Prayuth elected as the 29th Thai PM

[djjamie]

can not reply as my sentences are not coherent so you will not understand them therefore it is useless to reply as my teacher at school was no good. Ha Ha.

Let me be more simple. PTP name was not the reason for their criticism it was the non democratic bad governance that was criticized. ( was that sentence OK ??)

At this time before any evaluation is put on the early performance, the army is criticized because of it's tag=army. ( is that sentence OK)

Where was it written in the law that it was legal re PTP. and where is it written in the law that it's illegal now.??

We are and should be using the word Constructive criticism. the army is talking about disruptive/organized/threatening agenda groups. The way some of you people are talking is we all have a gun at our heads and are not allowed to talk. This is the anti army propaganda that is not wanted in these early days.

Thaksin has just told his followers to go with and support Prayuth. now it's shut a few up hasn't it. (another thread).

"Where was it written in the law that it was legal re PTP. and where is it written in the law that it's illegal now.??"

By your own admission the PTP was criticized and nobody went to jail for that. The junta rules by decree, and one of their earliest decrees was against criticizing their rule.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-thailand-politics-fear-insight-idUSKBN0GM08L20140822

You have just cracked the nut, ( criticizing their rule ) as you said, now the difference is constructive criticism of what decisions they are making, is what Prayuth asked for in his televised talk. vast difference especially if it is personal or from known trouble makers etc.

'constuctive criticism'? When was the ban on any criticism lifted?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728255-thai-army-takes-aim-at-media-to-muzzle-dissent/?hl=media

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728815-media-organisations-urge-junta-to-lift-coup-orders-that-restrict-press-freedom/?hl=media

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/727561-thai-army-censors-media-as-martial-law-declared/?hl=media

As far as 'cracked the nut' I just referenced an uncensored news source.

If you want constructive criticism, then I must criticize restrictions on freedom of speech, press and association; they are critical for 'real democracy', and also critical to educate and prepare people for democracy.

WOW. A military dictatorship is not allowing media freedoms. No surprises there.

How about a PTP "democracy" that won't allow freedom of speech here.

How about a PTP "democracy" that won't allow freedom of media here.

The tool of democracy can be evil if yielded by the wrong dictator.

Luckily the tool of dictatorship is being yielded by a democratic visionary so all is good.

Well done to the Right Honorable General Preyuth.

[hawker9000]

sad, sad, and sad. A military coup, that appointed its own cabinet, and now "elects" the PM. So this situation and this PM is better than a legally elected PM such as Thaksin? Coup upoin coup upon coup. It really is amazing to see such a thing in these so-called modern times, especially with mass communication and information.

Amazing that many on here have been duped into supporting it. Some appearing to waken up now. More will when the tourists are gone, the fun is gone and the lunatic crack-downs start to affect a wider scope of the expat populus.

So many are clearly so obsessed with Thaksin that any rational discussion falls on deaf ears.

"obsessed with Thaksin"

I like that phrase. It's cute. Terminally lame, and catchy for some few I guess, but cute. 'Like being "obsessed with cancer" or "obsessed with corruption" or "obsessed with violent crime" or "obsessed" with the guy that stole your car...

But you see it's actually if you CAN'T find any other rational explanation or scrape together something in the man's defense, that you end up labeling it an "obsession"...

[habvick]

sad, sad, and sad. A military coup, that appointed its own cabinet, and now "elects" the PM. So this situation and this PM is better than a legally elected PM such as Thaksin? Coup upoin coup upon coup. It really is amazing to see such a thing in these so-called modern times, especially with mass communication and information.

Amazing that many on here have been duped into supporting it. Some appearing to waken up now. More will when the tourists are gone, the fun is gone and the lunatic crack-downs start to affect a wider scope of the expat populus.

So many are clearly so obsessed with Thaksin that any rational discussion falls on deaf ears.

So many are clearly so obsessed with claiming that others are obsessed with Thaksin that any rational discussion falls on deaf ears.

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Edited August 23, 2014 by habvick

[ThailandNoob]

can not reply as my sentences are not coherent so you will not understand them therefore it is useless to reply as my teacher at school was no good. Ha Ha.

Let me be more simple. PTP name was not the reason for their criticism it was the non democratic bad governance that was criticized. ( was that sentence OK ??)

At this time before any evaluation is put on the early performance, the army is criticized because of it's tag=army. ( is that sentence OK)

Where was it written in the law that it was legal re PTP. and where is it written in the law that it's illegal now.??

