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There are no similarities between Australia and this brutal Yellow scourge, that is why the Australian government has banned the Junta from ever visiting its shores. Australia knows a massacre of innocents by a war machine when it sees one.

Brutal yellow scourge? Massacre of innocents by a war machine? Are you serious?

Obviously someone who views the world through red sunglasses. You, like your fellow reds, are just trying to rewrite history by continually repeating the red doctrine that blames everyone except the reds. You keep hoping that if you repeat the lies often enough, those of us capable of independant thought will buy into it and eventually believe it.

Sorry, ain't going to work. Go back to your paymaster and tell him you failed.

If the army fired over 100,000 rounds, and 2500+ sniper rounds, they must be THE worst shots in the world with only 90 or so people in total actually killed. Had the military actually been out to 'massacre innocents by a war machine', do you not think the casualty rate would have been in the thousands, if not tens of thousands?

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There are no similarities between Australia and this brutal Yellow scourge, that is why the Australian government has banned the Junta from ever visiting its shores. Australia knows a massacre of innocents by a war machine when it sees one.

Brutal yellow scourge? Massacre of innocents by a war machine? Are you serious?

Obviously someone who views the world through red sunglasses. You, like your fellow reds, are just trying to rewrite history by continually repeating the red doctrine that blames everyone except the reds. You keep hoping that if you repeat the lies often enough, those of us capable of independant thought will buy into it and eventually believe it.

Sorry, ain't going to work. Go back to your paymaster and tell him you failed.

If the army fired over 100,000 rounds, and 2500+ sniper rounds, they must be THE worst shots in the world with only 90 or so people in total actually killed. Had the military actually been out to 'massacre innocents by a war machine', do you not think the casualty rate would have been in the thousands, if not tens of thousands?

Never underestimate the incompetence of the Thai military.

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Get real!!! Where else in the world would this have been allowed to go on. This was the complete responsibility of the reds. If these thugs would have violently taken over a downtown area in any western city the death toll would have been much higher. The Gov showed amazing restraint (too much in my opinion). Let's not forget who was armed and barricaded, let's not forget their rallying cry of "let's burn down Bkk", which they did!!

The first people killed were the people rallying against the reds, they were blown up with rpg's (the red's favorite tool). The next set to be killed was in fact the military. Still restraint was shown until finally, finally they were ordered to disperse but instead decided to stay and try and earn more from their paymaster in Dubai. They got what they deserved. I hope justice is finally done with no amnesty so hopefully this nasty piece of history can never repeat itself here.

I love your first paragraph!

Get real!!! Where else in the world would this have been allowed to go on. This was the complete responsibility of the reds. If these thugs would have violently taken over a downtown area in any western city the death toll would have been much higher. The Gov showed amazing restraint (too much in my opinion). Let's not forget who was armed and barricaded, let's not forget their rallying cry of "let's burn down Bkk", which they did!!

Bar the last 6 words, it is a perfect description of both the PDRC's crimes and Yinglucks deft and humane handling of the situation.

As far as 2010 goes though, your miles and miles off the mark.

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Live fire zones set up in the middle of the city, over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured - nothing to hide?

How is it that the Yellows (PAD, PITAK SIAM, PDRC) have spent far more time protesting in the streets (and airport) yet the military has never felt the need to go out and slaughter them?

Anarchy is not acceptable? <deleted> was it that Suthep and his merry mob of Southern thugs were doing? Your double standards defy logic.

People in the streets fighting for their freedom get massacred by their own military and you side with the killers - despicable.

Amazing number of shots fired by trained army and trained snipers, and so few people injured or killed.???

Over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured.

Dad's Army would have a better success rate than that or is a Red Shirt supporter telling porkies again

Here is a fact

On 17 May, Thai military helicopters dropped leaflets on the Red Shirt's main encampment, urging them to leave. The Red Shirts responded by firing homemade rockets at the helicopters.

As much as you guys might think you are able to, you cannot just make up facts.

Army under fire over bullets

The army has ordered all units to return unused bullets from last year's protests after it was revealed in parliament that 100,000 were fired, including about 2,500 sniper rounds.

Pol Lt Col Somchai Phetprasoet, a Puea Thai MP for Nakhon Ratchasima and chairman of the House committee on military affairs, told the House that army units withdrew about 600,000 bullets from arsenals for the crackdown, including 3,000 7.62-mm bullets for SG-3000 sniper rifles.

