so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Read again, the sharing was of the document. At least that's what Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD seems to have said.

Now a document with LM contents will get anyone sharing it picked up for LM, even if they wear a red shirt and are said to be a bit radical when it comes to politics.

so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Strangely enough PTP and their RTP Cyber crime stooges warned they'd be arresting people if they even dared to click on "like" on a social media post.

Only then it wasn't about LM - it was about any post that dared criticize the Shin regime.

In the BKK Post Jatuporn was reported as saying the did not know Kris(t) personally but recognized him as they had met at Apiwan's funeral.

Yet only yesterday there were photos in the same paper of Kris(t) frequently being on the same red stages as Jatuporn playing his guitar and singing.

Jatuporn lies again.

Thaksin must be highly peed off by the ineptitude of his hired goons.

All Thaksin's minions just can't seem to get it. They still think they can say anything, true or false, and that everyone will believe them. They've told so many lies that now it must be hard to tell reality.

He wouldn't know the truth if it bit him.

I happen to like the present PM Mr. Prayut Chan-O-Cha, no matter how he came to power.

I keep wondering why every one refers the Thailand Military as the Junta? I have heard of that

reference in Burma, but then look at Burma, and see the difference!

I have travelled to Thailand when both, Thaksin Shinawatra, and his sister

Yingluck Shinawatra have been in power, and I did not see the glory of their power days, of

helping Thailand and the Thai people either. I was there during the big flood, and I heard

from my Thai relatives about why it was so bad. I have heard of the things that Thaksin did

while he was the PM and I have to say that he is not my hero.

While I visit Thailand I wear a shirt for the color of the King, and another color on the day of the Queen,

but as for the Red shirts, or Yellow shirts, I just hope that the present PM will help Thailand

a lot better than the last two people did.

Of course this is only my Farang Tourist opinion.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

Oh a farang can have any number of Thai relatives. The limiting number is set by the size of your bank balance and your willingness to part with it without due regard to value for money and the odds against family "loans" being repaid.

A fight is certainly on the way and it's not only Jatuporn. The rubber farmers, taxi drivers, truckers, energy activists are waiting in line for a showdown with the government. Just when you thought peace have been restored and reconciliation on the way, we are all back in square one. It seem a repeat of the '06 coup and wasted years before democracy is restored.

You wish!

................................."The rubber farmers, taxi drivers, truckers, energy activists"........................................

What a joke ! I bet the Army boys are shaking in their boots, especially at the thought of doing battle with Thaksin's army of taxi drivers !

And I love the way they keep coming up with the "reconciliation" bullet when they have nothing else to fire. As far as the Shins are concerned reconciliation is a nice way of saying "wipe the slate clean and forgive us for all our past sins, and everything will be all better".

What a joke these people are.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

Erm, well I have about 80 Thai relatives by-marriage to my wife, then there's her herself, and our leuk-krung kids. They all add up, you know !

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"Thailand has been riven by bitter political divisions since 2006, when Thaksin Shinawatra's government was ousted in another coup"

No it wasn't.

Tell us more

Nope.

You post something and then when asked for more information you said know. Makes you look like the sort of person who posts s*** and has no idea what they are talking about. This to me makes your posts pointless, In fact I bet you don't have any real idea what you are talking about and have just used google yourself now.

Clear enough for you?

I happen to like the present PM Mr. Prayut Chan-O-Cha, no matter how he came to power.

I keep wondering why every one refers the Thailand Military as the Junta? I have heard of that

reference in Burma, but then look at Burma, and see the difference!

I have travelled to Thailand when both, Thaksin Shinawatra, and his sister

Yingluck Shinawatra have been in power, and I did not see the glory of their power days, of

helping Thailand and the Thai people either. I was there during the big flood, and I heard

from my Thai relatives about why it was so bad. I have heard of the things that Thaksin did

while he was the PM and I have to say that he is not my hero.

While I visit Thailand I wear a shirt for the color of the King, and another color on the day of the Queen,

but as for the Red shirts, or Yellow shirts, I just hope that the present PM will help Thailand

a lot better than the last two people did.

