Why the Muslim 'no-go-zone' myth won't die

[SoiBiker]

It is well known all over Britain about the No go areas over the last 40 or so years in London, and also Birmingham.

Seriously?

Go on then. List the ones in London. This should be a laugh.

It has been all over the papers and has been documented on television often enough, I will name one, what about Brixton? Now this is off topic, and I do not wish to continue this debate. One of the Mods has asked us to stay on topic, and that's the way it should be.

As I've already pointed out, I went to Brixton regularly when I lived in London, and knew several people who lived there.

Hardly a no-go area, is it?

[thailandusauk]

Who can be retarded enough to watch Fox ?

Feel pity for human kind...

[phrodan]

Re this ongoing "who gave you the right," meme -

The myth of the no-go areas continues because people who clearly don't know what they are talking about do the racists and Islamaphobes work for them by propagating the nonsense.

I reserve the right to call out people who post gibbering garbage after admitting they have no clue. Especially when they post links such as in the first reply - and laughable links giving guys like Tommy Robinson any credence.

[Ulysses G.]

Garbage? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw ...

[laislica]

Fox News were guilty of having someone comment on the UK and France who had no first hand experience, hence their ignorance of some details showed. As ever the liberals latch on to this acting as if this means there are no problem areas. This is just ideologically motivated dishonesty. There is a large and growing problem, if the crime statistics are examined in detail this is clear to see.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/robert-spencer/no-no-go-zones-really/

Then we have Tommy Robinson recounting the way Luton has changed. I invite anyone to watch it and draw their own conclusions. Rather more credible than some middle class lib-left academic who would never dream of living in one of the 'mythical' problem areas.

Muslims are allowed to deceive non-Muslims if it helps Islam.

For non-Muslims this principle, called Taqiyya is another surprising concept of Islam.

While most other religions speak highly of truthfulness, the Koran instructs Muslims to lie to non-Muslims about the beliefs and political ambitions to protect and spread Islam.

There are many examples of today's Islamic leaders saying one thing in English for the Western press and then saying something entirely different to their own followers in Arabic a few days later. Deceiving the enemy is always useful in war and Islam is at war with the non-Islamic world until the world follows Sharia law. All non-Muslims living in non-Islamic states are therefore enemies, so deceiving Westerners is totally acceptable, even encouraged if it can forward the goals of the spread of Islam.

As a recent example, Islamic American relief agency was seemingly raising money for orphans but in fact giving the money to terrorists. They deceived goodhearted Western infidels into giving money to organisations that are actively killing Western infidels.

Do the research yourselves, this is not an isolated case.

[NeverSure]

Idiotic stuff

Idiotic stuff like telling people on the Internet that they can't comment on a subject unless they have been there personally? I hope they start enforcing that rule on the anti-American posters.

I'm OK then I was there in June for the umpteenth time.

How the hell did they let YOU in?

[Lissos]

Muslim 'no-go-zone' myth

Probably a case of playing with words.

I suspect the reality is more likely to be - "don't want to go" zones from the people who claim it.

[Steely Dan]

Re this ongoing "who gave you the right," meme -

The myth of the no-go areas continues because people who clearly don't know what they are talking about do the racists and Islamaphobes work for them by propagating the nonsense.

I reserve the right to call out people who post gibbering garbage after admitting they have no clue. Especially when they post links such as in the first reply - and laughable links giving guys like Tommy Robinson any credence.

There you go again, no facts and nothing but insults, you are a true progressive. As for your pet word Islamophobia, The French minister Manuel Vallis just observed it was routinely being misused by those seeking to silence any debate relating to Islam.

[H1w4yR1da]

Who can be retarded enough to watch Fox ?

Feel pity for human kind...

I'll watch all news sources if I can. From Fox News to Al Jazeera.

Dismissing opposing viewpoints out of hand as 'retarded' says more about the poster than the news source.

Though something like Tehran-controlled Press TV can annoy, as I'm sure Fox News does to many on the left.

