Yingluck impeachment proceedings in 25 days, says NLA

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Yingluck impeachment proceedings in 25 days, says NLA
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- National Legislative Assembly (NLA) vice-president Surachai Liengboonlertchai said yesterday the impeachment proceedings against ex-PM Yingluck Shinawatra would take no more than 25 days.

Yingluck faces impeachment proceedings for alleged failure to stop corruption in her government's rice-pledging scheme, after NLA president Pornpetch Wichitcholchai said the case would be on the agenda for the NLA meeting on November 12.

Surachai said the proceedings would take no more than 25 days after the NLA holds its first meeting on the case on November 12.

He said at the first meeting, the assembly would schedule a date for Yingluck and the National Anti-Corruption Commission to give an opening statement and then deliberations would begin.

Both parties are entitled to submit additional evidence to the assembly if either believes the suit is incomplete.

If Yingluck is impeached, she could face a political ban of five years.

Former Pheu Thai party-list MP Weng Tojirakarn urged the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to stop the NLA from pursuing the impeachment of Yingluck, saying the NACC had not been able to give the attorney-general proof of graft to substantiate the charge against Yingluck.

He said the Office of the Attorney-General had set up a joint panel with the NACC to find more evidence, but NACC has rushed to seek her impeachment.

"The NACC is breaking the law and this makes the public believe that Yingluck is not receiving justice. It is like an endless revenge and could provoke turmoil again,'' he warned.

Former Pheu Thai Party MP Amnuay Khlangpha urged the NLA to give justice to Yingluck, saying the assembly should not rush but make a decision carefully.

He said Yingluck should not be blamed for the losses in the rice-pledging scheme because as PM she had the duty of taking care of farmers just like PM Prayut Chan-o-cha does.

He said owners of rice warehouses must take responsibility for losses or damage incurred to rice stored in their warehouses. He urged the NLA to resolve what had caused losses to the rice-pledging scheme.

"We want to know if the damage was caused by rains or poor storage. Yingluck should not be blamed alone.'

Meanwhile, the NLA yesterday selected five members of the Constitution Drafting Committee to work on the NLA agenda.

They are Distat Hotrakitya, secretary-general of the Office of the Council of State, Kanchanaratt Leevirojana, a member of the Council of State, Taweesak Suthakavatin, chairman of the lecturers' council of the National Institute of Development Administration, Wutisak Lapcharoensap, rector of Ramkhamhaeng University, and General Yodyuth Boonyatikarn, an economic adviser to the NC P Order.

The selection was made behind closed doors. A total of 182 NLA members were present. Each was allowed to vote for not more than five NLA members.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-impeachment-proceedings-in-25-days-says-N-30246650.html


-- The Nation 2014-10-31

[kurnell]

Who cares. Everybody in the world knows that hideous family is corrupt but keep playing this game where we pretend we don't know. Sad Thailand.

[RustBucket]

I wonder where the guilty verdict is going to lead next? I would say the natural direction is to charge her for criminal negligence. Seeing as the Finance Ministry has revealed that between 700 and 800 Billion is lost and will take 30 years to repay.

That is around 12,000 baht for every man woman and child in Thailand.

Or 53,000 for every person that voted her into power.

Or 180,000 for every rice farming household.

That's what her and her cronies have done to Thailand.

She deserves all she gets, she was warned by multiple sources including the likes of the IMF and World Bank and she just poo poo'd then away. I hope she rots in prison for a long time, and not just her.... Everyone involved. Going on the run as an international fugitive, never being able to return here will serve as a good second best result.

Has she come back yet?

Edited October 31, 2014 by RustBucket

[ramrod711]

Surachai said the proceedings would take no more than 25 days after the NLA holds its first meeting on the case on November 12.

Seems a bit, "First we'll have a fair trial, and then hang her", but in this case there is no doubt.

If Yingluck is impeached, she could face a political ban of five years.

That's the worst that will happen to her, there will be no jail. Oddly enough, not sending her to jail will do more to achieve "reconciliation" than the amnesty bill that got her expelled.

[thesetat2013]

He said Yingluck should not be blamed for the losses in the rice-pledging scheme because as PM she had the duty of taking care of farmers just like PM Prayut Chan-o-cha does.

She is not being blamed as her position as the PM. She is being blamed as her position as Head of the Committee for that project.

She should be made to pay back this country with her own money and assets. Her own lack of concern and disregard to independent reports is the reason she is in this mess to begin with.

[ginjag]

Strange, she just delayed her return trip back to Thailand for some unknown reason. Initially she was taking her son to Disney Japan, then altered her travel and went else ware --now a delayed return ???

[The stuttering parrot]

See the kangaroo court is back up and running full steam ahead.

Don't worry about evidence or a fair trial lets just put on an show and have her impeached within 25 days .