Of course this is only my Farang Tourist opinion.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

My wife is a relative by marriage and our son is a relative by blood so there are 2 examples.

To follow on my wife's Mum and Dad are also relatives by marriage as are my wife's 3 brothers and their families also. All of them are called "in laws".

Therefore stargrazer 9889 actually DOES have Thai relatives.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

Erm, well I have about 80 Thai relatives by-marriage to my wife, then there's her herself, and our leuk-krung kids. They all add up, you know !

That's right, when you marry a Thai lady you "inherit" a whole heap of family. I have been with my wife for five years now and I am still discovering relatives I did not know I even had !

And I class myself lucky, after reading some of the horror stories (fact and fiction) posted on TVF over the years. My adopted family, although most of them are poor Surin rice farmers (why did they not get filthy rich while Thaksin ruled all those years ?) have never asked for handouts, which is why we look after them financially when they need help (again, after all those years under Thaksin why are they not helping me out ?)

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"Thailand has been riven by bitter political divisions since 2006, when Thaksin Shinawatra's government was ousted in another coup"

No it wasn't.

Tell us more

Nope.

You post something and then when asked for more information you said know. Makes you look like the sort of person who posts s*** and has no idea what they are talking about. This to me makes your posts pointless, In fact I bet you don't have any real idea what you are talking about and have just used google yourself now.

Clear enough for you?

You could also have done a little research for yourself as well.

Bluepunk does have a really good idea of what he is talking about and like me and many others hi is probably tired with repeating the same thing ad nauseum for people who can't be bothered to look for themselves and want everything given to them on a plate. Then posters tell him he doesn't have any idea because it doesn't fit the answer they want.

Is that clear enough for you?

I happen to like the present PM Mr. Prayut Chan-O-Cha, no matter how he came to power.

I keep wondering why every one refers the Thailand Military as the Junta? I have heard of that

reference in Burma, but then look at Burma, and see the difference!

I have travelled to Thailand when both, Thaksin Shinawatra, and his sister

Yingluck Shinawatra have been in power, and I did not see the glory of their power days, of

helping Thailand and the Thai people either. I was there during the big flood, and I heard

from my Thai relatives about why it was so bad. I have heard of the things that Thaksin did

while he was the PM and I have to say that he is not my hero.

While I visit Thailand I wear a shirt for the color of the King, and another color on the day of the Queen,

but as for the Red shirts, or Yellow shirts, I just hope that the present PM will help Thailand

a lot better than the last two people did.

Of course this is only my Farang Tourist opinion.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

My wife is a relative by marriage and our son is a relative by blood so there are 2 examples.

To follow on my wife's Mum and Dad are also relatives by marriage as are my wife's 3 brothers and their families also. All of them are called "in laws".

Therefore stargrazer 9889 actually DOES have Thai relatives.

Some "Falangs" will only ever have one Thai relative, and that is their Mamasan...............................

The fat boy thinks that the RTA is looking for a fight. So what's he going to do about it? The mercenary agitator talks a good fight, to the death id necessary, as long as it isn't his. While others are bleeding and dying, he's busy counting his wealth accumulated as a 'political activist'. Guess where that came from.

The man should wear a red shirt with a big white bulls-eye on it.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

Erm, well I have about 80 Thai relatives by-marriage to my wife, then there's her herself, and our leuk-krung kids. They all add up, you know !

That's right, when you marry a Thai lady you "inherit" a whole heap of family. I have been with my wife for five years now and I am still discovering relatives I did not know I even had !

And I class myself lucky, after reading some of the horror stories (fact and fiction) posted on TVF over the years. My adopted family, although most of them are poor Surin rice farmers (why did they not get filthy rich while Thaksin ruled all those years ?) have never asked for handouts, which is why we look after them financially when they need help (again, after all those years under Thaksin why are they not helping me out ?)

Yep, that all sounds very familar to me too !

It's more like a corporate-merger, than a simple one-on-one relationship, when you marry here, not that I'm complaining about that.

And 'family helps family', because you can't rely on the government to do so, that fits right in with my South London roots, too !

