webfact Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 NCPO unlikely to lift martial law as opposition remainsThe NationBANGKOK: -- The National Council for Peace and Order is unlikely to lift the martial law in the near future as groups campaigning against the junta have been detected both in Thailand and abroad.The NCPO Friday did not discuss the lifting of martial law during its meeting Friday as earlier expected.Prime Minister and NCPO chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha assigned NCPO secretary-general and Deputy Defence Minister Gen Udomdej Sitabutr to chair the meeting.First Army Area Command Lt Gen Thirachai Nakwanit had said the NCPO might be asked to consider lifting martial law in tourist areas during the Friday meeting.But the meeting did not discuss the lifting of the martial law. A source said the regional Army areas are still in the process of evaluating the situation before considering whether the martial law should be lifted.The source said the Second and Third Army areas, which cover the North and Northeast, have detected underground groups campaigning against the NCPO.The two regional Army areas found that the groups dared not campaign against the NCPO openly because martial law is still imposed.The meeting was also informed of campaigns against the NCPO via online media. The meeting was informed that a group of opponents also campaigns against the NCPO in Japan and had submitted a letter to the Japanese prime minister, alleging that the junta is torturing opponents.Intelligence officials also reported to the meeting that opponent groups had revived their campaigns against the junta since the Cabinet was formed.The officials said the groups did not dare to campaign openly because the martial law is still imposed so they demanded the lifting of the martial law first.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/NCPO-unlikely-to-lift-martial-law-as-opposition-re-30242593.html-- The Nation 2014-09-05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The majority have no problems with the Martial law, seems weird that it would lifted in Chiang Mai , a hot spot and blue ribbon seat for the PTP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
than Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 When some underground terrorist group still active in Thailand, Martial law will stay in force............. The first duty of the government is to protect innocent citizen and to keep law and order in the country.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If these groups were really hell bent on causing destruction i have no doubt they would regardless of ML. ML does not stop attacks in the south. They are never going to get everyone to agree with it, so it is useless trying- there will always be descent, that is normal. I think they should at least try partially lifting it, and if incidents start to occur put it back in place. There is a cause and effect for everything. The reason the attacks stopped is because the protesters went home, i presume not because the people who were carrying out the attacks were scared of the army. Unfortunately it was shown in 2010, they did not have much fear of army presence then. The longer restrictions stay in place, the more and more ill feeling will simmer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AleG Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 When some underground terrorist group still active in Thailand, Martial law will stay in force............. The first duty of the government is to protect innocent citizen and to keep law and order in the country.......... It's also the duty of a government to protect the liberties of the population. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucec64 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. I'm sure the thousands of Thai families experiencing severe financial hardship due to the crash of the tourism industry will find solace in having your familiy's thanks. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsmart Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Does this imply martial law will be maintained until all vestiges of dissent against the NCPO disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueLeader Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sleep easy, Thailand. Your government is in control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DiamondKing Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 The title says it all How dare people still opose an illegal coup and then be silenced at the end of a gun barrel the cheek of it 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 ...they have barely scratched the surface.... ...long, long, long......did I say long.......way to go...... ...the corruption has been festering for years, if not decades..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tullynagardy Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. YAWN. You just post the same sentence, in a slightly different way, regardless of the topic. As is said above, try telling that to the thousands of Thais struggling to make ends meat, who don`t have the luxury of a love sick walking Australian ATM. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ve37 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. Red Shirt attacks? You mean deadly attacks upon Red Shirts,..and the failure of the Bangkok Elitist Courts to prosecute any involved in the deaths and injuries upon Red Shirts before or after Mr Abhisit regime, and his hate-driven deputy, Mr Suthep (now known as the Enlightened Monk). “Before martial law was declared, Gen Prayuth told me ‘Khun Suthep and your masses of PDRC supporters are too exhausted. It’s now the duty of the army to take over the task’, ” Mr Suthep said. I've studied this situation extensively,...and am amazed at how any of the factless Gobbelesque rhetoric of the hateful yellow Shirts could be believed. But, history is defined by the victors,...so today's history is written by Mr Suthep,...whom, after hours upon hours of listening to him, I have not heard a single verifiable statement. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post max72 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Destroying the opposition to restore the democracy.... Only in Thailand.= North Korea with shopping malls. 555 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RogueLeader Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. Obvious government troll is obvious. Every dictatorship in history has depended for its power and influence on people like this. Edited September 5, 2014 by RogueLeader 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ve37 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 The first duty of the government is to protect innocent citizen and to keep law and order in the country.......... The first duty of the current government is to establish ways so that never again can the majority trump the will of the Bangkok Elite. Before Mr Thaksin, and later, Miss Yingluck, the World Bank says that the Bangkok Elite enjoyed 14 times more of the governments revenue than those of the North. The Shinawatra's interaction with Northern Thai people as equals, rather as the buffalo whom the Bangkok Elite see them as, won them landslide elections,...and those popular elections were removed by military coup. I's suggest that the underlying problem is that none of the Bangkok Elite (aka Yellow Shirts) are actual Buddhists. If they were, the Gobbelesque rhetoric used to media-te the public would not be used. Shakyamuni Buddha said in the Kalama Sutra, “Do not accept anything by mere tradition. . . Do not accept anything just because it accords with your scriptures. . . Do not accept anything merely because it agrees with your preconceived notions.” Again,...no actual facts of corruption have ever been presented against the Shinawatra's. The sole, bogus conviction against Mr Thaksin, was about a ficticious role he played in his ex-wife's purchase of a few acres of land. