Lite Beer Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Migrants kidnapped in Bangladesh and trafficked to Thailand Bangkok, Thailand | AFP | Sunday BANGKOK: -- People-smugglers kidnapped dozens of Rohingya refugees living in Bangladesh after duping them with fake job offers, and trafficked them to a rubber plantation in southern Thailand, officials said Sunday. The 53 men -- mostly Rohingya refugees from Myanmar but also including Bangladeshi citizens -- were found on Saturday on the plantation in Takua Pa district in the southern Thai coastal province of Phang Nga."Two Thai men have been charged with human trafficking," Nappadon Thiraprawat of Takua Pa police told AFP.The group will be treated as victims of trafficking rather than as illegal immigrants, he added, after interviews revealed they had been kidnapped and put on a boat south.A local official close to the case said most of the men were abducted around a week ago from a Bangladesh coastal area which is home to a large number of Rohingya Muslim refugees from neighbouring Myanmar.Many thought they were being recruited for odd jobs in the area, only to end up on the boat heading south."Some of them were knocked out with anaesthetic and taken to the boat, some were tricked... but they did not intend to come to Thailand," the official told AFP, requesting anonymity.The migrants were initially arrested as illegal immigrants and ferried onto the Thai mainland from a small island in the Andaman Sea, the district chief said on Saturday.Thousands of Rohingya -- a Muslim minority group not recognised as citizens in Myanmar -- have fled deadly communal unrest in Myanmar's Rakhine state since 2012. Most have headed for mainly Muslim Malaysia.Myanmar views its population of roughly 800,000 Rohingya -- described by the United Nations as one of the world's most persecuted minorities -- as illegal immigrats from Bangladesh and denies them citizenship.Around 300,000 Rohingya have over the years gone to live in Bangladesh, which recognises only a small portion as refugees and regularly turns back those trying to cross the border.Most of the 53 were Rohingya from UN-run camps in the Bangladeshi coastal area of Cox's Bazar, according to Chutima Sidasathian of the Phuketwan news website who was present during interviews with the group."This is a new thing... before, we saw Rohingya displaced by violence who wanted to get to Malaysia, but this wasn't their plan -- these people want to go back to the UNHCR camps," she said.Rights groups say the stateless migrants often fall into the hands of people-traffickers.They have also criticised Thailand in the past for pushing boatloads of Rohingya entering Thai waters back out to sea and holding migrants in overcrowded facilities.Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya.Phil Robertson, deputy director of Human Rights Watch's Asia division, described the abductions as a "horrifying new twist" to the already "systematic abuses of Rohingya boat people". -- (c) Copyright AFP 2014-10-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wonder if the traffickers promised them jobs as translators within the Thai policeforce?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokay Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Can't be, Thailand is cleaning up its human trafficking issues so they are not downgraded even more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 pleased they were taken to the mainland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 What's the difference in being "treated as victims of trafficking rather than as illegal immigrants" ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thais wouldn't do this........... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gunna Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thais wouldn't do this........... Thai people won't traffic people, run away, lie, rape, steal, assault, shoot, stab, kill, traffic drugs, operate casinos, use public land, avoid taxes, or any other illegal way to make money, unless they think they can get away with it, because usually they can pay off the police and government officials or they are those people anyway or their family has influence and connections . 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jollyhangmon Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya. Yes. And? Still investigating ...?! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 It would require the lowest form of human to abuse these people who are among the world's most deprived and oppressed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya. Yes. And? Still investigating ...?! That was the old government. I doubt they ever even started to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noitom Posted October 12, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2014 What about the Thai plantation owner? He will be arrested and prosecuted right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Victims will be treated as people being trafficked and not as illegals , if this is the best quality of Thai officials handling these cases, heaven help Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Modern Slavery! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me313 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thais wouldn't do this........... Thai people won't traffic people, run away, lie, rape, steal, assault, shoot, stab, kill, traffic drugs, operate casinos, use public land, avoid taxes, or any other illegal way to make money, unless they think they can get away with it, because usually they can pay off the police and government officials or they are those people anyway or their family has influence and connections . ...all the while lighting their incense at their alters in hopes of further prosperity and peace, mostly prosperity for themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "The migrants were arrested as illegal immigrants and ferried onto the Thai mainland from a small island in the Andaman Sea, the district chief said on Saturday." Arrested by whom and ferried would be a good place to start any investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya. Yes. And? Still investigating ...?! That was the old government. I doubt they ever even started to investigate. ... ah, how could i forget ... well, guess we're at least 2 in doubting then ... How convenient political stalemate or a little overthrow can be once in a while! So the blokes can praise their Allah with full-throat, after all they made it onto mainland and didn't end up on a year-long 'fishingtrip' helping out Thai fishing industry a bit ... then again, could happen still as was shown so hopefully the good Phil & HumanRightsWatch are keeping a few eyes on them. Phil Robertson, deputy director of Human Rights Watch's Asia division, described the abductions as a "horrifying new twist" to the already "systematic abuses of Rohingya boat people". ... so the 'systematic abuse' just switched from Vietnamese to Rohingya boat-people so to speak ... disgusting state of things indeed. But then again i do believe i read not so long ago that Thaild. was 'cleared' from human trafficking concerns the USofA brought up, no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 "The migrants were arrested as illegal immigrants and ferried onto the Thai mainland from a small island in the Andaman Sea, the district chief said on Saturday." Arrested by whom and ferried would be a good place to start any investigation. Why didn't they just ferry em back to Myanmar and save a lot of hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFong Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The news from Thailand just gets worse and worse, It makes me wonder if westerners days are numbered there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya. Yes. And? Still investigating ...?! That was the old government. I doubt they ever even started to investigate. ... ah, how could i forget ... well, guess we're at least 2 in doubting then ... How convenient political stalemate or a little overthrow can be once in a while! So the blokes can praise their Allah with full-throat, after all they made it onto mainland and didn't end up on a year-long 'fishingtrip' helping out Thai fishing industry a bit ... then again, could happen still as was shown so hopefully the good Phil & HumanRightsWatch are keeping a few eyes on them. Phil Robertson, deputy director of Human Rights Watch's Asia division, described the abductions as a "horrifying new twist" to the already "systematic abuses of Rohingya boat people". ... so the 'systematic abuse' just switched from Vietnamese to Rohingya boat-people so to speak ... disgusting state of things indeed. But then again i do believe i read not so long ago that Thaild. was 'cleared' from human trafficking concerns the USofA brought up, no?? No, Thailand has been downgraded to Tier 3 by US State Dept. List of Tier 3 countries at http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2014/226649.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 ...can anyone explain the constant..........unchecked.......flow of 'illegal workers'......into this country.......??? ...everyone else......trying to adhere to the immigration laws........can never be 'at ease'...worried to have made a mistake or overlooked something..... ..yet...time and again...almost daily.....we have these reports.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya. Yes. And? Still investigating ...?! That was the old government. I doubt they ever even started to investigate. ... ah, how could i forget ... well, guess we're at least 2 in doubting then ... How convenient political stalemate or a little overthrow can be once in a while! So the blokes can praise their Allah with full-throat, after all they made it onto mainland and didn't end up on a year-long 'fishingtrip' helping out Thai fishing industry a bit ... then again, could happen still as was shown so hopefully the good Phil & HumanRightsWatch are keeping a few eyes on them. Phil Robertson, deputy director of Human Rights Watch's Asia division, described the abductions as a "horrifying new twist" to the already "systematic abuses of Rohingya boat people". ... so the 'systematic abuse' just switched from Vietnamese to Rohingya boat-people so to speak ... disgusting state of things indeed. But then again i do believe i read not so long ago that