They used more than 100,000 of them in their operations against red-shirt protesters.

excuse me

but if your facts are correct

at the best all it proves is that 100,000 where not returned

Not how Many where used

souvenirs and sale of weapons is big business in Thailand

and they on;ly have any value if un used

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Quite correct. Prayuth and his men showed true fortitude and patience in the face of those brutal terrorists even when they were questioned as to why they were being too tolerant of them. Ahbisit was even being questioned over his control of the army as they were a force with no teeth in the outset when they used rubber bullets and water cannons against military grade weapons...

In Brisbane, Australia a man with a knife enters the Queen Street Mall while everyone is trying to go about there business and THAT IS WHEN the police come in and used live fire.

In Bangkok, Thailand brutal terrorists threaten to blow up LPG truck, perform grenade attacks at Thai banks, attacked Thai charity with grenades, stormed parliament, attacked NPP and TPI buildings with M16 and grenades, (this was around the time tear gas and rubber bullets were fired by the soldiers), stormed police hospital, stormed TV station (people started questioning Ahbisits control of the soldiers after the lack of resistance they offered the terrorists on this occasion), bomb attacks on electricity pylons, 2 police taken hostage, destroyed CCTV cameras and dumped tyres on sky train tracks and THAT IS WHEN the army came in and used live fire.

Of coarse the UDD want you to believe that people with flowers in their hair were signing kombaya around a camp fire while a guitarist wearing a peace symbol necklace with long braided hair was being slaughtered by a weapon firing 300 bullets a second in the merciless grip of a huge demonizing muscle bound soldier that has fire in his eyes and a vendetta to kill as many innocent people as he can.

Prayuth testifying will only make the brutal UDD terrorists look worse than they already look.

There are no similarities between Australia and this brutal Yellow scourge, that is why the Australian government has banned the Junta from ever visiting its shores. Australia knows a massacre of innocents by a war machine when it sees one.

Also you need to include the fact that the Australia Government has just about banned all Men for bringing Asia girlfriends back to Australia with a near 400% increase in partner Visas

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Quite correct. Prayuth and his men showed true fortitude and patience in the face of those brutal terrorists even when they were questioned as to why they were being too tolerant of them. Ahbisit was even being questioned over his control of the army as they were a force with no teeth in the outset when they used rubber bullets and water cannons against military grade weapons...

In Brisbane, Australia a man with a knife enters the Queen Street Mall while everyone is trying to go about there business and THAT IS WHEN the police come in and used live fire.

In Bangkok, Thailand brutal terrorists threaten to blow up LPG truck, perform grenade attacks at Thai banks, attacked Thai charity with grenades, stormed parliament, attacked NPP and TPI buildings with M16 and grenades, (this was around the time tear gas and rubber bullets were fired by the soldiers), stormed police hospital, stormed TV station (people started questioning Ahbisits control of the soldiers after the lack of resistance they offered the terrorists on this occasion), bomb attacks on electricity pylons, 2 police taken hostage, destroyed CCTV cameras and dumped tyres on sky train tracks and THAT IS WHEN the army came in and used live fire.

Of coarse the UDD want you to believe that people with flowers in their hair were signing kombaya around a camp fire while a guitarist wearing a peace symbol necklace with long braided hair was being slaughtered by a weapon firing 300 bullets a second in the merciless grip of a huge demonizing muscle bound soldier that has fire in his eyes and a vendetta to kill as many innocent people as he can.

Prayuth testifying will only make the brutal UDD terrorists look worse than they already look.

There are no similarities between Australia and this brutal Yellow scourge, that is why the Australian government has banned the Junta from ever visiting its shores. Australia knows a massacre of innocents by a war machine when it sees one.

Also you need to include the fact that the Australia Government has just about banned all Men for bringing Asia girlfriends back to Australia with a near 400% increase in partner Visas

Your post contradicts itself. If they have banned men bringing Asian girls back how is there a 400% increase in partner visas?

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They might as well all go and arrest themselves.

Not one of them is pure.

In what country have you ever heard of so many politicians with pending court cases.

I will see if I can list a few.

Former pm

Former education minister.

Former pm 2

Former deputy pm

Advisor to the justice minister

3 or 4 senate members.

Can anybody add to my list.

We can name it.

Politicians in the courts.

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There are no similarities between Australia and this brutal Yellow scourge, that is why the Australian government has banned the Junta from ever visiting its shores. Australia knows a massacre of innocents by a war machine when it sees one.

Brutal yellow scourge? Massacre of innocents by a war machine? Are you serious?

Obviously someone who views the world through red sunglasses. You, like your fellow reds, are just trying to rewrite history by continually repeating the red doctrine that blames everyone except the reds. You keep hoping that if you repeat the lies often enough, those of us capable of independant thought will buy into it and eventually believe it.

Sorry, ain't going to work. Go back to your paymaster and tell him you failed.