Edited January 22, 2015 by H1w4yR1da

[DiamondKing]

I am from Birmingham and while the Fox News guy went overboard HE IS SPOT ON ABOUT NO GO ZONES in Birmingham of course Birmingham is not 100% Muslims but certain areas ARE 100% MUSLIM and I challenge any lefty liberal to walk down those areas drinking beer or dressed wrong and I guarantee you will be accosted.

its not PC to say it but NO GO AREAS are in the UK and there have been multiple attacks there is even a sharia Patrol 3 muslims got jailed another Patrol beat up SEVERLY an American tourist who dared walk into the no go area

Here is an American guy interviewing in Burnley and this is EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS you can see how scared the white women are teh one was off as soon as she seen the mob gathering

Sharia Patrol in London

American Tourist beaten severly by Muslim Sharia patrol

I could post more and more

Anyone that says there is not a issue and its growin has their head up their ass and dont want to see it

Edited January 22, 2015 by DiamondKing

[Scott]

Numerous off-topic, inflammatory, troll posts and replies have been removed.

The topic is about Muslim 'no-go-zones'.

[loppylugs1]

I am from Birmingham and while the Fox News guy went overboard HE IS SPOT ON ABOUT NO GO ZONES in Birmingham of course Birmingham is not 100% Muslims but certain areas ARE 100% MUSLIM and I challenge any lefty liberal to walk down those areas drinking beer or dressed wrong and I guarantee you will be accosted.

its not PC to say it but NO GO AREAS are in the UK and there have been multiple attacks there is even a sharia Patrol 3 muslims got jailed another Patrol beat up SEVERLY an American tourist who dared walk into the no go area

Here is an American guy interviewing in Burnley and this is EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS you can see how scared the white women are teh one was off as soon as she seen the mob gathering

Sharia Patrol in London

American Tourist beaten severly by Muslim Sharia patrol

I could post more and more

Anyone that says there is not a issue and its growin has their head up their ass and dont want to see it

You are correct,used to absolutely hate going into Birmingham. Just wonder what agenda the lefties,the loony lefties have in denying it exists,its a scary horrible ,and I mean horrible expirience being there,third world on your doorstep. Something wants doing there to eradicate this problem and restore it to something normal,not ghetto normal either

[NeverSure]

Who can be retarded enough to watch Fox ?

Feel pity for human kind...

People who want to hear all sides. People who don't want to be tricked or misled by EITHER side including just watching the lamestream media.

[boomerangutang]

5 of the top 6 topics are fanatic Muslim-related. They're sure good at hogging the world's headlines. It's like a family with 10 kids. If one kid always plays with firecrackers, and chases the other kids around with a knife while screaming, ....then that kid will get the most attention.

[boomerangutang]

Perhaps Muslim religion is a giant balancing act. Humans have been around for a mere blip, in the history of life on this planet. For the past several hundred years, humans have been waging war on the environment, and nature has lost every battle, except perhaps pathogens, cockroaches and poison oak. Now there's a self-afflicting belief system which keeps 1/8 of the world's humans in its fold (if you want to leave, you get killed). It's a sort of penalty for the all humans (for destroying nature). Radical Muslims don't just target members of their own cult, but target everyone. In their view, everyone who doesn't believe exactly their particular sect believes, are apostates/heretics and must be killed - to avenge their bloodthirsty Prophet/God.

Putting a dent in over-population? Not much, but probably more than Ebola.

[maidee]

self enriching politicians will tell you there is no problem

for 30+ years we can see what kind of invasion has been going on

i worked nearby some of those no-go zones, where police is not patrolling, because they are afraid and don't want to get ambushed or trashed

special zone's where africans rule, others where you think you are in an arab country

where gilrs are called whores if they dont cover head/hair, specially after they decleine their "rude advances"

think what you want, free country, sort off...

[tartempion]

I got lost driving in Chicago around 19h, a police car stopped me and ordered me out, "U-turn here and now sir!"

I got lost South of Atlanta airport and got out myself.