Bugger all the outstanding class about the yellow elite dems let's just hang her high and let's get the nation on board as that's the bible for the yellow dems they just lap this up.

Worst case scenario for the dems is a 5 year ban as thus will just outrage the the people of Thailand who elected her through the democratic process as she will come back bigger and better than ever.

Also nice tactics while she is away hoping she won't come back.

Last time she went overseas the yellow junta supporters on here were cock a hoop and steadfastly stated that she would never return.

Well she came back and left egg over all their faces and have a look their thirsty for more.

Anyway wouldn't blame her not coming back as they are pulling out all stops to discredit her via media before they charge her under the 2007 act which was ruled illegal in another case.

[Boxclever]

What a farce! And how about the billions in subsidies the Junta is handing out now? Rice subsidies - Rubber subsidies - mega projects - free land to the poor...same same but different?

[lomatopo]

I think everyone understands that the goal is to prevent her from being elected again, rather than throwing her in jail.

While the Junta, and their sponsors, have many efforts underway to insure that the populace will be prevented from directly electing a government in the future, these efforts to investigate, adjudicate and punish past governments (OK, just the Red ones) will further limit future governments, even those chosen by the Amart. Unless they are granted amnesty. The current "government" is of course immune from these types of efforts as they have pre-granted themselves full amnesty.

Edited October 31, 2014 by lomatopo

[cloudhopper]

What a farce! And how about the billions in subsidies the Junta is handing out now? Rice subsidies - Rubber subsidies - mega projects - free land to the poor...same same but different?

As much as I disapproved of the Shinawatra reigns I find myself in agreement - increasingly same same and not really so different. Too bad.

[ginjag]

See the kangaroo court is back up and running full steam ahead.

Don't worry about evidence or a fair trial lets just put on an show and have her impeached within 25 days .

Bugger all the outstanding class about the yellow elite dems let's just hang her high and let's get the nation on board as that's the bible for the yellow dems they just lap this up.

Worst case scenario for the dems is a 5 year ban as thus will just outrage the the people of Thailand who elected her through the democratic process as she will come back bigger and better than ever.

Also nice tactics while she is away hoping she won't come back.

Last time she went overseas the yellow junta supporters on here were cock a hoop and steadfastly stated that she would never return.

Well she came back and left egg over all their faces and have a look their thirsty for more.

Anyway wouldn't blame her not coming back as they are pulling out all stops to discredit her via media before they charge her under the 2007 act which was ruled illegal in another case.

Thaksins defense was always --to discredit him, sounds like your just repeating the same rhetoric.

Just look at it and devour what actually happened. TWO topics this morning have spelt it out quite clear and your still hard at it with the denial.

Referring back to Yellows--Dems-and anything that may deflect the wrongs the SHINS did, and PTP hanging on to the bits in the wallet.

We all no the RHETORIC, politically motivated. Lame dog sick pig excuse for GREED. and power.

If I liked the party and voted them in, I would have been the first to smell a rat and wanted them out, but some on here would never think of doing that, they are trying to save face.

[chainarong]

Thailand is indeed a strange country when it comes down to its leaders , in the U.S.A , OZ, NZ ,UK the political parties and leaders can run the country into the ground , stuff the economy on bad decisions , place untold people on the scrap heap, declare wars they don't win and all that happens is the opposition is voted in to do the same all over again , all I am saying is that leaders in other countries make horrendous stuff ups, some that have momentous implications to individuals (WMD) then retire and go on speakers forum tours and earn great sums of money.. That's my thoughts, Sticky rice anyone.

[dru2]

See the kangaroo court is back up and running full steam ahead.

Don't worry about evidence or a fair trial lets just put on an show and have her impeached within 25 days .

Bugger all the outstanding class about the yellow elite dems let's just hang her high and let's get the nation on board as that's the bible for the yellow dems they just lap this up.

Worst case scenario for the dems is a 5 year ban as thus will just outrage the the people of Thailand who elected her through the democratic process as she will come back bigger and better than ever.

Also nice tactics while she is away hoping she won't come back.

Last time she went overseas the yellow junta supporters on here were cock a hoop and steadfastly stated that she would never return.

Well she came back and left egg over all their faces and have a look their thirsty for more.

Anyway wouldn't blame her not coming back as they are pulling out all stops to discredit her via media before they charge her under the 2007 act which was ruled illegal in another case.

See the stuttering parrot is back in full apologia mode. How disagreeable.

[ChesterB]

Strange, she just delayed her return trip back to Thailand for some unknown reason. Initially she was taking her son to Disney Japan, then altered her travel and went else ware --now a delayed return ???

Yingluck departed to Japan along with her son and his friends on Oct 19 and is scheduled to return on Oct 26.

