaya district, finding a male elephant named Klao, age 50, dead near a small woods, next to the elephant kraal. Both of its tusks were cut off and taken away. The tusks were about 5-6 inches in diameter. Police believe the elephant was dead for at least 9-10 hours before being discovered. The authorities surmised that the suspects must have drugged the elephant during the night and waited until it fell before cutting away its tusks. Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal owner Laithongrian Meephan said the deceased elephant came to live at the camp in 1999, but was kept for only special occasions as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant. The owner said each tusk have been at least 1 metre in length. He pleaded for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to help with the case, as the council has asked for cooperation in restraining from possessing weapons, making it difficult to keep the culprits at bay. At present, the police are inspecting whether the elephant was poisoned, and will track the suspects to ensure success in making an arrest. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2014-07-11 Looking at this poor elephant.... as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant .it dosent look to much like the Mighty Elephant in this pic.... i say a decent feed would have done wonders..maybe it starved to death.. and someone ?, took the op to take the tusks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 Don't worry! Whoever did it, will make merit tomorrow morning giving food to the monks on their knees and then it will be back on his usual stuff (killing,stealing,whatever it goes etc) again, you got to love the true "thainess" here...sabai sabai. "you got to love the true "thainess" here...sabai sabai." Yes, only Thai people are greedy, cruel, etc. You have to love the truly xenophobic farang who only see evil in selected people. What happened was wrong and the INDIVIDUALS who did it should be punished, but let's not use it for one more excuse to blame all 67 million Thai people and the Thai culture. Everyday in every country, every nationality, every race people do incredibly cruel, inhuman, senseless things and a lot of them go unnoticed and, if noticed, are quickly excused. If you're blind to the universality of all these shameful acts, that says a lot about your selective world view. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 thaisness, you must love it everybody happy, remember ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercdogules Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 i'm so mad. i don't know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The mahout forgot to add first that he was paid to leave his elephant chained by the river and told not to come back till morning. There's no way these mahouts would leave their elephants out of sight. In Samut Prakarn were always a few mahouts with elephants who went from house to house to make money and they always went drinking lao kao when the money was enough, let the Elephants (2-3) stay at a grassy place with a lot rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonRatch Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Ayutthaya elephant poisoned for ivory By Digital Content AYUTTHAYA, July 11 -- A male elephant was found dead inside the compound of the Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal in this central province today, and the authorities believe the elephant was poisoned for its ivory. Police officers from Ayutthaya Police Station inspected the scene at Suan Prik subdistrict, Phra Nakhon Sri Ayutthaya district, finding a male elephant named Klao, age 50, dead near a small woods, next to the elephant kraal. Both of its tusks were cut off and taken away. The tusks were about 5-6 inches in diameter. Police believe the elephant was dead for at least 9-10 hours before being discovered. The authorities surmised that the suspects must have drugged the elephant during the night and waited until it fell before cutting away its tusks. Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal owner Laithongrian Meephan said the deceased elephant came to live at the camp in 1999, but was kept for only special occasions as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant. The owner said each tusk have been at least 1 metre in length. He pleaded for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to help with the case, as the council has asked for cooperation in restraining from possessing weapons, making it difficult to keep the culprits at bay. At present, the police are inspecting whether the elephant was poisoned, and will track the suspects to ensure success in making an arrest. (MCOT online news) -- TNA 2014-07-11 Looking at this poor elephant.... as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant .it dosent look to much like the Mighty Elephant in this pic.... i say a decent feed would have done wonders..maybe it starved to death.. and someone ?, took the op to take the tusks koff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trentham Posted July 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... Pigs and cattle are not endangered species because of mankind's breeding of them. Perhaps we could slaughter them more "kindly" but they are not in danger of dying out. Elephants are in peril. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiestyFarang Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 ""and will track the suspects to ensure success in making an arrest" - do they have any suspects or were they across the border before the body was found 8-10 hours is a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentham Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The mahout forgot to add first that he was paid to leave his elephant chained by the river and told not to come back till morning. There's no way these mahouts would leave their elephants out of sight. OH come on! Stop picking on the poor guy. Surely he is allowed to sleep sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 50 years old - too old to slog for tourists but still eat a lot. At least another 10 years too long to wait for the ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... The topic is the senseless slaughter of what must have been a magnificent animal with a set of tusks worth stealing. I am sure many members here feel the same way as you about cruel slaughterhouse methods. I wonder whether you, as a "carnivore member", have made any progress against this cruel treatment of meat animals? Back to topic, as one other mentioned, why was the elephant left unattended at night on its own? It should have been in a secured location if it had any value. Perhaps he can claim on the insurance with the owner. I think you misunderstood me: What I mean is: For cruel on one elephant or a lovely rabbit everyone gets very upset. But that are 1000s of animals processed in a very cruel way and with unnecessary pain doesn't make anyone (OK a few) upset. Pigs are actually very smart animals, more than dogs. (And the forum is furious about killing dogs). My point is, that it is complete out of balance. Just lovely animals have rights? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Myanmar-confirms-illegal-live-elephant-trade-amid--30237908.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 left it chained and came back to find it dead? he hasn't just got a new motorbike by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... One would have thought that by now people would realise how incredibly facile this argument is!....yet it still keeps turning up, more a reflection on the lack of understanding of the poster than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcopops Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The mahout forgot to add first that he was paid to leave his elephant chained by the river and told not to come back till morning. There's no way these mahouts would leave their elephants out of sight. To call these people "mahout" is usually a misnomer.....mahouts spend a life-time with an elephant. These people are usually "elephant handlers" who rent the animals off the legal owners for commercial - usually touristic - purposes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 Thieves poison elephant to steal tusksAYUTTHAYA: -- A 50-year-old male elephant was poisoned to death and its tusks sawn off near Lopburi river in Ayutthaya province Friday morning.The police said the brutal theft was carried by more than three persons while the owner of the Royal Elephant Kraal said the thieves were not professional judging from the tusks they cut.The elephant, Klao, was found dead near the river in Ayutthaya. It was chained to a tree beside the river in Moo 6 village of Ban Koh sub-district.Its mahout said he had chained the elephant there on Thursday as it had been in rut in the past week.It was killed by poison early Friday morning.Owner of the Elephant Kraal, Laithongrian Meephan, said the killers might be teenagers or drug addicts nearby the place judging from the tusks they cut off not right at their base.They did not appear to know that beautiful tusks must include the base to be truly valued. A pair of the tusks valued 4-5 million baht, he said.Ayutthaya police said they were asking veterinarian to conduct autopsy to find what kind of poison was used to caused death to the elephant son that they could have traces to find out the thieves.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thieves-poison-elephant-steal-tusks/ -- Thai PBS 2014-07-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csabo Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... Pigs and Cattle are killed for meat at least. I have never heard of a pig reaching the age of fifty and possibly being the only male breeder for miles being killed for it's canine teeth only. I think there is a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatyaier Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done.... The topic is the senseless slaughter of what must have been a magnificent animal with a set of tusks worth stealing. I am sure many members here feel the same way as you about cruel slaughterhouse methods. I wonder whether you, as a "carnivore member", have made any progress against this cruel treatment of meat animals? Back to topic, as one other mentioned, why was the elephant left unattended at night on its own? It should have been in a secured location if it had any value. Perhaps he can claim on the insurance with the owner. I think you misunderstood me: What I mean is: For cruel on one elephant or a lovely rabbit everyone gets very upset. But that are 1000s of animals processed in a very cruel way and with unnecessary pain doesn't make anyone (OK a few) upset. Pigs are actually very smart animals, more than dogs. (And the forum is furious about killing dogs). My point is, that it is complete out of balance. Just lovely animals have rights? mmm rabbit stew! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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