Lite Beer Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Former CIB chief and five officers sacked BANGKOK: -- Former commissioner of Central Investigation Bureau Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayapan and his five subordinates were too sacked from the police service retroactively until November 23. Pol Gen Somyot Poompunmuang, the national police chief, signed an order expelling Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat, Pol Maj-Gen Kowit Wongrungroj, Pol Maj-Gen Boonsueb Praithoen, Pol Col Wutthichart Luensukhan, Pol Actin Sub-Lt Surasak Chan-ngao and Pol Acting Sub-Lt Chattarin Laothong from police service.The six police officers were suspended from duty on November 23 after they were charged with lese majeste, taking bribes and other criminal offences.The expulsion order was a followup of a screening committee’s ruling that they deserved to be sacked. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/former-cib-chief-five-officers-sacked -- The Nation 2014-12-27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NongKhaiKid Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) No need to rush anything in LoS. Life in the fast lane. Just how long was he and his associates at it apparently unnoticed then all of a sudden ! Edited December 27, 2014 by NongKhaiKid 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Just another secret inactive post in the making,.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Police sacked for corruption, Thailand NASA, cure for ebola..........something new every week........ there is no end to their innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Aren't there any positions available in the Inactive Post Department? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tatsujin Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Aren't there any positions available in the Inactive Post Department? You might have missed it in the news, but apparently the budget for the newly formed RTP "Inactive Post Division" was just recently approved, and it's a BIG budget in preparation for the large numbers of RTP officers who will need moving somewhere out of the way. The second line budget item was specifically targeted for Govt officials, and that's even larger. And in other unrelated news, the Military are giving themselves a nice big bonus at New Year for doing such a sterling job recently, everyone gets a raise except the "watermelon" reds. Edited December 27, 2014 by Tatsujin 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 ........... Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayapan and his five subordinates were too sacked................ He was too sacked for being too naughty???! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I believe all the governing parties in power have known about the high level corruption in the police since the start. Nothing was ever done about it until now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) When are the charges to be heard in court? Are their pension still valid? Or this this going to be another case of forget and forgive? Edited December 27, 2014 by Keesters 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMA_FARANG Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 When are the charges to be heard in court? Are their pension still valid? Or this this going to be another case of forget and forgive? ---------------------- This case goes really high up in the political and financial elite set. Nothing will be done quickly, those at the top are afraid. They need time to CTA (Cover Their A- -) from any fallout that it might cause. Nothing will be done to fast. I would say, that right now, rats are bailing out from the sinking ship as quickly as they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I wonder if they'll ever become "influential inmates" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrinque Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I believe that the matter of so many police and others being moved to "Inactive posts" rather than sacked has something to do with the employment laws in Thailand. It is very difficult to sack ANY personnel after they have served a certain minimum length of time in their employment. It then takes very serious proof of misdemeanour or other before they can actually be dismissed. I MAY be mistaken, there is a first time for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JOC Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2014 ........... Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayapan and his five subordinates were too sacked................ He was too sacked for being too naughty???! More like being too related!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post binjalin Posted December 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2014 ........... Pol Lt-Gen Pongpat Chayapan and his five subordinates were too sacked................ He was too sacked for being too naughty???! More like being too related!! that's not niece! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Not questioning the veracity of the accusations--they may (or may not) be true--but I wonder if this more of a political move than a genuine effort to fight to end corruption. Throwing in the LM charge certainly makes it look that way... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokfrog Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Does anyone know if this also means stripped of rank and benefits? In most countries, police charged with corruption would be suspended with or without pay pending a fair trial. Also, what about another ex-cop living overseas who still seems to hold his rank even though he has actually been tried and convicted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKUNPUTAF713 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Sorry, but police (in general) pun intended have not been sacked for corruption, only a couple policemen have been sacked! There has not been any concerted effort to go after the police force for corruption. Everyone knows how the CIB farce was initiated and why!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Lot of confusion with my Thai colleagues about this. Some say the usual form is that rank is retained until conviction, others that rank is retained until all avenues of appeal are exhausted (hence the ref to the Thaksinator). For a subcommittee to strip an officer of his rank is very unusual if no formal, internal investigation has been carried out, and I see no mention of such in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimbc Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 All I want to see is that tax dollars are not wasted any more on these criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) I find some of these news sources very unreliable and misleading. Firstly, the guy was as far as I remember commander of the CSD not the larger CIB. Secondly, we all know who gave the orders or do we, if not then it is misleading. Thirdly, Somyot Poompunmuang and his connection to to the Koh Tao case and his connection to the PAD So much that can't be said and so much that will be assumed by many who don't read Thai or follow Thai politics. I sympathize with the press as they just CANT tell us the truth. Edited December 27, 2014 by Neeranam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I find some of these news sources very unreliable and misleading. Firstly, the guy was as far as I remember commander of the CSD not the larger CIB. Secondly, we all know who gave the orders or do we, if not then it is misleading. Thirdly, Somyot Poompunmuang and his connection to to the Koh Tao case and his connection to the PAD So much that can't be said and so much that will be assumed by many who don't read Thai or follow Thai politics. I sympathize with the press as they just CANT tell us the truth. Everything refers to him being the head of the CIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I find some of these news sources very unreliable and misleading. Firstly, the guy was as far as I remember commander of the CSD not the larger CIB. Secondly, we all know who gave the orders or do we, if not then it is misleading. Thirdly, Somyot Poompunmuang and his connection to to the Koh Tao case and his connection to the PAD So much that can't be said and so much that will be assumed by many who don't read Thai or follow Thai politics. I sympathize with the press as they just CANT tell us the truth. Everything refers to him being the head of the CIB. The photograph doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Everything refers to him being the head of the CIB. The photograph doesn't. What in the photo says that he's CSD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Aren't there any positions available in the Inactive Post Department? No...and there is a l....o....n.....g waiting list to get an inactive position. In fact, there has been a big rise in the number of folks on the waiting list over the last few months--plenty of well qualified individuals and more being identified everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Not questioning the veracity of the accusations--they may (or may not) be true--but I wonder if this more of a political move than a genuine effort to fight to end corruption. Throwing in the LM charge certainly makes it look that way... reports from outside of Thailand support your suspicions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well, it could'nt possibly be that cop in the photo, he has got such a nice innocent friendly face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Everything refers to him being the head of the CIB. The photograph doesn't. What in the photo says that he's CSD? the badge om his left arm - กองปราบปราม - Criminal Suppression Division. This Division is the main division of the CIB but the commander of the CIB is not the same as the Commander of the CSD. https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E0%B8%81%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A1&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=AEyeVMmrIoyXuATx54DICQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1315&bih=649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Does anyone know if this also means stripped of rank and benefits? In most countries, police charged with corruption would be suspended with or without pay pending a fair trial. Also, what about another ex-cop living overseas who still seems to hold his rank even though he has actually been tried and convicted? Yes but everybody knows, that was a military inspired political Kangaroo Court. completely different to this lot. Edited December 27, 2014 by oldsailor35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well, it could'nt possibly be that cop in the photo, he has got such a nice innocent friendly face. So did Tony Soprano. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well, it could'nt possibly be that cop in the photo, he has got such a nice innocent friendly face. So did Tony Soprano. Where in the Thai situation does he fit in, and what did he do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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