I walked over a bridge in New York and what I saw made me run to the nearest subway station and get back to civilization.

There are areas in Brussels where I used to wander when I was young (from 1960 to 2000)

I had a walk around recently and I won't be seen there no longer, I did feet like in Marrakesh though.

Needless to say Marrakesh is not an inviting place.

I would call these places ghettos.

Hey, Marrakesh is actually a fairly nice city, well, the old town.

Your "ghetto" attractes more than 10 million tourists per year but

suppose one has to have been or lived there, to appreciate it ;-)

Ha, well in Marrakash as soon as I walked out of my hotel I would be surrounded and accompanied by a least 10 Moroccan men shouting Guide, Camel market, Soukh. They would follow me all over town. You could not walk 5m on Djema Ell Fna market without being harassed by some idiot.

The same would happen driving around teh country and stopping anywhere to have a look around.

One man even had teh brilliant idea to tell me :Give me 50 dhiram and I will chase the touts away for you, but I swiveled my photo camera around my head to keep them at a distance. Doing so gets tiring however after some time. I stopped at a cafe to have a drink and a few would just sit around waiting I would continue my walk.

Marrakesh a fairly nice city, yes, if you stay inside La Mamounia.

BTW, no need to travel to Marrakesh, the Sunday morning market at Gare du Midi Brussels will do. I did like that place in my early Belgian years, might visit next trip to Brussels April 2015.

Edited January 22, 2015 by tartempion

[DiamondKing]

Here is a website that puts the proof out there that there are Muslim No Go areas all over France there is even a link to a documentary that the french did that shows these areas and when a policeman went in he was attacked and had to use a shotgun to protect himself from the muslim mob.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/european-no-go-zones-fact-or-fiction

[phrodan]

Garbage? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw ...

People that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't spread lies on the Internet -

I refer you to the headline of the thread.

And yet you - who probably hasn't stepped foot in the UK in your entire life - just couldn't wait to post a woeful link.

[laislica]

I am from Birmingham and while the Fox News guy went overboard HE IS SPOT ON ABOUT NO GO ZONES in Birmingham of course Birmingham is not 100% Muslims but certain areas ARE 100% MUSLIM and I challenge any lefty liberal to walk down those areas drinking beer or dressed wrong and I guarantee you will be accosted.

its not PC to say it but NO GO AREAS are in the UK and there have been multiple attacks there is even a sharia Patrol 3 muslims got jailed another Patrol beat up SEVERLY an American tourist who dared walk into the no go area

Here is an American guy interviewing in Burnley and this is EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS you can see how scared the white women are teh one was off as soon as she seen the mob gathering

Sharia Patrol in London

American Tourist beaten severly by Muslim Sharia patrol

I could post more and more

Anyone that says there is not a issue and its growin has their head up their ass and dont want to see it

Spot on, I used to live in the London Borough of Hackney but left 10 years ago because of the Muslim influx.

It was not safe then and it is worse now.

The no-go zones shown in these videos are part of the establishment of Islam and Shaira Law and it is a world wide event.

But we have seen this before, but with an important difference!

I well remember that in the 50's the British Government needed workers and paid £50 to each Jamaican who would emigrate and settle in the UK.

In my town, Derby, the first several families clubbed together and bought a terraced house in a run down area.

They did shift work and the joke was that their beds were never cold.

They likes Reggae music and spicy food. The house prices went down.

Their near neighbours sold quickly and moved out, More Jamaicans moved in and a Ghetto formed.

The area around the original football ground was sure a no-go area, whites would be intimidated in exactly similar ways as shown on the videos but without the reference to Sharia Law.

The Jamaicans however, did eventually integrate because they had no agenda other than having a better life.

As they got better skills, got better jobs and earned more money, they dispersed to the wider community.

The current problem is that the Muslims do not want the same things.

They only want to introduce Sharia Law full stop.

But the Muslims are only doing what they are commanded to by their Koran.

Striving to institute worldwide Sharia law is a religious duty.