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

Erm, well I have about 80 Thai relatives by-marriage to my wife, then there's her herself, and our leuk-krung kids. They all add up, you know !

That's right, when you marry a Thai lady you "inherit" a whole heap of family. I have been with my wife for five years now and I am still discovering relatives I did not know I even had !

And I class myself lucky, after reading some of the horror stories (fact and fiction) posted on TVF over the years. My adopted family, although most of them are poor Surin rice farmers (why did they not get filthy rich while Thaksin ruled all those years ?) have never asked for handouts, which is why we look after them financially when they need help (again, after all those years under Thaksin why are they not helping me out ?)

You have to understand Mike that the promise to make everyone rich in 6 months was only after he has arrived back in Thailand and is in charge again.

So it is conditional in everyone, who wants to be rich, supporting efforts to get him back free of all impediments, IE the amnesty bill.

Unfortunately there are those who do not want to get rich, or were rich already, or possibly just didn't believe him, who scuppered the aspirations of the faithful and the corrupt who would have been forgive their corruption and allowed to keep their corruption money thereby getting rich for sure.

If your a "Falang" how can you have Thai relatives??

Erm, well I have about 80 Thai relatives by-marriage to my wife, then there's her herself, and our leuk-krung kids. They all add up, you know !

That's right, when you marry a Thai lady you "inherit" a whole heap of family. I have been with my wife for five years now and I am still discovering relatives I did not know I even had !

And I class myself lucky, after reading some of the horror stories (fact and fiction) posted on TVF over the years. My adopted family, although most of them are poor Surin rice farmers (why did they not get filthy rich while Thaksin ruled all those years ?) have never asked for handouts, which is why we look after them financially when they need help (again, after all those years under Thaksin why are they not helping me out ?)

You have to understand Mike that the promise to make everyone rich in 6 months was only after he has arrived back in Thailand and is in charge again.

So it is conditional in everyone, who wants to be rich, supporting efforts to get him back free of all impediments, IE the amnesty bill.

Unfortunately there are those who do not want to get rich, or were rich already, or possibly just didn't believe him, who scuppered the aspirations of the faithful and the corrupt who would have been forgive their corruption and allowed to keep their corruption money thereby getting rich for sure.

Well, I must say I am disappointed.

My plan was once the family were rolling in it I could sit back with a pina colada and milk them for all their riches, much like the previous government did to the people of Thailand.

so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Read again, the sharing was of the document. At least that's what Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD seems to have said.

Now a document with LM contents will get anyone sharing it picked up for LM, even if they wear a red shirt and are said to be a bit radical when it comes to politics.

read again...

Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD, said yesterday that Kris, 26, who used to work with him, was not the mastermind behind the document, but had merely clicked "Like" on Facebook and shared it with his Facebook "friends".

now, what I said....

clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends

clearly not the same thing, eh?

btw, as far as I understand, the ASTV manager posted the document on their website. A bit more than a "like" and a "share", don't you think? well, of course you don't...

so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Strangely enough PTP and their RTP Cyber crime stooges warned they'd be arresting people if they even dared to click on "like" on a social media post.

Only then it wasn't about LM - it was about any post that dared criticize the Shin regime.

I'm sure that you have a link or two for such claims? I've never heard about this go-straight-to-prison-card before the current 'NCPO' came along.

Oh, by the way, please do come up with a link that shows someone being held in isolation without access to council... That would be just dandy.

so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Read again, the sharing was of the document. At least that's what Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD seems to have said.

Now a document with LM contents will get anyone sharing it picked up for LM, even if they wear a red shirt and are said to be a bit radical when it comes to politics.

read again...

Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD, said yesterday that Kris, 26, who used to work with him, was not the mastermind behind the document, but had merely clicked "Like" on Facebook and shared it with his Facebook "friends".

now, what I said....

clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends

clearly not the same thing, eh?

btw, as far as I understand, the ASTV manager posted the document on their website. A bit more than a "like" and a "share", don't you think? well, of course you don't...

Although I'm willing to believe a lot, some websites (including the BPhave this Kris being 'amongst the first' (if not the first) to share a document which concerned the health of H.M. the King and was suggested as coming from the Royal Household Bureau. He also did so 'widely', allegedly of course.