If the army fired over 100,000 rounds, and 2500+ sniper rounds, they must be THE worst shots in the world with only 90 or so people in total actually killed. Had the military actually been out to 'massacre innocents by a war machine', do you not think the casualty rate would have been in the thousands, if not tens of thousands?

Do you think that if thousands had been killed Thailand would still be able to trade with the EU, USA and Japan ?

Consider the amount of ammunition used by the troops in Afghanistan compared to the head-count of Taliban killed.

You obviously didn't see the BBC photo of a soldier on the rooftop with an assault rifle fitted with telescopic sights. Assault rifles are only accurate to 1 to 200 metres, only a Rambo wantabee fits telescopic sights to such a weapon.

90 killed, how many injured ?

Having seen the quality of ammunition issued to Thai forces I wouldn't be surprised if a significant number of rounds were dud or not fully charged and failed to reach their intended target.

There can be no excuse for the lavish use of live fire against civilian protesters, water-cannon, tear-gas and rubber bullets are an "accepted" response. If the British army had killed 90 and wounded hundreds on "bloody Sunday" do you think that it could have been brushed under the carpet ? The flak the British paras got over that incident received world-wide attention, but compared to Thailand, it was minor.

The use of live fire against civilians has happened many times in history, and is usually the start of very bloody revolutions. Is that what you really want to happen to this beautiful country ?

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

crackdowns against political opponents of any color who can not protest without being threatened will lead to anarchy in the long run, remember King John and the Magna Carta

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

I think I finally understand you now! I think you're taking the mickey with your comment, sarcasm to the highest degree! You're just saying this stuff to get a rise from people while in the real World you are appalled by the atrocities committed by Red/Yellow/Thaksin or Prayuth. Nobody could make the comments you make in seriousness could they!

Costas is absolutely correct. The reds open fired on the soldiers supported by taksins men in black. Do you expect the soldiers to do nothing?

No atrocities were carried out by yellow shirts or by Prayuth. Your reply is pathetic. And as Costas says "your excuses and crying is best ignorted"

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Live fire zones set up in the middle of the city, over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured - nothing to hide?

How is it that the Yellows (PAD, PITAK SIAM, PDRC) have spent far more time protesting in the streets (and airport) yet the military has never felt the need to go out and slaughter them?

Anarchy is not acceptable? <deleted> was it that Suthep and his merry mob of Southern thugs were doing? Your double standards defy logic.

People in the streets fighting for their freedom get massacred by their own military and you side with the killers - despicable.

Amazing number of shots fired by trained army and trained snipers, and so few people injured or killed.???

Over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured.

Dad's Army would have a better success rate than that or is a Red Shirt supporter telling porkies again

Here is a fact

On 17 May, Thai military helicopters dropped leaflets on the Red Shirt's main encampment, urging them to leave. The Red Shirts responded by firing homemade rockets at the helicopters.

Homemade rockets .... and you believe that ? ... you are having a laugh ! ... strange how you only believe the propaganda from the side you support and dismiss anything the the other side says as "porkies" ... Also Suthep's lot stormed government buildings and caused untold misery in Bangkok .... but the army didn't feel the need to take the same action. You have double standards

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

I think I finally understand you now! I think you're taking the mickey with your comment, sarcasm to the highest degree! You're just saying this stuff to get a rise from people while in the real World you are appalled by the atrocities committed by Red/Yellow/Thaksin or Prayuth. Nobody could make the comments you make in seriousness could they!

Costas is absolutely correct. The reds open fired on the soldiers supported by taksins men in black. Do you expect the soldiers to do nothing?

No atrocities were carried out by yellow shirts or by Prayuth. Your reply is pathetic. And as Costas says "your excuses and crying is best ignorted"

The Reds didn't start shooting at soldiers ..... that's absolutely ludicrous

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Get real!!! Where else in the world would this have been allowed to go on. This was the complete responsibility of the reds. If these thugs would have violently taken over a downtown area in any western city the death toll would have been much higher. The Gov showed amazing restraint (too much in my opinion). Let's not forget who was armed and barricaded, let's not forget their rallying cry of "let's burn down Bkk", which they did!!

The first people killed were the people rallying against the reds, they were blown up with rpg's (the red's favorite tool). The next set to be killed was in fact the military. Still restraint was shown until finally, finally they were ordered to disperse but instead decided to stay and try and earn more from their paymaster in Dubai. They got what they deserved. I hope justice is finally done with no amnesty so hopefully this nasty piece of history can never repeat itself here.

Don't believe what you read in the press ... it's never the truth

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Live fire zones set up in the middle of the city, over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured - nothing to hide?