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/wn/newsworld.php?id=1078791

[lomatopo]

Thailand is indeed a strange country when it comes down to its leaders ,

Well, the Red ones anyway.

The Good People's "leaders" be they Democrats or Field Marshals always seem to be revered, and immune from prosecution, even when they murder thousands of their fellow citizens and run the country into the ground, repeatedly.

[ginjag]

Strange, she just delayed her return trip back to Thailand for some unknown reason. Initially she was taking her son to Disney Japan, then altered her travel and went else ware --now a delayed return ???

Yingluck departed to Japan along with her son and his friends on Oct 19 and is scheduled to return on Oct 26.

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/wn/newsworld.php?id=1078791

You didn't read yesterday of her delayed return, The defense minister went to Chine to pave the way for the PMs visit and mentioned Yinglucks delayed return. look it up...............just thought it was a coincidence with the days only left for the proceedings ???

[ChesterB]

Strange, she just delayed her return trip back to Thailand for some unknown reason. Initially she was taking her son to Disney Japan, then altered her travel and went else ware --now a delayed return ???

Yingluck departed to Japan along with her son and his friends on Oct 19 and is scheduled to return on Oct 26.

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/wn/newsworld.php?id=1078791

You didn't read yesterday of her delayed return, The defense minister went to Chine to pave the way for the PMs visit and mentioned Yinglucks delayed return. look it up...............just thought it was a coincidence with the days only left for the proceedings ???

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I haven't seen that delay and change of itinerary, but it's consistent. Her previous trip in July was also modified (without prior notification) and extended. Seems she can't plan a straight-forward trip of more than a few days to save her life. But alas, such is the frivolity of life for a billionaire when buying 30 pearl necklaces becomes a priority.

.

Edited October 31, 2014 by ChesterB

[ginjag]

Strange, she just delayed her return trip back to Thailand for some unknown reason. Initially she was taking her son to Disney Japan, then altered her travel and went else ware --now a delayed return ???

Yingluck departed to Japan along with her son and his friends on Oct 19 and is scheduled to return on Oct 26.

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v7/wn/newsworld.php?id=1078791

You didn't read yesterday of her delayed return, The defense minister went to Chine to pave the way for the PMs visit and mentioned Yinglucks delayed return. look it up...............just thought it was a coincidence with the days only left for the proceedings ???

.

I haven't seen that delay and change of itinerary, but it's consistent. Her previous trip in July was also modified (without prior notification) and extended. Seems she can't plan a straight-forward trip of more than a few days to save her life. But alas, such is the frivolity of life for a billionaire when buying 30 pearl necklaces becomes a priority.

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Just wonder if she will have to pay OVERSTAY fees

[Robby nz]

He said Yingluck should not be blamed for the losses in the rice-pledging scheme because as PM she had the duty of taking care of farmers just like PM Prayut Chan-o-cha does.

Now there would be a great reason for her to be blamed.

She did not do her duty to take care of the farmers.

They are deeper in debt than they have ever been, 20% of the rice they grew and trustingly sold to the Yingluck administration is now inedible, another 70% is in poor condition.

For more reasons read yesterdays editorial in the BKK post "Time for rice graft justice"

[recycled]

See the kangaroo court is back up and running full steam ahead.

Don't worry about evidence or a fair trial lets just put on an show and have her impeached within 25 days .

Bugger all the outstanding class about the yellow elite dems let's just hang her high and let's get the nation on board as that's the bible for the yellow dems they just lap this up.

Worst case scenario for the dems is a 5 year ban as thus will just outrage the the people of Thailand who elected her through the democratic process as she will come back bigger and better than ever.

Also nice tactics while she is away hoping she won't come back.

Last time she went overseas the yellow junta supporters on here were cock a hoop and steadfastly stated that she would never return.

Well she came back and left egg over all their faces and have a look their thirsty for more.

Anyway wouldn't blame her not coming back as they are pulling out all stops to discredit her via media before they charge her under the 2007 act which was ruled illegal in another case.

You and your likewise cronies are tired individuals with the same rhetoric day in and day out. Bottom line, if you want to be in charge, the buck stops with you.

[ginjag]

The buck Didn't stop with abhisit or sutep ordering the slaughter of civilians.

Yellows get a free ride reds get a bullet.

Eg yellows block an international airport cause massive disruption around the world because they can't win.

End result untouchable!

Ordering the slaughter of civilians ??? REDS have never been at fault, it is always the others according to the sand dune spokesperson.

Please note the diversion used by Mr. Parrot.

The reds had a considerable arsenal,.................................. the yellows ??................

Edited October 31, 2014 by ginjag

[rickirs]

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I wonder where the guilty verdict is going to lead next? I would say the natural direction is to charge her for criminal negligence. Seeing as the Finance Ministry has revealed that between 700 and 800 Billion is lost and will take 30 years to repay.

