Overview of Yingluck impeachment case in NLA

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FEATURE: Overview of Yingluck impeachment case in NLA

BANGKOK: -- On January 23, 2015, the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) voted to impeach former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatr a for her failure to halt or rectify the costly and corrupt rice-pledging scheme, effectively banning her from political activity for 5 years. She now faces a criminal charge in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders.

NLA President Pornpetch Wichitcholchai affirmed that the motion to impeach the former Prime Minister had been conducted based on impartiality, justice and the rule of law. However, graft-related cases against the former Prime Minister, currently undergoing the judicial process, are beyond the jurisdiction of the government.

The case of her dereliction of duty in the rice pledging scheme was presented to the NLA by the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC). The NLA resolved to deliberate the case in order to hear from both sides before proceeding with the motion to impeach.

According to NACC commissioner Vicha Mahakun, the Yingluck’s rice-pledging scheme promised rice growers a premium per ton that was much higher than the ongoing global market price, but the rice in the stockpiles were sold to associate buyers at very low prices. Furthermore, he said the administration had proceeded with the costly and damaging program despite constant pleas by the NACC and the Office of the Auditor General to have the program halted. The project not only resulted in tremendous losses of government funds and fostered corrupt practices, but participating farmers were also plunged into financial crisis because they had to wait too long for the pledged money. Based on these findings, the NACC, therefore, concluded that Ms. Yingluck should be impeached for allowing the damaging program to continue.

The former Prime Minister questioned the legality and impartiality of the impeachment trial, arguing that the NLA had no power to consider impeachment, that the NLA was not a legitimate legislative body and that the entire trial was politically motivated. She made her case that the figures presented by the NACC regarding the project’s estimated loss were inaccurate and that the rice pledging scheme indeed contributed to increasing income for participating farmers. Furthermore, she argued that her administration undertook all possible steps to ensure the project’s transparency and was not oblivious of the criticisms.

Members of the NLA were given the chance to submit questions pertaining to the case and were able to hear from the NACC chairman regarding questions directed towards the NACC’s investigation. However, they were unable to have their questions answered by the defendant as the former Prime Minister was not present at the hearings session.

Presenting the NACC's closing statement, Commissioner Vicha Mahakun affirmed the committee’s thorough and impartial investigation into the rice-pledging scheme as well as its resolving that the rice pledging scheme was indeed a corrupt and costly project, and that Ms. Yingluck was indeed guilty of her dereliction of duty.

The former Prime Minister closed her defense by saying the 5-year ban would unfairly limit her political rights; she also affirmed that the rice-pledging scheme was a crucial program that succeeded in raising the farmers' living standards. The NLA heard the closing statements from both sides and proceeded to vote in camera based on their own conclusions of the case.

Regardless of the rebukes by the former Prime Minister, most of the NLA were not convinced of Ms. Yingluck’s innocence, given 190 out of the 219 present on the day voted to impeach the former Prime Minister.

NLA first vice president Surachai Liengbunlerdchai gave strong assurance that the decision by the NLA was not lobbied or manipulated by third parties. He was also confident that the decision would not affect the country's ongoing reconciliation process.

-- NNT 2015-01-26

[Costas2008]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

[Old Man River]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

I would have preferred the impeachment not taken place and rather the case go through the judicial system as it is now. This is the normal process for alleged crimes of this nature.

[talktomarty]

I suppose it's one way of getting rid of your political enemies, just stack the NLA with junta friendly mates, make up charges against them and then vote overwhelmingly to convict them! They know all to well that in a free and democratic election they would lose and lose badly.

[Centrum]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

How long will it take to cure the wounds the present politicians are inflicting on the Thai people?

[halloween]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

How long will it take to cure the wounds the present politicians are inflicting on the Thai people?

They'll get to them when they finish paying of the debts of their predecessors - might take a while.

[Stradavarius37]

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In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

How long will it take to cure the wounds the present politicians are inflicting on the Thai people?

Stop being so melodramatic - go have a beer and relax Nancy.

[chotthee]

It is only fair that Yingluck pay back 500 Billion or so that she mess up by her own private money.

