Can Anyone Help With A Couple Things ?

[DIMESTOREROCK]

Hey everyone. I was hoping someone could give me some advice on a couple things. Firstly i need to find somewhere in Pattaya i can apply for an Artist (music) or Musican work permit and roughly how much it costs and secondly when I was in Pattaya last month i spotted a few places to rent for 5000 - 6000 baht per month. Does anyone know the best cleanest place to rent for this sort of price? Aslong as it has a bed, air con and a shower, im not fussy. thanks for you input.

Cheers

CJ

Edited July 27, 2006 by DIMESTOREROCK

[davethailand]

Hey everyone. I was hoping someone could give me some advice on a couple things. Firstly i need to find somewhere in Pattaya i can apply for an Artist (music) or Musican work permit and roughly how much it costs and secondly when I was in Pattaya last month i spotted a few places to rent for 5000 - 6000 baht per month. Does anyone know the best cleanest place to rent for this sort of price? Aslong as it has a bed, air con and a shower, im not fussy. thanks for you input.

Cheers

CJ

Where will you be working?

Your permit needs to state this even if you are under contract with an agent.

People will tell you 5000-6000bht for a permit but i'd wager that you need to pay a bit more than that.

do you know about paying taxes etc?

[DIMESTOREROCK]

Ah i never realised you had to state where you are working if you have an artists visa. I wasnt planning on settling in one work place so it could be tricky. Not sure about the taxes either!

[davethailand]

Ah i never realised you had to state where you are working if you have an artists visa. I wasnt planning on settling in one work place so it could be tricky. Not sure about the taxes either!

Unfortunatley you have to be down as working somewhere, you can't get a permit that allows you to play whereever you want, although as said if you're with an agent there might be something you can do.

You will have to pay salary tax on 50000bht per month.

[percy2]

Ah i never realised you had to state where you are working if you have an artists visa. I wasnt planning on settling in one work place so it could be tricky. Not sure about the taxes either!

Unfortunatley you have to be down as working somewhere, you can't get a permit that allows you to play whereever you want, although as said if you're with an agent there might be something you can do.

You will have to pay salary tax on 50000bht per month.

Aren't artists part of a special category like journalists?

You'd get a better response if a Mod would move this to the Visa section.

edit for poor spelling

Edited July 27, 2006 by percy2

[monty]

Concurr on the 50000 Baht salary,

Although me and my partner don't need to use the workpermit to extend our stay, the Chonburi Labour department still demanded we pay tax on 50,000 Baht/month...

Minimum witholding tax is 1,500 Baht (3%), to be paid monthly, but your total taxburden on an income of 600000 Baht/year will be 40,200 Baht/year.

You're allowed a deduction of 60,000 Baht and and an allowance of 30,000 Baht/year, resulting in a taxable income of 510,000 Baht. Between 0 and 100,000 Baht you pay 0% tax, the part between 100,000 and 500,000 Baht you pay 10% and between 500,000 and 1,000,000 you pay 20%.

[percy2]

Concurr on the 50000 Baht salary,

Although me and my partner don't need to use the workpermit to extend our stay, the Chonburi Labour department still demanded we pay tax on 50,000 Baht/month...

Minimum witholding tax is 1,500 Baht (3%), to be paid monthly, but your total taxburden on an income of 600000 Baht/year will be 40,200 Baht/year.

You're allowed a deduction of 60,000 Baht and and an allowance of 30,000 Baht/year, resulting in a taxable income of 510,000 Baht. Between 0 and 100,000 Baht you pay 0% tax, the part between 100,000 and 500,000 Baht you pay 10% and between 500,000 and 1,000,000 you pay 20%.

http://www.thaivisa.com/518.0.html

In May 2002, the Department of Employment has announced with approval

from the Minister of Labour and Social Welfare the new Procedure Order

governing criteria and condition for expatriate's work permit approval.

This new procedure order revises the old regulations governing work

permit approval, renewal and modification of employment descriptions or

locations of a workplace.