That is around 12,000 baht for every man woman and child in Thailand.

Or 53,000 for every person that voted her into power.

Or 180,000 for every rice farming household.

That's what her and her cronies have done to Thailand.

She deserves all she gets, she was warned by multiple sources including the likes of the IMF and World Bank and she just poo poo'd then away. I hope she rots in prison for a long time, and not just her.... Everyone involved. Going on the run as an international fugitive, never being able to return here will serve as a good second best result.

Has she come back yet?

Payoff in seven years but that does not include the additional funds borrowed by the Junta to provide additional subsidies to rice and rubber farmers to guarantee profits regardless of the market prices for 2014 and beyond.

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7 years needed to clear rice debts: BAAC
The Nation 2014-09-17

BANGKOK: -- The Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives believes it will take about seven years to clear the Bt755 billion in debts related to the previous governments' rice-pledging projects.

[rickirs]

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He said Yingluck should not be blamed for the losses in the rice-pledging scheme because as PM she had the duty of taking care of farmers just like PM Prayut Chan-o-cha does.

Now there would be a great reason for her to be blamed.

She did not do her duty to take care of the farmers.

They are deeper in debt than they have ever been, 20% of the rice they grew and trustingly sold to the Yingluck administration is now inedible, another 70% is in poor condition.

For more reasons read yesterdays editorial in the BKK post "Time for rice graft justice"

The NCPO concluded its rice audit in July 2013 and found that the rice in less than 10% of the government stockpile stored in provencial granaries was poor or bad. At that time Gen. Prayut announced that the remaining 90+% would be sold off at a rate of 500,000 tons per month. TV published this Nation article.

[bristolgeoff]

if they are charges and a chance inside the Bangkok Hilton.watch her run as fast as her legs will go to brother help and bring the plane for me and my son

[ratcatcher]

if they are charges and a chance inside the Bangkok Hilton.watch her run as fast as her legs will go to brother help and bring the plane for me and my son

I doubt Yingluck has ever been to Bang Kwang but people of her ilk do not get invited to test the facilities. I personally doubt she'll ever do time inside, but may just be banned from politics for a period. Strange things happen here to the elite..

[Cuchulainn]

For life, Ratty, for life.

[whybother]

The buck Didn't stop with abhisit or sutep ordering the slaughter of civilians.

Yellows get a free ride reds get a bullet.

Eg yellows block an international airport cause massive disruption around the world because they can't win.

End result untouchable!

That's because they didn't order the slaughter of civilians.

[rickirs]

The legal system now in Thailand seems to be very arbritary. But with human rights abolished by the Junta's discard of the 2007 Constitution, who would be surprised?

On the one hand the NACC's complaint of Yingluck's criminal dereliction of duty/graft was refused by the Attorney General's Office for indictment and remains on hold pending further development of the charges by NACC. If and when the AGO indicts Yingluck, then the case will go to trial to determine guilt or innocence.

On the other hand NACC has submitted its complaint to the NLA for impeachment and it seems that the NLA will act on that complaint.

So in essence there are TWO criminal proceedings for the same charge being brought against Yingluck. How is that fair justice?

And what if the NLA finds Yingluck culpable of dereliction of duty, impeaches her, but the AGO never indicts Yingluck or either the AGO or NACC take Yingluck to trial and she is found INNOCENT? Or what if she is found guilty but the decision is overruled by the Sureme Court? Such trial actions might not take place until 2015.

Even more bizarre is that the charges are based on the authority of the 2007 Constitution that no longer has the force of law because it was replaced by the Junta's 2014 Interim Constitution. And the IC does not provide for impeachment of officials. When the NLA asked the Junta for guidance on that issue, the Junta responded that it's up to the NLA. This insinuates that there is also unwritten law ("do what you want") that will be applied as the occassion arises.

For a government that is so focused on returning Thailand to democracy, its handling of the complaint against Yingluck would seem to mock democracy and the rule of law.

[Baerboxer]

The buck Didn't stop with abhisit or sutep ordering the slaughter of civilians.

Yellows get a free ride reds get a bullet.

Eg yellows block an international airport cause massive disruption around the world because they can't win.

End result untouchable!

That's because they didn't order the slaughter of civilians.

Indeed. But somebody did in 2014.

[Baerboxer]

if they are charges and a chance inside the Bangkok Hilton.watch her run as fast as her legs will go to brother help and bring the plane for me and my son

I doubt Yingluck has ever been to Bang Kwang but people of her ilk do not get invited to test the facilities. I personally doubt she'll ever do time inside, but may just be banned from politics for a period. Strange things happen here to the elite..

I think you are right, sadly. She will get a ban, just like several other members of her family. She won't care. Plenty of money in the kitty - she will have a wonderful live. Unlike all those lives ruined by debt, suicide and murder during her watch and in her name.