Just like Thaksin paid 7.2 Billion a few years back.

[scorecard]

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I suppose it's one way of getting rid of your political enemies, just stack the NLA with junta friendly mates, make up charges against them and then vote overwhelmingly to convict them! They know all to well that in a free and democratic election they would lose and lose badly.

'Make up charges'....

You must be kidding, or perhaps the robert playbook has a new page with even more blatant untruths

[oneday]

"...The former Prime Minister questioned the legality and impartiality of the impeachment trial, arguing that the NLA had no power to consider impeachment, that the NLA was not a legitimate legislative body and that the entire trial was politically motivated..." This is irrelevant as to guilt or innocence.

"...She made her case that the figures presented by the NACC regarding the project’s estimated loss were inaccurate...". If there was a loss then why quibble over the size. I think very few people would argue there was no loss or only a small loss. Again irrelevant.

"...and that the rice pledging scheme indeed contributed to increasing income for participating farmers..." Where is the proof of this? I think the farmers that committed suicide would disagree.

"...Furthermore, she argued that her administration undertook all possible steps to ensure the project’s transparency...". Really? This is just not plausible. However, I'm sure everyone will be happy to look at the evidence as to the truth of this statement? Where is it?

"...and was not oblivious of the criticisms..." Irrelevant.

As much as I don't like the NACC and their rabid, irrational pursuit of Yingluck, I think she is guilty of dereliction and who really cares if she can't go into politics for 5 years...boo hoo. However, I think trying to put her in jail for doing a bad job or ignoring warning signs is way over-the-top and will deeply wound this country if they succeed.

[chainarong]

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In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

How long will it take to cure the wounds the present politicians are inflicting on the Thai people?

Good Point and my argument all along, they haven't cured anything, just put some issues on the back burner, besides trying to make the system in their favour.

Edited January 26, 2015 by chainarong

[waitforusalso]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

[rubl]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

Thai love to make pictures, at times even of historical moments. As Ms. Yingluck knows stating for the record or making a picture of the situation can be important.

[firestar]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

Circus

[firestar]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Of course it wasn't....

The Nation:

"Those hoping that the junta would act impartially to lead the country through major reforms and reconciliation would be disappointed if the stage has already been set already for Yingluck to be impeached. The connection and influence of the junta and NLA is undeniable. General Somchet Boonthanom was quoted as describing both as "like father, like son."

[waitforusalso]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

Thai love to make pictures, at times even of historical moments. As Ms. Yingluck knows stating for the record or making a picture of the situation can be important.

& love to do the throat cutting motion too I suppose? Your deflection & belittling of what is blatantly inappropriate behaviour shows your extreme obstinance.

Edited January 26, 2015 by waitforusalso

[firestar]

So Costas no reply to the video of your fair and "based on facts" assembly members making throat cutting motions, and taking selfies?

Why am I not surprised...

[phoenixdoglover]

Would someone care to post a clear description of the "corruption" that supposedly took place, and for which the former PM is being held responsible? In every article I have read, the charge is made without substantiation or detail.

As for buying rice at prices above the market, and selling it at a loss, this could be construed as really bad policy; but many governments subsidize farmers in direct and indirect ways, such that the government experiences a "loss" (i.e., the payments exceed the revenue). Was this policy approved by the parliament? If so, how is the former PM responsible?

So how about that "corruption" thing? Any takers?

[gamini]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Of course it wasn't....

The Nation:

"Those hoping that the junta would act impartially to lead the country through major reforms and reconciliation would be disappointed if the stage has already been set already for Yingluck to be impeached. The connection and influence of the junta and NLA is undeniable. General Somchet Boonthanom was quoted as describing both as "like father, like son."

what does it matter that the Junta impeached her, Any other assembly in any country would have done so. She was guilty without doubt and deserved impeachment. Whats the point of criticizing the result?

[firestar]

In my opinion it was a good and fair decision, based on facts and not political sentiments.

As about the ongoing reconciliation process, I believe it will take many years to cure the wounds the previous politicians have inflicted to the Thai people.