How is it that the Yellows (PAD, PITAK SIAM, PDRC) have spent far more time protesting in the streets (and airport) yet the military has never felt the need to go out and slaughter them?

Anarchy is not acceptable? <deleted> was it that Suthep and his merry mob of Southern thugs were doing? Your double standards defy logic.

People in the streets fighting for their freedom get massacred by their own military and you side with the killers - despicable.

so you would rather the red terrorists just have open slather on killing, blowing up, burning down Bangkok and everyone just sit around and watch them. What sort of drop kick calls for terrorism to be allowed to flourish so one man(thaksin) can get his wa, everyone knows the reds(and black shirts) were using the same weapons, without ballistic results no one knows who killed who. Trying to put the yellows into this is pathetic too, as they werent involved plus they did not open fire on people, try to burn down the city or blow it up, it was purely the reds/ptp scum, as usual the red apologists are trying to blame those that had nothing to do with this crap. Really should try to use facts and not your red propaganda

you need to read what really happened ... and maybe use some facts yourself ... you not impartial ... "reds/ptp scum" I think this shows you have only listened to one side of an argument

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There are no similarities between Australia and this brutal Yellow scourge, that is why the Australian government has banned the Junta from ever visiting its shores. Australia knows a massacre of innocents by a war machine when it sees one.

Brutal yellow scourge? Massacre of innocents by a war machine? Are you serious?

Obviously someone who views the world through red sunglasses. You, like your fellow reds, are just trying to rewrite history by continually repeating the red doctrine that blames everyone except the reds. You keep hoping that if you repeat the lies often enough, those of us capable of independant thought will buy into it and eventually believe it.

Sorry, ain't going to work. Go back to your paymaster and tell him you failed.

If the army fired over 100,000 rounds, and 2500+ sniper rounds, they must be THE worst shots in the world with only 90 or so people in total actually killed. Had the military actually been out to 'massacre innocents by a war machine', do you not think the casualty rate would have been in the thousands, if not tens of thousands?

What is your point ? Those are not the true numbers or just poor shooting ?

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Amazing number of shots fired by trained army and trained snipers, and so few people injured or killed.???

Over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured.

Dad's Army would have a better success rate than that or is a Red Shirt supporter telling porkies again

Here is a fact

On 17 May, Thai military helicopters dropped leaflets on the Red Shirt's main encampment, urging them to leave. The Red Shirts responded by firing homemade rockets at the helicopters.

As much as you guys might think you are able to, you cannot just make up facts.

Army under fire over bullets

The army has ordered all units to return unused bullets from last year's protests after it was revealed in parliament that 100,000 were fired, including about 2,500 sniper rounds.

Pol Lt Col Somchai Phetprasoet, a Puea Thai MP for Nakhon Ratchasima and chairman of the House committee on military affairs, told the House that army units withdrew about 600,000 bullets from arsenals for the crackdown, including 3,000 7.62-mm bullets for SG-3000 sniper rifles.

They used more than 100,000 of them in their operations against red-shirt protesters.

Deliberately obtuse? The point raised was that if 100,000 bullets were fired and only 90 people killed (less actually) then the impact rate is around once per 1100 rounds. The US Army sniper school claim a success rate of 3 kills per 4 shots for their graduates. For 2500 sniper rounds fired, expect more than 1800 dead.

An army of blind chimps armed with assault rifles could have had more success, assuming the intent was to actually kill the poor innocent protesters.

So, your point is ?

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Quite correct. Prayuth and his men showed true fortitude and patience in the face of those brutal terrorists even when they were questioned as to why they were being too tolerant of them. Ahbisit was even being questioned over his control of the army as they were a force with no teeth in the outset when they used rubber bullets and water cannons against military grade weapons...

In Brisbane, Australia a man with a knife enters the Queen Street Mall while everyone is trying to go about there business and THAT IS WHEN the police come in and used live fire.

In Bangkok, Thailand brutal terrorists threaten to blow up LPG truck, perform grenade attacks at Thai banks, attacked Thai charity with grenades, stormed parliament, attacked NPP and TPI buildings with M16 and grenades, (this was around the time tear gas and rubber bullets were fired by the soldiers), stormed police hospital, stormed TV station (people started questioning Ahbisits control of the soldiers after the lack of resistance they offered the terrorists on this occasion), bomb attacks on electricity pylons, 2 police taken hostage, destroyed CCTV cameras and dumped tyres on sky train tracks and THAT IS WHEN the army came in and used live fire.