Many people don't realise how politically oriented Islam is at its core.

In fact Islam is less of a religion than it is a “religious ideology”.

It includes a mandatory and highly specific legal and political plan for the whole society: Sharia.

There is no separation between the religious and political in Islam, rather Islam and Sharia constitute a totalitarian means of ordering society at every level, including ritual worship, transactions and contract rules and manners, beliefs and punishments.

In the Koran Allah makes it clear that man-made governments (such as a democracy) and free speech (such as criticising the Koran) are abominations and must eliminated.

The modern expression “creeping Sharia” is used to describe the slow, deliberate and methodical advance of Islamic law in non-Muslim countries.

Official Sharia courts already operate in the UK, handling cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to domestic violence.

Attempts to introduce Sharia legal system in Germany,Sweden and other European countries are ongoing.

While Sharia already has a foot in the UK's door in the matter of minor disputes like inheritance and domestic violence.

It should be of concern that Sharia commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.

Allows husbands to hit their wives.

Allows the injured plaintiff to exercise legal revenge literally an eye for an eye.

Commands that a thief must have a hand cut off.

Commands that homosexuals must be executed.

Orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.

Orders death for both Muslim and non-Muslim critics of Muhammad, the Koran and even Sharia itself.

Orders apostates (the conscious abandonment of Islam by a Muslim) to be killed.

Commands offensive, aggressive and unjust Jihad.

As written in the Koran, Sharia is the law of Allah.

Any other form of government is a sin.

It is the duty of every Muslim to keep striving until all governments have been converted to Sharia law.

[chuckd]

Garbage? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw ...

People that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't spread lies on the Internet -

I refer you to the headline of the thread.

And yet you - who probably hasn't stepped foot in the UK in your entire life - just couldn't wait to post a woeful link.

Please provide us with your first hand experiences in Muslim No-Go zones.

Do you have any opinions based on personal observations you can provide us as a contribution to the thread?

How about providing us a little personal knowledge from somebody that has actually been there and done that?

I, personally, haven't been in the UK since 1988 so my voice must remain silent. We welcome your input.

Edited January 22, 2015 by chuckd

[Alwyn]

The reason the claims of no-go Muslim areas continue is because there are no-go areas - in the UK anyway. In fact only recently one of these Muslim nutrocks was imprisoned in London, most English are familiar with him as he has bright ginger hair which makes him quite distinguishable! Him and his cronies have notices around in certain parts of the east end telling people they are entering a Sharia area, short skirts are not allowed, drinking is not allowed etc. Theses bozos would patrol the streets as a gang and harass and assault non-Muslims. Last week they had marches down Brick Lane - a famous east end area that used to be predominantly a Jewish area - telling shops and pubs they could not sell alcohol or cigarettes as it's a Sharia run area. I heard at the end of last year the iconic Beigel Bake was forced to close (not confirmed). Then there's other equally bad area, Luton, Bedford, Bradford and so on. In fact I noticed somebody has posted a link to the girl who went back to Luton and got verbally and physically bullied by these animals, it's all on youtube. 5% of the population and 95% of the news....

[SoiBiker]

I can't imagine what it must be like to live with such fear and paranoia as some of you guys clearly do.

[laolover88]

Try reading this:

http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/foreigners

No-go areas everywhere; some serious, some not so.

Endless no-go areas for both rich and poor all over the place.In Europe used to be that you came from the 'other' village. In the US people were 'run out of town' There are places in BKK my wife won't go.

Any places you can document that are 'no-go' in LOS?

[SoiBiker]

Any places you can document that are 'no-go' in LOS?

I guess there are some places down in the far south it's probably not advisable to visit.

[dragonfly94]

They are more like Muslim intimidation areas than 'no go' and this is NOT a myth. I used to live in one in the UK, over a couple of decades most of the white people, Hindus and Sikhs moved elsewhere. Of course there were ones who stayed like my liberal 'multicultural lover' labour supporting neighbour. However, even she fled in the end tired of being harassed in the street by Muslim males calling her a prostitute for the way she dressed and afraid for the safety of her 14 year old daughter who was constantly targeted by Muslims with sexual overtures. The koran instructs Muslims not to befriend non believers, therefore the true Muslim can not live and integrate with non believers.