But I'm confident, with the good strategy and intention of this Government, that this can be achieved.

Of course it wasn't....

The Nation:

"Those hoping that the junta would act impartially to lead the country through major reforms and reconciliation would be disappointed if the stage has already been set already for Yingluck to be impeached. The connection and influence of the junta and NLA is undeniable. General Somchet Boonthanom was quoted as describing both as "like father, like son."

what does it matter that the Junta impeached her, Any other assembly in any country would have done so. She was guilty without doubt and deserved impeachment. Whats the point of criticizing the result?

Nope. She wouldn't have been in front of an assembly in the first place. Impeachment is the process of removing (or not) an active official from office. How can she be impeached when she isn't an active official and nobody has been tried never mind convicted, but it doesn't matter right? As long as you Gamini and the Junta find her guilty.

[firestar]

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

Wow, views are climbing fast, I wonder how long before it is blocked in Thailand?

[rubl]

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

Wow, views are climbing fast, I wonder how long before it is blocked in Thailand?

Wasn't it broadcasted live ?

[firestar]

Actions of 'good and fair' administrators with good intention?

Wow, views are climbing fast, I wonder how long before it is blocked in Thailand?

Wasn't it broadcasted live ?

I don't think they were expecting to still be filmed.

There is no TV channel logo on the footage not sure if the laughter and cut throat motions went out live or if a camera was still rolling and whoever was shooting thought what he was seeing was of interest to the general public.

Edited January 26, 2015 by firestar

[rubl]

Wow, views are climbing fast, I wonder how long before it is blocked in Thailand?

Wasn't it broadcasted live ?

I don't think they were expecting to still be filmed.

There is no TV channel logo on the footage not sure if the laughter and cut throat motions went out live or if a camera was still rolling and whoever was shooting thought what he was seeing was of interest to the general public.

The 'throat cutting' motion I've seen before in situations signifying "it's done', but also "stop the camera", "it's finished, time to go". With 123 votes required, but actually 190 voting for impeachment, all of the four could apply.

Now if only we could add a soundtrack with some damning words or sentences

[firestar]

Wow, views are climbing fast, I wonder how long before it is blocked in Thailand?

Wasn't it broadcasted live ?

I don't think they were expecting to still be filmed.

There is no TV channel logo on the footage not sure if the laughter and cut throat motions went out live or if a camera was still rolling and whoever was shooting thought what he was seeing was of interest to the general public.

The 'throat cutting' motion I've seen before in situations signifying "it's done', but also "stop the camera", "it's finished, time to go". With 123 votes required, but actually 190 voting for impeachment, all of the four could apply.

Now if only we could add a soundtrack with some damning words or sentences

He's doing cut throat motions and pointing at the board, while laughing and telling his buddy to take more pictures.

You think it could mean "stop the camera"?!?

Clearly you must be trolling?

Edited January 26, 2015 by firestar

[rubl]

Wasn't it broadcasted live ?

I don't think they were expecting to still be filmed.

There is no TV channel logo on the footage not sure if the laughter and cut throat motions went out live or if a camera was still rolling and whoever was shooting thought what he was seeing was of interest to the general public.

The 'throat cutting' motion I've seen before in situations signifying "it's done', but also "stop the camera", "it's finished, time to go". With 123 votes required, but actually 190 voting for impeachment, all of the four could apply.

Now if only we could add a soundtrack with some damning words or sentences

He's doing cut throat motions and pointing at the board, while laughing and telling his buddy to take more pictures.

You think it could mean "stop the camera"?!?

Clearly you must be trolling?

Well other possibilities more like some here prefer might be "we cut her throat for sure", "one down, a few more to go", "done, look what a nice result", "cut a Shinawatra, make a picture (and sell to the newspapers)".

Oh, and relief that it was done and the NLA can go on with its normal work.

[firestar]

Well other possibilities more like some here prefer might be "we cut her throat for sure", "one down, a few more to go", "done, look what a nice result", "cut a Shinawatra, make a picture (and sell to the newspapers)".

Oh, and relief that it was done and the NLA can go on with its normal work.

Much more likely ::2cents::