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ve37 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Does this imply martial law will be maintained until all vestiges of dissent against the NCPO disappear? Until the votes of the people are sufficiently diluted,...so that no elected official can trump any desire of the Bangkok Elite. Take for example, the recent change in how the Police Chief is selected. No longer is a PM allowed to be involved in the process. Instead, the previous Police Chief puppet selects "his" replacement. I'm looking forward to reading the new draft Constitution. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. Obvious government troll is obvious. Every dictatorship in history has depended for its power and influence on people like this. I believe they're referred to as "useful idiots". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Flashback: (Thai PBS 2014-05-21) “Gen. Prayuth stated that the reasons for the declaration martial law was to ensure peace and public order and he didn’t want to see bloodshed anymore on the country.” Gen. Prayuth said, “Let me say this, I am not concerned or particular to any side nor am I involved with the government. The Army is doing this for the sake of everyone in the country and no one should be worried and carry on with your regular routines. We will try not be unduly infringing upon the freedom and liberties of the public.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back To The Future: Now Gen. Prayuth holds absolute power over the three branches of government through his position as NCPO Chief, Prime Minister, and Defense Minister. He has effectively banned political parties and all public protest activities of any nature, controls Thai media content, and directs the police as if it were a unit of the army. Thailand now has an Interim Constitution which prescribes that Thailand is a “unitary and democratic monarchy,” that "Sovereign power belongs to all Thais," and recognizes “human dignity, rights, liberties and equality of the Thais.” Prayuth would seem to have all the mechanisms in place to deal with groups campaigning against the junta both in Thailand and abroad. But continued use of martial law seems to be more an overkill of civil liberties for the sake of an elusive minority of political opposition. If so, one might expect a continued “lockdown” of the nation well into 2015 and perhaps beyond. This would not bode well for dispelling the idea that Thailand has given up its democratic foundations and embarked on establishing a more permanent dictatoral form of government. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I see no problem with the status quot remaining for the time being except it belies the principle of democracy which can only truly exist in an environment of opposition and equality. The interim government is the decree of a military dictatorship and as such will not want a return to normality until all of the citizens bow to their wishes and whims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useronthenet Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If they lift martial law, then it will be business as usual. Corruption runs deep in Thailand, and the Army have their work cut out for them before they get anywhere near solving the issues which have prevented the country from forging ahead. Whilst I was somewhat skeptical of the coup, in a strange way it has improved life, and certainly put all those thinking of indulging in such questionable activities on their guard. Thailand seems not ready for democracy, a word so frequently used by politicians, but not fully understood. True democracy lies within the people themselves, and this can only be achieved if everyone is aligned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. There should be a ban on marching. Northern Ireland used to have this problem If people wish to have a march then it should be cleared with the army and strict rules. Protect freedom of speech but the moment they step out of line. Close them down and arrest all of them If they really feel strong about the march then they should not care about the risk of being arrested and it is up to the the organisers to take he risk of their supporters acting up The other hand they can avoid all this by not marching at all The other things is has to be fare on both sides Cannot be leniate on those who the government like and not on the other side If laws are broken then both sides bust face the same penalty Yingluk made this biggest mistake by asking for amnesty for all her gang rather than offering the same for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post emilymat Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. I don't see how you link martial law with tourism. To hell with tourist numbers - let's look at what martial law is and means. Now you may be one happy farang but, did you know for example that the army could enter your house without a warrant, ransack it and you would be forbidden to complain or receive any apology or compensation. It can't happen to me I expect you are saying and I agree you would probably be right. Now imagine you are Thai, living with this fear on a daily basis!. I only pick out this one example with martial law - there are many more. Let's not be smug and patronise the junta. See it for what it is. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueLeader Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Protect freedom of speech but the moment they step out of line. Close them down and arrest all of them That's satire, that is. Chris Morris sweats for hours to produce comedy of this quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionchaser45 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If the fact that opposition to the junta remains is the reason, then they will never lift martial law. That the junta leaders are afraid of an election attests to the fact that there is widespread opposition among the Thai people. He knows he's not wanted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 When some underground terrorist group still active in Thailand, Martial law will stay in force............. The first duty of the government is to protect innocent citizen and to keep law and order in the country.......... It's also the duty of a government to protect the liberties of the population. Most countries except in Thailand where "happiness" comes first. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 A post containing off topic hyperbole comments has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fab4 Posted September 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2014 In the meantime non confrontational, non hyperbolic posts such as this "My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows." remain. Mmm, OK. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Martial law stopped the daily terrorist attacked by the red shirts in their tracks. Some say Martial law impinges on tourist numbers. I say it is the lesser of two evils. Terrorist attacks in the capital city had more of a negative effect on tourism not to mention the loss of innocent life. My family thank martial law for purging society from the evils of the red shirt terrorists and for the safety of me and mine I hope it stays until the infestation is cleared from the blood soaked shadows. Crazy Fuzzy Warm Feeling.. Until you see a Dictator. Think it another way. Those terrorist attacks with military m79 grenades and snipers stop because the military stopped pulling the pins and pulling the triggers. Great strategy to cease power forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The NCPO controls media content. Only sanitised versions are able to be published. I have not read much in the way of discontent in recent media against the NCPO. So if they want to maintain martial law, what is not being told? Are people suffering with this purge? Maybe the slumbering buffalo is starting to wake up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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