Clearly not the same.

As for the ASTV manager posting the document, since Jatuporn said so on 'Peace TV' it must be true you mean?

"Jatuporn, meanwhile, lambasted the authorities on Peace TV yesterday morning, claiming that nobody from the yellow-shirt ASTV Manager website - which allegedly reproduced the fake document and reported it as news - was arrested."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Fake-palace-statement-fabricated-here-police-30253509.html

so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Strangely enough PTP and their RTP Cyber crime stooges warned they'd be arresting people if they even dared to click on "like" on a social media post.

Only then it wasn't about LM - it was about any post that dared criticize the Shin regime.

I'm sure that you have a link or two for such claims? I've never heard about this go-straight-to-prison-card before the current 'NCPO' came along.

Oh, by the way, please do come up with a link that shows someone being held in isolation without access to council... That would be just dandy.

November 2011 The Thai government asked facebook to remove 10,000 offending pages and reminded everyone they would risk prosecution under the Computer Crime Act if sharing, commenting or just 'liking' messages deemed LM offences.

so clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends gets you arrested and detained without council if you are a red shirt, but posting the same thing on your website doesn't... If you are ASTV...

Sure, that makes sense.

Read again, the sharing was of the document. At least that's what Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD seems to have said.

Now a document with LM contents will get anyone sharing it picked up for LM, even if they wear a red shirt and are said to be a bit radical when it comes to politics.

read again...

Sitthichai Tah-aj, former chairman of the Phetchabun chapter of the UDD, said yesterday that Kris, 26, who used to work with him, was not the mastermind behind the document, but had merely clicked "Like" on Facebook and shared it with his Facebook "friends".

now, what I said....

clicking "like" on facebook and sharing with yoru friends

clearly not the same thing, eh?

btw, as far as I understand, the ASTV manager posted the document on their website. A bit more than a "like" and a "share", don't you think? well, of course you don't...

Although I'm willing to believe a lot, some websites (including the BPhave this Kris being 'amongst the first' (if not the first) to share a document which concerned the health of H.M. the King and was suggested as coming from the Royal Household Bureau. He also did so 'widely', allegedly of course.

Clearly not the same.

As for the ASTV manager posting the document, since Jatuporn said so on 'Peace TV' it must be true you mean?

"Jatuporn, meanwhile, lambasted the authorities on Peace TV yesterday morning, claiming that nobody from the yellow-shirt ASTV Manager website - which allegedly reproduced the fake document and reported it as news - was arrested."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Fake-palace-statement-fabricated-here-police-30253509.html

In a new development the Military Court approved the issue of a arrest warrant for ASTV webmaster k. Niran. The Technology Crime Suppression Division charged Niran with LM under section 112.

Already last Tuesday reporting to the police Niran had said the document was posted on Feb 2nd and he had removed it as soon as he was informed it was a fake. ASTV had removed him from his job and put on half-pay since.

I have been thinking how quiet the UDD has been lately, mostly since Thida passed the leadership baton over to Jatuporn.

In fact since that time the only loud voice has been his.

Perhaps he has been selected as the sacrificial lamb.

No links or posts to this as it is only my thoughts and opinion which of course are just as valid as anybody elses on the forum.

A fight is certainly on the way and it's not only Jatuporn. The rubber farmers, taxi drivers, truckers, energy activists are waiting in line for a showdown with the government. Just when you thought peace have been restored and reconcilation on the way, we are all back in square one. It seem a repeat of the '06 coup and wasted years before democracy is restored.

As I have oft asked Eric: How can you 'restore democracy' when there was none here in the first place? If you are one of those who believe that democracy starts and finishes at the ballot box, then I am afraid you need to learn about the world and it's puppet masters.

It's weird when you try to teach me about democracy when you one of those who believe in coup will help restore democracy. You really have to learn from the world that military takeover of a civilian government is unconstitutional and democracy denied. And here is a little something about all political parties; all have puppet masters.

I am not trying "to teach you" about anything. You cannot overcome blind prejudice with simple teaching.