According to the procedure order, the permit may be granted to an

expatriate who has the qualification according to one of these

conditions:

1. Working for an establishment with a registered capital of at

least 2,000,000 Baht. One expatriate can be hired for every 2,000,000

Baht of capital but not more than 10 expatriates.

Supported Document:

- The Certificate of juristic person registration with a fully

paid-up capital not less than 2,000,000 Baht and a copy of the list of

shareholders (Form Bor-Or-Jor 5).

- Financial statement with an initial working capital not less

than 2,000,000 Baht certified by a certified auditor And after

deduction of debts, loans and other expenses, the establishment must

have assets as cash or bank deposit not less than 2,000,000 Baht.

- Account transaction to proof cash transacting in the bank for

business transaction in the amount not less than 2,000,000 Baht.

2. Working in an establishment, which has already paid income tax

for juristic company to the Revenue Department in the past 3 years not

less than 5,000,000 Baht. For every 5,000,000 Baht tax payment is

allowed to hire 1 expatriate.

Supported Document:

- Form of tax payment on juristic person (Por Nkor Dor 91) and

the receipt from the Revenue Department

3. Working for an establishment, which engages in export business

and remit foreign currency of at least the equivalent of 3,000,000 Baht

last year. For every 3,000,000 Baht, an establishment is allowed to

hire 1 expatriate but not more than 3 expatriates.

Supported Document:

- A copy of Bill of Lading submitted to the Custom Department

stating the total value of export goods.

4. Working in an establishment, which employs 50 Thai employees.

An establishment is allowed to hire 1 expatriate for every 50 Thai

employees but not more than 5 expatriates in total.

Supported Document:

- The proof of payment paid toward the Social Security Fund.

5. An expatriate having an income and duty to pay personal income

tax to the Revenue Department of equivalent or more than 18,000 Baht, or

already paid personal income tax in the past year of equivalent or more

than 18,000 Baht.

Supported Document:

- If an expatriate has never worked in the Kingdom, he must

provide the employment contract to the officer in order to estimate an

expatriate's ability to pay such tax. Accordingly, in the case of

single expatriates, he must have personal income of at least 30,000

Baht, and in the case of married expatriate, he must have personal

income of at least 45,000 Baht per month.

- If an expatriate used to have the permit, he must present

proof of personal income tax payment of equivalent or more than 18,000

Baht along with a receipt from the Revenue Department.

Moreover, the Authorized Officers, on reasonable grounds, may consider

work permit approval, renewal, and modification of employment

descriptions and positions or locations of workplace regardless of

restrictions on the number of expatriates stated above, if the work

falls under the followings:

1. Representative office conducting quality control, procurement,

or marketing research.

Supported Document:

- The Business Operation License according to the Foreign Business

Operations Act B.E. 2542 (2002).

2. The work in investment consulting, administrative consulting,

technical and technology, or periodical internal audit.

Supported Document:

- Consulting contract with both parties' official seals.

3. Tourism representatives who bring in foreigners to travel in

Thailand.

Supported Document:

- Tourist agent permit issued by Thai Tourism Authority.

4. International financial institutions approved by the Bank of

Thailand.

5. Temporary business of entertainment, religious, social welfare,

cultural or sporting without intention to make profit and paying income

tax to the government.

6. Working as a contractor on projects with the governmental bodies

or state enterprises.

Supported Document:

- A supporting letter stating the number of expatriates,

expatriate's names and positions.

7. Work using mostly local raw material as an essential component

in the production process or work that can reduce the use of imported

raw material.

8. Work supporting export of Thai products.

9. Work, which brings new technology, which Thai people are not

capable of, in order to distribute and transfer to Thai people.

10. Work in the area where there is a shortage of Thai labour.

11. Having a residency in the Kingdom.

Supported Document:

- A resident permit or certificate of foreigners.

12. Being a married couple with Thai citizen, with legally married

registration, publicly cohabiting as husband and wife, and

with a legal profession, which is socially respectable.

Obviously this isn't current but I can't find the current rules anybody know a link where to find them?

5. Refers to Entertainers being excempt.

11. Is also interesting that if you have residency you are "entitled" (maybe too strong a word) to a WP.

ps sorry for the long quote.