wilcopops Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'm sorry to have been a little abrupt but Lyme is a very complicated disease with a political issue. If you read the bit about Chronic disease on cdc they call it post Lyme Syndrome In some cases, these can last for more than 6 months. Although often called "chronic Lyme disease," this condition is properly known as "Post-treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome" (PTLDS). Which makes all the difference and allows health insurance companies to deny refund to their patients. For the moment every country except Germany has followed the American board advice and refuses to treat thousands of very sick and dying patients. This is why CDC literature is not a reliable source of info. For better information you should watch the movie: Under our skin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgR_Jfbhv8 It explains how the American Board was infiltrated by insurance companies to say that there is no such thing as Chronic Lyme disease. I know most websites only mention ticks as a vector to just make the message clearer as it is a complicated disease, but ticks are just one of many vectors. http://www.stopthelymelies.com/lyme-disease-101/transmission-controversies Anyway, in doubt I definitely think the OP should get treatment asap. A few weeks of antibiotics even as prevention, is nothing compared to what he might be facing. I hate to say this... looks like you are right, I thought that this was just conspiracy stuff. " For the moment every country except Germany has followed the American board advice and refuses to treat thousands of very sick and dying patients." - Because the SCIENTIFIC proof is NOT THERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) No one is screaming. Just presenting the OP with the option to avoid easily a seriously debilitating disease. Advising a person with no indications of Lyme Disease, and living in an area of low transmission, to self-treat with prophylactic antibiotics is highly irresponsible. 1/As previously said I advised the OP to get hold of a LLMD to seek advice for treatment. Never advocated self medication. Here is what I wrote; Contact www.tbdalliance.org ASAP and get a LLMD on the phone to talk to you for which abx treatment is suitable. 2/ As for now it is not possible to establish that Thailand is a low transmission area. Edited August 8, 2014 by Kitsune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'm sorry to have been a little abrupt but Lyme is a very complicated disease with a political issue. If you read the bit about Chronic disease on cdc they call it post Lyme Syndrome In some cases, these can last for more than 6 months. Although often called "chronic Lyme disease," this condition is properly known as "Post-treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome" (PTLDS). Which makes all the difference and allows health insurance companies to deny refund to their patients. For the moment every country except Germany has followed the American board advice and refuses to treat thousands of very sick and dying patients. This is why CDC literature is not a reliable source of info. For better information you should watch the movie: Under our skin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JgR_Jfbhv8 It explains how the American Board was infiltrated by insurance companies to say that there is no such thing as Chronic Lyme disease. I know most websites only mention ticks as a vector to just make the message clearer as it is a complicated disease, but ticks are just one of many vectors. http://www.stopthelymelies.com/lyme-disease-101/transmission-controversies Anyway, in doubt I definitely think the OP should get treatment asap. A few weeks of antibiotics even as prevention, is nothing compared to what he might be facing. I hate to say this... looks like you are right, I thought that this was just conspiracy stuff. " For the moment every country except Germany has followed the American board advice and refuses to treat thousands of very sick and dying patients." - Because the SCIENTIFIC proof is NOT THERE Lyme disease is a very controversial disease. This is obviously not the place to start a debate on this. Let's just the OP decide for himself. I wish someone had for me. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBN Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 To repeat what Sheryl suggested; there is NO indication that this individual was exposed to Lymes disease so keep this out of the conversation. Likely sandfly or spider but it looks more like bruising. Sandfly is intensely itchy which distinguishes it from a spider bite, and takes some time to heal. Proper examination with some magnification by a dermatologist is surely indicated if this persists beyond a few days.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancnx Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 (edited) I had similar last year on the top of my foot. Thought it was a mozzy,......... then it looked like a bruise. 3 days later very swollen and very very painful. Very difficult to walk on it. Total 2 weeks. A powerful magnifying glass revealed fang marks = small (tiny)spider (we think). The bite was night time (I was stoking the BBQ at the time) I live in the forest. I should add (probably irresponsibly). I self treated with anti histamine. Not sure if the doc would have done any different Edited August 10, 2014 by iancnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBN Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 More posts concerning Lymes disease will be deleted. Enough already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanhull Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hey all... I am fine never saw a doc and the bruising went after a few days. Cheers for replies thou think it was just a mozzie bite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjunadawn Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Ok not sure you are listening any longer but I will go on in the event it helps another. This is unlikely a bite. You don't seem to have an immune response going on. This is what is called a hematoma, or ecchymosis. There is a point proximal- north- in the hairline that looks like it may be a primary irritation of bite, but unsure. It is possible that an injury or impact here could cause the subtle bleeding to widely disperse in the round shape you see on the dorsal side of your palm= gravity. The area is thin and a little blood disperses a great deal. It actually looks like your hand impacted on object. Normally this is more typical of the elderly, and I don't think you are over 50, so less common. Everyone who suggests seeing a doctor is always correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanhull Posted August 10, 2014 Author Share Posted August 10, 2014 p.s anyone who has a rough mozzy bite, I recommend Zam-Buk balm, you can get it in any chemist or 711 Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Despite numerous requests by the moderators to stay on topic some posters have continued to derail this thread into discussion of Lyme disease, which is not in any way relevant to what the OP described. As the OP has informed that he is fine and the slight bruising (which was the ONLY symptom present) quickly resolved on its own, the thread is now closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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