[bendejo]

Anacostia?

Betcha Bobby Jindal no go there

He's probably afraid of certain areas in his own state, and I'm not talking about Islamis.

I think those Black Panther guys who beat people up if they didn't vote for Obama live in those places too.

[phrodan]

Garbage? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw ...

People that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't spread lies on the Internet -

I refer you to the headline of the thread.

And yet you - who probably hasn't stepped foot in the UK in your entire life - just couldn't wait to post a woeful link.

Please provide us with your first hand experiences in Muslim No-Go zones.

Do you have any opinions based on personal observations you can provide us as a contribution to the thread?

How about providing us a little personal knowledge from somebody that has actually been there and done that?

I, personally, haven't been in the UK since 1988 so my voice must remain silent. We welcome your input.

Guys like you head to wikipedia and make up arguments as you go along. That's how shallow your lives are.

My personal experience? I have never been prevented by anyone from entering any area of the UK for any reason - that includes all of these so-called no-go areas mentioned here. They don't exist - they are a figment of fevered imaginations. There are parts of the country populated by white people that are far closer to no-go areas than any Muslim district.

[phrodan]

They are more like Muslim intimidation areas than 'no go' and this is NOT a myth. I used to live in one in the UK, over a couple of decades most of the white people, Hindus and Sikhs moved elsewhere. Of course there were ones who stayed like my liberal 'multicultural lover' labour supporting neighbour. However, even she fled in the end tired of being harassed in the street by Muslim males calling her a prostitute for the way she dressed and afraid for the safety of her 14 year old daughter who was constantly targeted by Muslims with sexual overtures. The koran instructs Muslims not to befriend non believers, therefore the true Muslim can not live and integrate with non believers.

I accept that there are Muslim's of that ilk. The intimidation is comparable to places such as Brixton that guy was talking about earlier where the Afro-Caribbeans held sway. I ha a problem in St Pauli in Bristol due to being a white face in a "black," bar. I had the same thing in the US, I even had the same thing on a USAF base. Same in Germany in a Turkish bar, and I wasn't exactly welcome in a certain bar in Beijing. So what - there's idiots everywhere of every creed.

[chuckd]

Garbage? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw ...

People that don't know what they are talking about shouldn't spread lies on the Internet -

I refer you to the headline of the thread.

And yet you - who probably hasn't stepped foot in the UK in your entire life - just couldn't wait to post a woeful link.

Please provide us with your first hand experiences in Muslim No-Go zones.

Do you have any opinions based on personal observations you can provide us as a contribution to the thread?

How about providing us a little personal knowledge from somebody that has actually been there and done that?

I, personally, haven't been in the UK since 1988 so my voice must remain silent. We welcome your input.

Guys like you head to wikipedia and make up arguments as you go along. That's how shallow your lives are.

My personal experience? I have never been prevented by anyone from entering any area of the UK for any reason - that includes all of these so-called no-go areas mentioned here. They don't exist - they are a figment of fevered imaginations. There are parts of the country populated by white people that are far closer to no-go areas than any Muslim district.

Cutting through your personal insults, how do we know you have actually been in the UK at all?

You so kindly point out Wikipedia to me, yet who is to say you aren't also using the same source to get your information?

In short, are you there now? If not, when were you there last and for roughly how long?

I am not trying to get you to out yourself. It is you that started giving visitation or residential requirements for others to post on a given subject.

I'm simply asking what experience you have that should make us believe you actually know what you are talking about.

Cheers.

Edit in: No response is necessary from you. I now believe you are a former RAF member based on your many posts about Vietnam and the your comments about some USAF base causing you problems.

You are, quite obviously, a Brit.

Who else uses the word..."ilk"?

Edited January 22, 2015 by chuckd