jdinasia Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So, no. None of those things have happened to you. You seem to be assuming that Pattaya1 and other private news sources run stories based upon the prevalence of crimes and not based on sales.... Would it hurt or help overall sales if they reported every crime committed by hookers (f) in Pattaya? Does the rather prurient fascination people have with ladyboy help or hurt income when they run stories? I would be interested in actual crime statistics in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brling Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 what a load of cobblers. The lady got a hole smashed in her head with a high heel shoe. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and you think lady boys on waling street are ok. What a complete wing nut. Correct, "a complete wing nut". Not only does the apologist blame the victim, he even blames "the church " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Somebody asked about crime statistics here they are from a last month's ladyboy bashing thread: Pattaya News documented incidents from 1 Aug 14 to the present which is a 6 month time frame. CATEGORY MAN WOMAN LADYBOYASSUALT 70 5 1 THEFT 70 8 8GANG 45 0 3DRUGS 44 17 1DRIVING 35 4 0MURDER 15 0 0OTHER 55 15 2 #INCIDENTS 334 49 15 What this means is out of all the criminal incidents (398) 84% were commited by men, 12% by women and 4% by ladyboys. The above was posted in a previous ladyboy bashing thread. I dont know what's up with centering on the ladyboy hating all the time? There are pages upon pages of crimes and seems the news here has to single out ladyboys each time an incident occurs. People are people and like I said before, ladyboys should be the least of your worries in Pattaya and for that matter anywhere else in Thailand. These stats do not include this months however, Im sure they follow the same trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yes. If people get confused, they tend to seek a consistent cognitive frame in their authorities. The Catholic Church is one of the highest authorities in Poland, especially when sex is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull. No. Perception isn't everything. Using that as an excuse for bigotry and stereotyping is sad. You didn't answer my questions regarding sales of news.... But you aren't obligated to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull. No.Perception isn't everything. Using that as an excuse for bigotry and stereotyping is sad. The complete saying is "reality is irrelevant: perception is everything "... Which is great if you live in a fantasy world. You didn't answer my questions regarding sales of news.... But you aren't obligated to. Edited March 18, 2015 by jdinasia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 jdinasia: Reality is one thing, stereotyping is another thing. Farang stereotypes take is as given that all ladyboys are prostitutes, which is far from being true. The role of media should be to provide differential views, but the sad reality is that many mass media only support prejudices. Hope the Polish woman will recover soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 A flame post removed. Also troll posts and replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull. First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished. The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news Edited March 18, 2015 by 2fishin2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolley Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished. The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished.The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished.The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality Exactly correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished.The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. I guess you didn't bother to read the facts. They dont lie. You are very much incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality I consider that insulting - I drink in several bars that have katoey staff members and I get on well with most of them. I've drunk with them, I've played pool with them and I've laughed with them, but I'm not interested in turning this into a 'some of my best friends are gays, lesbians and transgender minorities' thread : my sexuality or your presumption of homophobia has nothing to do with my opinion of the Coconut Bar brigade and everything to do with the level of desperation down there at the moment, magnified by a meth epidemic that no-one in this city seems to take seriously. If you honestly believe there has only been one reported assault involving a katoey in the last 6 months then I guess we'll just have to wait until they get PattayaOne back online. Criminals are criminals, regardless of what they're wearing or what genitalia they were born with - whether they've been driven to it by a lack of customers or not, leaving people comatose with no money/passport (or worse) is about as low as it gets and I'm convinced that Coconut Bar and the first hundred or so metres of Walking St play host to some of the nastiest katoeys in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 @jakesully, Mate, I'd let it go - we dont get to question the mods decisions. Can't say I've seen 10 incidents in one evening anywhere in Pattaya, but if the bloody mutt downstairs doesnt stop yapping there will be an incident worthy of PattayaOne's time and energy. <deleted> Thais in that moo bahn sleep straight through the rousing reception their treasured mutts give the garbos around 4am so I might as well just have breakfast and wait for the howling to commence. Good times, and I'm several kilometres from WS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fishin2 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished.The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality So, you are a gay activist? Who cares? That's not the point of this thread. Take your bashing of people somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 A post discussing moderation removed along with one argumentative post. Time to stop the bickering, Thank you. petercool - moderator team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I have said it many times before, these damn ladyboys are a curse upon Pattaya. When the police want to cut down down on crime, the first thing they do is to round up the ladyboys on beach road. The police know where crime comes from..... And yeah, having wacked out Thai guys full of hormones, wearing bolt ons, and wearing a dress to fool fresh tourists, is a formula for crime. Generally they stick to pick pocketing and drugging tourists. This full on attack with a shoe as a weapon will not be playing out well with the police. Also it is a man attacking a woman, am surprised he needed a shoe as an additional weapon. Guess Polish women must be tough.... :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I have said it many times before, these damn ladyboys are a curse upon Pattaya. When the police want to cut down down on crime, the first thing they do is to round up the ladyboys on beach road. The police know where crime comes from..... And yeah, having wacked out Thai guys full of hormones, wearing bolt ons, and wearing a dress to fool fresh tourists, is a formula for crime. Generally they stick to pick pocketing and drugging tourists. This full on attack with a shoe as a weapon will not be playing out well with the police. Also it is a man attacking a woman, am surprised he needed a shoe as an additional weapon. Guess Polish women must be tough.... :-) You have strong opinions but they simply aren't