how to obtain a british passport for 12 year old daughter who lives with me and my new wife

[noogaloo]

I want to obtain a passport for my daughter who lives with myself and my new wife i am finding the gobbledegook very confusing from the u.k. gov site has anyone in a similar situation any advice her natural mother has no objections to her obtaining a british passport and even going to the u.k.

[7by7]

Are you British otherwise than by descent or British by descent?
 
You are British otherwise than by descent if you were born in the UK or a qualifying territory and at least one of your parents is British or was legally resident in the UK or qualifying territory where you were born.
 
In which case your daughter can inherit British nationality from you.
 
You are British by descent if you inherited your British nationality from one or both of your parents due to being born outside the UK or a qualifying territory.
 
In which case, as British citizenship can only descend one generation, your daughter, unless born in the UK or a qualifying territory, is not currently British.
 
Were you married to her mother?
 
Prior to 1/7/2006 British fathers could not pass their British citizenship onto their children born outside the UK or a qualifying territory unless they were married to the mother.

If she is not currently British you can apply to register her as such. See Children born outside the UK and paras 10, 13, 14, 15 and 16 of this document.
 
If she is already British she can apply for a British passport. See here.
 
Note that you will need to supply your long form birth certificate in the application to show that you are British otherwise than by descent.
 
If you don't have it, you can order a copy from the GRO if born in England or Wales. If born in Scotland or Northern Ireland, follow the appropriate link from that page.

[noogaloo]

do you know what documentation is reqd. from the paternal mother i am a british national born of british parents

[7by7]

do you know what documentation is reqd. from the paternal mother

Not sure what you mean by 'paternal mother.'

If you mean your daughter's mother; none. But if you were married to her you will need your old marriage certificate.

 

As said, if you were not married to her then as your daughter was born before 1/7/06 she is not currently British; regardless of your status.

If you mean your mother; none. But you will, as said above, need your long form birth certificate. The information on which will show whether you are British otherwise than by descent or British by descent.
 

i am a british national born of british parents

In the UK or a qualifying territory*?

 

If 'yes' then you are British otherwise than by descent and your daughter has inherited your British nationality; provided you were married to her mother.

 

If 'no' then you are British by descent and your daughter will only be automatically British if she was born in the UK or a qualifying territory. 

*The qualifying territories are all the British overseas territories, except the sovereign base areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (in Cyprus).

[MANICMINER]

'If you mean your daughter's mother; none. But if you were married to her you will need your old marriage certificate.'

 

 

 

Why does Table C in your link state BOTH parents birth certificate is required?

 

 

[7by7]

Which link?

 

I can't find the Table C you refer to, but in the application form for registration it does say that the British parent's birth certificates are required.

 

Edit, found it here.

 

It is not clear, but my impression is that both parents birth certificates are only required if both parents are British; but I accept that I may be wrong and it certainly will not hurt to submit the mother's birth certificate.

 

But, if the birth was registered at the British embassy (which is not compulsory) and the certificate issued by them names both parents then this is not required.

 

Aplos for the confusion; but this can be a complex area.

 

Edited July 29, 2014 by 7by7

[MANICMINER]

Which link?

 

I can't find the Table C you refer too, but in the application form for registration it does say that the British parent's birth certificates are required.

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/309169/OS_Guidance_Gp2.PDF

[7by7]

See above, edited while you were typing.

[MANICMINER]

Which link?

 

I can't find the Table C you refer to, but in the application form for registration it does say that the British parent's birth certificates are required.

 

Edit, found it here.

 

It is not clear, but my impression is that both parents birth certificates are only required if both parents are British; but I accept that I may be wrong and it certainly will not hurt to submit the mother's birth certificate.

 

But, if the birth was registered at the British embassy (which is not compulsory) and the certificate issued by them names both parents then this is not required.

 

Aplos for the confusion; but this can be a complex area.

 

I agree with your impression, because it seems wrong that a thai wife/husband(ex or not) can block their child getting uk citizenship, because they do not provide their birth certificate.

[7by7]

One point to consider, which I admit I forgot, is that as the child is a minor I understand Thai immigration may want to see confirmation from her mother that she has no objection to her daughter leaving Thailand. Unless the father has sole custody, in which case the relevant custody document should be shown.

 

So, noogaloo, unless you have sole custody, get such a letter just in case.

 

Obviously the girl should use her Thai passport to leave and enter Thailand and her British passport, once obtained, to enter and leave the UK.

[noogaloo]

Thank you to all who responded i am a little more aware of what i need to do