Of coarse the UDD want you to believe that people with flowers in their hair were signing kombaya around a camp fire while a guitarist wearing a peace symbol necklace with long braided hair was being slaughtered by a weapon firing 300 bullets a second in the merciless grip of a huge demonizing muscle bound soldier that has fire in his eyes and a vendetta to kill as many innocent people as he can.

Prayuth testifying will only make the brutal UDD terrorists look worse than they already look.

The Reds were totally surrounded ... they couldn't get out to put anything on skytrain tracks ... I think you believe the yellow propaganda

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I would LOVE to see the ruling junta commit themselves to pulling in tourists and retirees by any means necessary. They have "fast track authority" by virtue of ruling by decree. They could streamline procedures, institute a Cambodian-style "ordinary visa" and find Thailand rolling in tourist and retiree dollars in no time at all.They have a golden opportunity. They should seize it.

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And this is crystal clear.

The man has nothing to hide or being afraid to testify.

We all know the reasons of that crackdown and we also know that the reds were responsible for what happened.

Anarchy is not acceptable and will be tolerated the same way if happens again.

All other excuses and crying by certain members should be ignored.

Live fire zones set up in the middle of the city, over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured - nothing to hide?

How is it that the Yellows (PAD, PITAK SIAM, PDRC) have spent far more time protesting in the streets (and airport) yet the military has never felt the need to go out and slaughter them?

Anarchy is not acceptable? <deleted> was it that Suthep and his merry mob of Southern thugs were doing? Your double standards defy logic.

People in the streets fighting for their freedom get massacred by their own military and you side with the killers - despicable.

Amazing number of shots fired by trained army and trained snipers, and so few people injured or killed.???

Over 100,00 live rounds fired by the army and over 2,500 high velocity sniper rounds fired, over 90 people murdered (including those cowering in the temple) and several thousands injured.

Dad's Army would have a better success rate than that or is a Red Shirt supporter telling porkies again

Here is a fact

On 17 May, Thai military helicopters dropped leaflets on the Red Shirt's main encampment, urging them to leave. The Red Shirts responded by firing homemade rockets at the helicopters.

Homemade rockets .... and you believe that ? ... you are having a laugh ! ... strange how you only believe the propaganda from the side you support and dismiss anything the the other side says as "porkies" ... Also Suthep's lot stormed government buildings and caused untold misery in Bangkok .... but the army didn't feel the need to take the same action. You have double standards
Here ya go :

Home made rockets.. You gotta remember these protesters came from rocket festival country.

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You obviously didn't see the BBC photo of a soldier on the rooftop with an assault rifle fitted with telescopic sights. Assault rifles are only accurate to 1 to 200 metres, only a Rambo wantabee fits telescopic sights to such a weapon.

90 killed, how many injured ?

Having seen the quality of ammunition issued to Thai forces I wouldn't be surprised if a significant number of rounds were dud or not fully charged and failed to reach their intended target.

I'm not defending anyone here and you're right, militaries fire a lot of rounds that miss, especially if the select fire switch is on fully automatic.

I don't know that Thai ammunition is bad quality. The military uses the 5.56 NATO round which I doubt is made in LOS. It is of the highest quality and made under strict controls.

AK-47's are accurate only to about 200 - 300 meters if that. M16's (5.56 NATO) switched to single fire mode are accurate to more like 400 meters. It is very common to put a scope on an M16 for certain purposes.

Isn't it possible that some of that ammo was stolen rather than fired? There seems to be a lot of 5.56 and 9 mm NATO ammo floating around LOS and those are what the military uses.

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Question : Shouldn't Prayuth, as leader in charge of the army duringn the crack down, sit on the bench next to Abhisit and Suthep?

Answer : No, he should sit one bench upfront as he was likely the one responsible for the orders to fire.

Nope! Actually the guy responsible for security as being the deputy prime minister, Ms. Monk should be on the front. It is difficult to understand why army was so supportive to this government (of course it is not), but not to the previous one. As they said during the monkeymess "we do not interfere in politics". Last May they realized that monk(ey) business is not leading anywhere and they had to take over.

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Deliberately obtuse? The point raised was that if 100,000 bullets were fired and only 90 people killed (less actually) then the impact rate is around once per 1100 rounds. The US Army sniper school claim a success rate of 3 kills per 4 shots for their graduates. For 2500 sniper rounds fired, expect more than 1800 dead.

An army of blind chimps armed with assault rifles could have had more success, assuming the intent was to actually kill the poor innocent protesters.

So, your point is ?

The point is was that the policy was to aim to miss but intimidate for most shots fired; and that the claims of mass murder are simply BS.

ONE man with a normal complement of rounds could kill more than 90 people in a crowd if that was his intent.

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