Thaild. was 'cleared' from human trafficking concerns the USofA brought up, no?? No, Thailand has been downgraded to Tier 3 by US State Dept. List of Tier 3 countries at http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2014/226649.htm ... thanks for the interesting link, yes, that's more like it! Sure as hell they had it coming & long since for that matter, greedy stonehearted bastards ... I'm still pretty sure i read everything was like cut & dry in that departement, mind you, must have been one of these sophisticated Thai publications then of which we had a few recently ... already starting propaganda of Northkorean layout? Well, lucky me, i don't own a bible ... Edited October 13, 2014 by jollyhangmon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrY Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Honestly, 2 men arrested for holding 53 hostage..? Please. And all I've seen in the news is that the U.S. downgraded Thailand to Tier 3, but lauded Thailand's 'efforts' to combat human trafficking and did not impose sanctions. Correction: It actually says two Thai men were charged for human trafficking. Maybe they weren't even arrested.... Edited October 13, 2014 by MrY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Honestly, 2 men arrested for holding 53 hostage..? Please. And all I've seen in the news is that the U.S. downgraded Thailand to Tier 3, but lauded Thailand's 'efforts' to combat human trafficking and did not impose sanctions. Correction: It actually says two Thai men were charged for human trafficking. Maybe they weren't even arrested.... My sentiments exactly about just 2 suckers charged; then it was probably that (diplomatic) laudatio you mention that i keep remembering ... Damn, just noticed your - how's it called? - 'footnote' >"Everybody knows you never go Full Thai. You went Full Thai, man. Never go Full Thai." ‒ Tropic Thailand< ... now that's quite a genuine lol & +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrY Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Honestly, 2 men arrested for holding 53 hostage..? Please. And all I've seen in the news is that the U.S. downgraded Thailand to Tier 3, but lauded Thailand's 'efforts' to combat human trafficking and did not impose sanctions. Correction: It actually says two Thai men were charged for human trafficking. Maybe they weren't even arrested.... My sentiments exactly about just 2 suckers charged; then it was probably that (diplomatic) laudatio you mention that i keep remembering ... Damn, just noticed your - how's it called? - 'footnote' >"Everybody knows you never go Full Thai. You went Full Thai, man. Never go Full Thai." ‒ Tropic Thailand< ... now that's quite a genuine lol & +1 Kudos for being the first to notice! You'll also get an 'Attaboy' sticker if you know the original one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 one boatload of scapegoats for any kind of comming crimes check ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Bangladeshi slaves rescued from jungle in Thailand Dozens of Bangladeshis have been rescued after being abducted and shipped to Thailand to be sold as slaves. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-29665636 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Don't worry BJ and his friends will be along soon to tell us how we are all wrong and it never really happened and even if it did it is worse elsewhere....gotta love those apologists!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 For once a good piece by J. Head. Interestingly the Headman did not involve the police. The government wants to treat them as illegal immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArfurMaggot Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Any speculation here as to whether the two men arrested were itinerant, Burmese workers, who have made full confessions? I should imagine that, by now, this is an air-tight case! Seriously though, the report on BBC World this morning stated that those being held captive where released by a local Mayor leading his own security team to a reported camp site in his region. The Mayor stated that he and his group took this action themselves because the local police could not be trusted and were believed to be involved in the trafficking. He also stated that he has further information that there are other camps/prisons in the jungle in the area. The journalist reported a comment that there were previous cases of victims, being held as illegal immigrant in prison, before being released back into the hands of their captors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Thailand said last year it was investigating allegations that some army officials in the kingdom were involved in the trafficking of Rohingya. Yes. And? Still investigating ...?! That was the old government. I doubt they ever even started to investigate. Since the new Government is the Army, I won't hold my breath this time round either. I expect that poor sod of a headman who exposed it will come to an unpleasant end as well - brave bloke that he seems to be. Edited October 19, 2014 by JAG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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