Obama authorises US air strikes on Iraq Islamic extremists

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Obama authorises US air strikes on Iraq Islamic extremists

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama said Thursday he had authorised US air strikes on Iraq and humanitarian supply drops to prevent a "genocide" by Islamist extremists against minorities.

"We can act, carefully and responsibly, to prevent a potential act of genocide," Obama said, referring to the attacks against the besieged Yazidi minority.

"I therefore authorised targeted air strikes if necessary to help forces in Iraq as they fight to break the siege and protect the civilians trapped there," Obama said.

Obama, who did not say whether air strikes have been carried out, said US forces have already started to drop food and water to Iraqis racing to flee the so-called Islamic State fighters.

"Earlier this week, one Iraqi in the area cried to the world, there is no one coming to help. Well, today America is coming to help," Obama said.

Full story: http://www.enca.com/obama-authorizes-us-air-strikes-iraq

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[OZEMADE]

The Christians are rising up, thank god for the world Police the USA. All the UN and NATO do is condemn the murders and attacks, however they don't seem to do much. I see where the UK may be sending troops back to Afghanistan.

A city in Iran is being surrounded by the terrorists. The people mainly Christians are fleeing the city and the USA are dropping food and water to them.

Obama has stated there are Americans in the Consulate in that city. I would hate to see what happens if they are killed and what the repercussions would be from the Americans.

[billd766]

Just a small step too far I think.

I also think that the UK Con/Lib/Dem government may have a problem in sending UK troops back to Afghanistan especially as they are committed to withdrawing by end December and even more especially as they are making redundancies across all 3 services.

[Ulysses G.]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

[Asiantravel]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

Who says?

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[metisdead]

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[Chicog]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

Who says?

This bloke, among others.

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

Edited August 8, 2014 by Chicog

[coma]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

Who says?

His magic crystal ball.

[coma]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

Who says?

This bloke, among others.

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

[Soutpeel]

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama said Thursday he had authorised US air strikes on Iraq and humanitarian supply drops to prevent a "genocide" by Islamist extremists against minorities.

"We can act, carefully and responsibly, to prevent a potential act of genocide," Obama said, referring to the attacks against the besieged Yazidi minority.

"I therefore authorised targeted air strikes if necessary to help forces in Iraq as they fight to break the siege and protect the civilians trapped there," Obama said.

Obama, who did not say whether air strikes have been carried out, said US forces have already started to drop food and water to Iraqis racing to flee the so-called Islamic State fighters.

"Earlier this week, one Iraqi in the area cried to the world, there is no one coming to help. Well, today America is coming to help," Obama said.

Ah religion the panacea for all iils

America would be well advised to stay out of it as would other nations too.

Meddling in another sovereign states affairs and religious bigotry matters Christian Muslim Born again dipsticks whatever is a recipe for disaster.

yeap, Removed a Tyrant/dictator in Sadaam Hussien and this is what the vacumn has created.

[slipperylobster]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

Who says?

This bloke, among others.

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

....errr, you forgot the beheading part if they decide not to convert. Yeah...it is an attempt to wipe them out.

[Asiantravel]

Where it really gets confusing is that, according to Senator Rand Paul US has been arming ISIS so will those weapons now be used against the US?

Edited August 8, 2014 by Asiantravel

[rgs2001uk]

ISIS intends to wipe them all out. It is not about numbers as you well know.

Who says?

This bloke, among others.

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

....errr, you forgot the beheading part if they decide not to convert. Yeah...it is an attempt to wipe them out.

....errr, you forgot to mention the bit about if they choose not to convert, they can either pay taxes (jizya) or leave.

Sectarian cleansing I believe its called, should come as no great surprise, the Saudis I believe were the first Islamic state to order sectarian cleansing.

[Chicog]

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

Ah OK, so beheading and dismembering the ones who don't covert to Islam is not wiping them out then.

Thanks for clarifying that.

[coma]

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

....errr, you forgot the beheading part if they decide not to convert. Yeah...it is an attempt to wipe them out.

....errr, you forgot to mention the bit about if they choose not to convert, they can either pay taxes (jizya) or leave.

Sectarian cleansing I believe its called, should come as no great surprise, the Saudis I believe were the first Islamic state to order sectarian cleansing.

So let the Iraqis sort it out. If they want to.

[rgs2001uk]

"We are being told to convert or to lose our heads," said Khuldoon Atyas, who has stayed behind to guard his family's crops. "There is no one coming to help."

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

....errr, you forgot the beheading part if they decide not to convert. Yeah...it is an attempt to wipe them out.

....errr, you forgot to mention the bit about if they choose not to convert, they can either pay taxes (jizya) or leave.

Sectarian cleansing I believe its called, should come as no great surprise, the Saudis I believe were the first Islamic state to order sectarian cleansing.

So let the Iraqis sort it out. If they want to.

I dont believe the Iraqis are capable of sorting it out, they all ran away or deserted their posts and threw off their uniforms didnt they.

The Iranians will sort it out, rising blood pressure in Riyadh Tel Aviv or Washington at that little scenario playing out.

Iraq just becomes another province of Iran.