We are and should be using the word Constructive criticism. the army is talking about disruptive/organized/threatening agenda groups. The way some of you people are talking is we all have a gun at our heads and are not allowed to talk. This is the anti army propaganda that is not wanted in these early days.

Thaksin has just told his followers to go with and support Prayuth. now it's shut a few up hasn't it. (another thread).

"Where was it written in the law that it was legal re PTP. and where is it written in the law that it's illegal now.??"

By your own admission the PTP was criticized and nobody went to jail for that. The junta rules by decree, and one of their earliest decrees was against criticizing their rule.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-thailand-politics-fear-insight-idUSKBN0GM08L20140822

You have just cracked the nut, ( criticizing their rule ) as you said, now the difference is constructive criticism of what decisions they are making, is what Prayuth asked for in his televised talk. vast difference especially if it is personal or from known trouble makers etc.

'constuctive criticism'? When was the ban on any criticism lifted?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728255-thai-army-takes-aim-at-media-to-muzzle-dissent/?hl=media

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728815-media-organisations-urge-junta-to-lift-coup-orders-that-restrict-press-freedom/?hl=media

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/727561-thai-army-censors-media-as-martial-law-declared/?hl=media

As far as 'cracked the nut' I just referenced an uncensored news source.

If you want constructive criticism, then I must criticize restrictions on freedom of speech, press and association; they are critical for 'real democracy', and also critical to educate and prepare people for democracy.

WOW. A military dictatorship is not allowing media freedoms. No surprises there.

How about a PTP "democracy" that won't allow freedom of speech here.

How about a PTP "democracy" that won't allow freedom of media here.

The tool of democracy can be evil if yielded by the wrong dictator.

Luckily the tool of dictatorship is being yielded by a democratic visionary so all is good.

Well done to the Right Honorable General Preyuth.

Let us look at each of those two cases. In the first, a single government minister made a threat of legal action against some demonstrators. But did he even follow through on these threats? Did PTP even get behind him? The editorial you posted is pretty scathing, was there any legal action against the writer or the publisher?

The second case did involve legal action, but it was taken as a result of cartoons that labelled Yingluck as a whore. This would be considered sexual harassment in the West.

Now let us compare that to dragging people off the street to be held incommunicado in military camps for reading 1984.

BTW don't you know that we are no longer allowed to refer to Prayuth's government as a military dictatorship? Posts in this thread have been deleted for this.

I would report your post as something that could "be construed as negative about the imposition of Martial Law and the Coup", but I actually believe in freedom of speech so I will let it stand.

Plus, I am seriously starting to believe that you are secretly on the red side, and are expressing your views while dodging censorship by satirising the yellow side. If so, then as a fellow Bombers fan I take my hat off to you.

Maybe I should make a sock puppet account and start doing the same.

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[heybruce]

"Where was it written in the law that it was legal re PTP. and where is it written in the law that it's illegal now.??"

By your own admission the PTP was criticized and nobody went to jail for that. The junta rules by decree, and one of their earliest decrees was against criticizing their rule.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/22/us-thailand-politics-fear-insight-idUSKBN0GM08L20140822

You have just cracked the nut, ( criticizing their rule ) as you said, now the difference is constructive criticism of what decisions they are making, is what Prayuth asked for in his televised talk. vast difference especially if it is personal or from known trouble makers etc.

'constuctive criticism'? When was the ban on any criticism lifted?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728255-thai-army-takes-aim-at-media-to-muzzle-dissent/?hl=media

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/728815-media-organisations-urge-junta-to-lift-coup-orders-that-restrict-press-freedom/?hl=media

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/727561-thai-army-censors-media-as-martial-law-declared/?hl=media

As far as 'cracked the nut' I just referenced an uncensored news source.

If you want constructive criticism, then I must criticize restrictions on freedom of speech, press and association; they are critical for 'real democracy', and also critical to educate and prepare people for democracy.

WOW. A military dictatorship is not allowing media freedoms. No surprises there.

How about a PTP "democracy" that won't allow freedom of speech here.

How about a PTP "democracy" that won't allow freedom of media here.

The tool of democracy can be evil if yielded by the wrong dictator.

Luckily the tool of dictatorship is being yielded by a democratic visionary so all is good.

Well done to the Right Honorable General Preyuth.

The deputy PM ranting against environmentalists disrupting a meeting and the PM suing a cartoonist for defamation (defamation suits are common in Thialand, and used by the military on occasion ( http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/720814-thai-navy-to-file-suit-against-reuters-over-rohingya-report/?hl=+navy%20+reuters). These aren't the same as blanket bans on criticism of the government, censorship of the media, bans on political gatherings of five people or more, etc.