born out by facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished.The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality Is your boyfriend a Lady boy ? if so is he violet towards you when you disagree over something. has he ever hit you with a shoe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished.The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality Is your boyfriend a Lady boy ? if so is he violet towards you when you disagree over something. has he ever hit you with a shoe ? Ummm no. My husband is not a ladyboy. He's a lighter tone of tan than I am. He's never hit me. How much have you had to drink today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I don't care what you say about ladyboys, but the "ladyboy under the bed scam" that seems to be a favorite of the India tourists, never gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I don't care what you say about ladyboys, but the "ladyboy under the bed scam" that seems to be a favorite of the India tourists, never gets old. Is this the part where I say I want all the Indians, Arabs and ladyboys on buses bound for Vientiane by 9pm tonight ? I won't, because I like Indian food and it's just what @jdinasia would expect me to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolley Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) Perception is everything. If I'm walking down Beach Road and there are two men on one side of the road and two katoeys on the other, I will move the side with the men, regardless of how large or intimidating they appear to be. @2fishin2's table makes absolutely no sense to me unless Pattaya's katoeys have suddenly stopped taking drugs en masse - as for a single reported assault by a ladyboy in the past 6 months, that is nothing short of laughable. Sadly, when I tried to get to the PattayaOne site it appears to be down for 'a major upgrade', but any sane adult who follows the news items here will know that table is very poor reflection of the number of negative news items featuring transsexual prostitutes in Pattaya. Feel free to carry on defending the indefensible and blaming a woman with a potentially life-threatening wound on her skull.First lets get this straight. No where in my post did I defend the violent actions of the ladyboy. I do not defend or condone violence in any way. What happened was wrong and the ladyboy should be punished. The facts do not lie. They are straight out of the same news source that many of the Pattaya news stories come from Pattaya News. You are very much more likely to be cut, robbed, stabbed, murdered by a man or woman vs a ladyboy actually over 90% more likely. Those are the facts and truth. Your statements are based in assumptions, innuendos, and hatred of a group of people. The perception of people just because the are "different" is prejudicial and inflammatory. If you would rather walk to the other side if the street please do so. The perception of bad ladyboys is a misperception. If the news reported by TV was balanced you would realize it. Unfortunately it is not and the sensationalism of reporting ladyboy stories is a norm here and is what causes this misperception. It is what it is. http://pattayadailynews.com/category/hot-news In Pattaya ladyboys are a scourge and responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. Blokes with frocks and bolt ons full of hormones and drugs looking for easy scores from tourists. You would be well wise to be very wary especially later in the night when they are marauding around looking for easy pickings. Yet not according to statistics. I personally think that the phobic reactions so many men have may be linked to their insecurity surrounding their sexuality Who would believe any statistics published here? Just like everything else here you can take those statistics with a grain of salt. Anyone who has been around Pattaya for any length of time knows full well what problems katoeys bring in Pattaya. Most aren't 'true' katoeys rather they are blokes who seeing what a lot of sexy young women make in the sex industry decide to try their luck on the buffalo farangs by getting a good set of bolt ons and taking a dose of hormones. Some do quute well but plenty don't and the result is a bunch of desperados looking for any chance to make a quick buck. Caveat emptor Edited March 19, 2015 by Tolley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) If the assailant was a Thai man, the crap would really have hit the fan. If anything, his LB status has minimized criticism. oops. Just got that in time !!!!!!!!!!! Edited March 19, 2015 by onemorechang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Tolley That's so true. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwide Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 @Tolley, someone made the point earlier that not all katoeys work in the sex/nightlife industry and that is absolutely true, but I believe it ties into what you're saying 100%. The feminine katoeys who find 'real' jobs - including the shrinking number of salaried bargirl jobs - are world's apart from the 6'+ apparitions that loom over visitors to Soi 6 (not that there are many these days) and WS. The other point I would make is that we have no way of knowing how many thefts go unreported when the victim is too embarrassed to make a Police report. Years ago, what happened in Pattaya stayed in Pattaya (unless you were silly enough to marry it) - not so in 2015. PattayaOne is more than happy to splash photos of yourself and the alleged thieves/attackers, along with the juicy details, all over their front page for your mates back in Brisbane/Birmingham/Boston to pee their pants over. It wasn't hard dealing with the knowing looks whenever I left the office for a holiday in Thailand, but the thought of going back to that office with someone waving a printout of a P-One story at me is a singularly humiliating prospect. Being drugged and robbed by anyone would be hard to deal with - knowing that the rest of world knew you fell prey to one or more katoeys would make the flight home even more unbearable than it already is. Throw in the low opinion most of us have of the Thai cops and I think this is a distinct possibility. End of the day, I'm not here to demonise Pattaya's katoeys, but I wont defend the actions of those who are clearly possessed by some kind of demon when they get into a confrontation, and that would appear to be what has happened in this case. If the katoey in that photo couldn't defend herself against a woman without resorting to the use of a weapon - and that's what that heel is - I dont fancy her longterm survival chances in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrWorldwide Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Seems a UK tabloid got hold of the story and they had no such qualms about pointing the finger - I will only quote what the Thai police said: A police spokesman said: 'She admitted attacking the woman but said she had done it in a fit of rage at being slighted. She said the Polish woman had insulted her. 'She has been charged with causing bodily harm and is being kept in detention pending trial.' When was the last time you tried to kill someone because they insulted you ? This is the exact 'loss of face' scenario we normally associate with the worst Thai men in Pattaya - which is no surprise because that is the exact gene pool this katoey is drawn from. She should have been drug tested but I guess the BiB have activities far more worthy of their time and effort. Edited March 24, 2015 by Rimmer A link to a forbidden news source has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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