pinkpanther99 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I saw a post on Faecbook from a company offering retirement visas and other visa services. This was the post: Retirement Visa's ..... No need to fly out anymore, stay in Thailand. 1. You need to be over 50 years of age 2. You need a passport with at least 12 months validity remaining3. 2 up to date passport photo's4. No bank account details 5. Drop your passport and photo's at 9am back to you 4pm that day !!6. No Problems .... Call Pxxx for more information on 09x xxx xxx Is this company really able to offer such services? It's not legal, right? Do you not need to have money seasoned in the bank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) As discussed many times already Is not legal in the sense that there corrupt officers behind it, that are skipping the "seasoning check" or the money check altogether. Other than that the extension of stay issued is legal. Edited August 4, 2014 by paz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It is certainly dodgy and would be a fraudulent application. The under 50 years old makes even more questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It doesn't says under 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertty Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I was offered this way of doing things. Once for 50,000 baht, once for 35,000 baht. Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country. If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Normal price is Bt. 20,000 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/744941-dodgy-retirement-visa-opinions-please/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country.If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply.I was true, for sure, but it may be changing...Just noticed this week-end that an "easy retirement visa" board,that was on display near Pattaya Tai and Second Road for months or years,is not more... Good sign of some change ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigp Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I thought it was a loophole by the agents 'lending' the money (800k) to meet the requirements for the visa? I'm not saying this is right or correct, but this what was being discussed in the other thread that got closed. It seemed to be a grey area and mixed opinions about the legality of this amongst the TV members last time this topic was active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I thought it was a loophole by the agents 'lending' the money (800k) to meet the requirements //It seemed to be a grey area and //How could it be "grey" when they got the visa in 1 day and the requirement is to have this money on your account during at least 2 months? In the present case you don't even need a bank account. They probably pay someone in a bank to get a "true bank attestation with false data"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Maybe in the next up-close-&-personal interview with the top (#3) Immigration man he can be asked which instant retirement extension service he recommends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Quite apart from anything else, the odds are that any visa obtained in this way must be fake and, hence, invalid in Immigration's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Normal price is Bt. 20,000 I know several people who paid about 11-12,000 for this over the last year. They have all recently been advised that it may no longer be possible at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meom Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I thought it was a loophole by the agents 'lending' the money (800k) to meet the requirements // It seemed to be a grey area and // How could it be "grey" when they got the visa in 1 day and the requirement is to have this money on your account during at least 2 months? In the present case you don't even need a bank account. They probably pay someone in a bank to get a "true bank attestation with false data"... If they go by monthly income of +65,000 there is no seasoning requirement afaik. I guess the IO verifies this either by income statement or is own judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If they go by monthly income of +65,000 there is no seasoning requirement afaik.Right, but they would need a Revenues Attestation from his Embassy... not free, and not in 1 day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meom Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If they go by monthly income of +65,000 there is no seasoning requirement afaik. Right, but they would need a Revenues Attestation from his Embassy... not free, and not in 1 day In theory that will be required but my guess is that a lot of so called " required paper" work is not properly examined nor filed after issuance of the extension which is how they (the IO in question) probably get away with it. There’s a whole bunch of papers involved in extension and I wonder sometimes what they do with all that paper work later on. I could be wrong here but I don’t think everything gets scanned and saved for later auditing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larsjohnsson Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If they go by monthly income of +65,000 there is no seasoning requirement afaik. Right, but they would need a Revenues Attestation from his Embassy... not free, and not in 1 day It's in 1 day at my Embassy. And 570 baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) I was offered this way of doing things. Once for 50,000 baht, once for 35,000 baht. Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country. If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply. "Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country." Name one country where someone isn't on the take to remove inconvenient rules and regulations from the path of the big spenders. "If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply." And if you follow the rules you don't have to spend all the extra money. Corruption of this sort takes at least two people ... a taker and a giver. Neither has a halo over his/her head. Edited August 4, 2014 by Suradit69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxyzptlk Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I thought it was a loophole by the agents 'lending' the money (800k) to meet the requirements // It seemed to be a grey area and // How could it be "grey" when they got the visa in 1 day and the requirement is to have this money on your account during at least 2 months? In the present case you don't even need a bank account. They probably pay someone in a bank to get a "true bank attestation with false data"... If they go by monthly income of +65,000 there is no seasoning requirement afaik. I guess the IO verifies this either by income statement or is own judgement. If you fulfill the 65000 per month baht requirements then you can do it yourself and don't need an "agent" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meom Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I thought it was a loophole by the agents 'lending' the money (800k) to meet the requirements // It seemed to be a grey area and // How could it be "grey" when they got the visa in 1 day and the requirement is to have this money on your account during at least 2 months? In the present case you don't even need a bank account. They probably pay someone in a bank to get a "true bank attestation with false data"... If they go by monthly income of +65,000 there is no seasoning requirement afaik. I guess the IO verifies this either by income statement or is own judgement. If you fulfill the 65000 per month baht requirements then you can do it yourself and don't need an "agent" Yes that's obvious. The question was how do agents get away with arranging an extension for those who do not comply with the requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxyzptlk Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 OK Sorry I misunderstood....I would have thought you would know that already TiT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yes that's obvious. The question was how do agents get away with arranging an extension for those who do not comply with the requirements. Because they bribe a corrupt immigration officer to overlook what is, at the end, a technical detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertty Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I was offered this way of doing things. Once for 50,000 baht, once for 35,000 baht. Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country. If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply. "Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country." Name one country where someone isn't on the take to remove inconvenient rules and regulations from the path of the big spenders. "If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply." And if you follow the rules you don't have to spend all the extra money. Corruption of this sort takes at least two people ... a taker and a giver. Neither has a halo over his/her head. Sorry but I don't think I ever said I had a problem with this. Just don't tell me this is all being done with the interest of Thailand at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYJAYDEE Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I was offered this way of doing things. Once for 50,000 baht, once for 35,000 baht. Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country. If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply. "Just another reason to forget things are being done for the benefit for the country." Name one country where someone isn't on the take to remove inconvenient rules and regulations from the path of the big spenders. "If you have the money rules and regulation do not apply." And if you follow the rules you don't have to spend all the extra money. Corruption of this sort takes at least two people ... a taker and a giver. Neither has a halo over his/her head. Sorry but I don't think I ever said I had a problem with this. Just don't tell me this is all being done with the interest of Thailand at heart. who do you think its being done for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I know there are corrupt immigration people working at the Jomtien office. I know somwonw that was able to get a retirement visa for 25000 without showing 800k in the bank . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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