[Chicog]

The Iranians will sort it out, rising blood pressure in Riyadh Tel Aviv or Washington at that little scenario playing out.

Iraq just becomes another province of Iran.

Actually that's precisely the reason it's falling apart - that's exactly what Maliki was making it.

[coma]

That is not "intent to wipe them out". It is an attempt to convert them to their factitious form of Islam.

....errr, you forgot the beheading part if they decide not to convert. Yeah...it is an attempt to wipe them out.

....errr, you forgot to mention the bit about if they choose not to convert, they can either pay taxes (jizya) or leave.

Sectarian cleansing I believe its called, should come as no great surprise, the Saudis I believe were the first Islamic state to order sectarian cleansing.

So let the Iraqis sort it out. If they want to.

Iraq just becomes another province of Iran.

I would like to see that.

[Ulysses G.]

Iraq just becomes another province of Iran.

I would like to see that.

We've picked up on that.

[rethaier]

The Christians are rising up, thank god for the world Police the USA. All the UN and NATO do is condemn the murders and attacks, however they don't seem to do much. I see where the UK may be sending troops back to Afghanistan.

A city in Iran is being surrounded by the terrorists. The people mainly Christians are fleeing the city and the USA are dropping food and water to them.

Obama has stated there are Americans in the Consulate in that city. I would hate to see what happens if they are killed and what the repercussions would be from the Americans.

I would hate to see what happens if they are killed and what the repercussions would be from the Americans.

Probably similar to Bengazi when Hillary and Obama missed all the warnings and blamed a youtube video then did nothing even though the ambassador was one of the dead.

[coma]

Where it really gets confusing is that, according to Senator Rand Paul US has been arming ISIS so will those weapons now be used against the US?

Exactly 100% true. But these other dumb ar$es just don't see or get it.

[SymS]

Just a legal question... Can Obama decide air strikes by himself, or does it have to be approved by congress?

[Chicog]

As for your reference to Assad. He would have been gone 2 years ago if that were the wish of the MAJORITY of Syrians. But it aint. So he is doing something right by his people. Maybe handing out vouchers for Harrod's.

Clearly not a lot of point having a conversation with someone so amazingly ill-informed.

[rethaier]

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Just a legal question... Can Obama decide air strikes by himself, or does it have to be approved by congress?

Obama after creating over 1000 executive orders is all but a dictator, he can and does do whatever pleases his fancy. It's just a shame that his fancy is not to pull the plug on Israel.

There's not a lot of point coming here telling outright lies now is there?

President Obama has issued 184 orders so far in his presidency. His predecessor, President George W. Bush, issued 291 orders over eight years, while President Bill Clinton had 364 executive orders during his two terms in office.

My apologies. That was a typo, I did not know the exact amount and meant totype 100+.

[Wat dee]

Just a legal question... Can Obama decide air strikes by himself, or does it have to be approved by congress?

Obama after creating over 1000 executive orders is all but a dictator, he can and does do whatever pleases his fancy. It's just a shame that his fancy is not to pull the plug on Israel.

There's not a lot of point coming here telling outright lies now is there?

President Obama has issued 184 orders so far in his presidency. His predecessor, President George W. Bush, issued 291 orders over eight years, while President Bill Clinton had 364 executive orders during his two terms in office.

Where are your quotes from? Source helps to verify and belief.

[Chicog]

Where are your quotes from? Source helps to verify and belief.

President Obama has issued 184 orders so far in his presidency. His predecessor, President George W. Bush, issued 291 orders over eight years, while President Bill Clinton had 364 executive orders during his two terms in office.

Look it up yourself, it's public record.

Added: Just for Asiantravel....

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2014/08/president-obamas-use-of-executive-orders-in-historical-terms/

Edited August 8, 2014 by Chicog

[Chicog]

erm………….I don’t think rethaier is the one telling untruths here ?

Barack Obama's 923 Executive Orders

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/Barack-Obamas-Executive-Orders.htm

You've just linked to a post that debunks the statement.

What's your point?

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[Chicog]

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

[Steely Dan]

To look at things in perspective this whole mess started with the deposing of Saddam Hussein. Granted the man was pure evil, as is Assad and to a lesser extent so too was Gadaffi, however in the Middle East the choice seems to be rule by a tyrant or else tyranny from an Islamic theocracy. The former being preferable to the latter. The whole basis of interfering in such places is ill advised if the organization of a vote is supposed to miraculously lead to democracy. It may be cynical but to install a western leaning strong man with no tolerance for religious zealots is the best strategy for places such as Iraq.

Fast forward to today and the serial mistake of trying to impose a democratic model has lead to the formation of ISIS and it's like, In other words a far greater mess than ever existed before. Limited air strikes won't help in my view the war is the defining war of our times one of all peoples against Islamic extremists, who have been allowed to abuse western democracies in order to convert and recruit people to their cause.

In my view immigration from the third world should almost exclusively consist of religious and ethnic minorities who are being persecuted by the Islamo-fascists, sadly for the most part the west is still in denial about the scale of the problem and focuses elsewhere to avoid looking at the elephant in the room.


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[metisdead]

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