jerojero Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Just more TAT BS... blah, blah, blah.. .... Quality Tourist... blah, blah... Sick of it already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilymat Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I have a tourist venue and meet Russian tourists once in awhile. I hear stories of Russkies in southern beach resorts acting badly and getting drunk. But I don't see those type of Russkies, because my venue is outdoors and wholesome fun for the whole family - therefore I see the good end of the spectrum. As for 'weight-loss' programs, I bet dollars to donuts all those proposed or existing venues will have the same sugar-laden fattening crap on hand, as you find all over Thailand. It's like having an emphazema ward (cancer of the lungs) with cigarette machines. There are two reasons why there are so many fat people everywhere: lack of exercise, and SUGAR. Good post. I thought the Russians went to the Black Sea, to be coated in mud. That's what they were doing the last time I was there. Also, of course, it would be much cheaper than coming to a specific, so far unidentified zone' of Thailand to lose weight. I agree, the Russians I met were quite normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50baht Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I've often wondered why a Chinese or Russian group did not buy a large chunk of land in, say Krabi or closeby, and build "Chinaland" or "Russialand" complete with their own hotels, restaurants, beach clubs, supermarkets, clubs and do what they like. Someone with money and influence could schedule flights to Krabi and shuttle their people back and forth from the airport and they could make the bulk of the money rather than share it with the Thai hotels, restaurants and bars. ...and they could still have a fat clinic if they wanted. They have. It's called Jomtien. Next to Pattaya. Has everything Russian including hitmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerdT Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It always amazes me to see that TAT is up to the challenge. Previously when the PM went to India and returning to Thailand suggesting to develop tourism from that country TAT had a plan for wedding venues that would drive Indians in large groups to Thailand. Now the PM did meat the Russian President and discussed strengthening the relations between Russia and Thailand and TAT has a plan to get more Russian tourists into the country. It looks to me that TAT is always one step behind the PM when announcing there great plans. Reality is they have no vision and no clues and live by the book that has been written somewhere but certainly not in Thailand. Tourists are people with an expendable income and it doesn’t matter what country they are coming from they are looking for something they can’t get in their own country when booking a holiday. Thailand is blessed with beautiful beaches, islands and nature regions that are unique in the world. Maybe it would be a great idea to take stock of these regions and look how they are managed, because I believe that mismanagement of the regions and the arriving tourists is the biggest problem Thailand faces in developing a stable and growing tourist business. People that have been to other holiday places in other countries might confirm that Thailand in the ability to take advantage of tourists is extreme, by permitting schemes that are not established to enrich a holiday for the tourist but for the local strongman to fill his pockets. Certainly local business should profit from tourism but what tourist is willing to put another nickel or dime into the pocket of a Thai business when being ripped of as soon as getting of the plane and if that situation continues during the complete holiday? Tourists like to spend money but they also expect something back in return which seems fair in comparison to the amount they spend. Why not have suggestion boxes in hotels at these resources that permit tourists to make suggestions what could be improved or they see as a fault in how tourists are managed? The suggestions and faults don’t have to be restricted to the hotels (which I found every time excellent when in Thailand) but also the local businesses around these resources that make a living of these tourists. Of course their will be suggestions and faults that are unreasonable but it will help to develop a source of information what tourists are looking for and what seems to bother them. It would also help TAT when coming up with their next brainstorming idea how to get more tourists into Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Russian currency is down by 40%, making holidays in Thailand 40% and anywhere overseas more expensive for the average Russian and here TOT is focussing on that market with a ludicrous scheme. Here's an idea - why not let tourists bring their own chairs to the beach versus lying in the sand? Oh, err no, thats now illegal of course............... I can tell you half of the beach going market has/will disappear as well by the end of 2015 and replacing that with obese Russians on a dietary holiday is a fine example on marketing insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 She did not even take the time to think this one out. Just incredible stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 She is making herself more ridiculous by the day. What is best for Thailand mr. general fire this lady. She actually insulted Russian women in her official capacity. This cannot be tolerated by any government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie obda Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Simple. Install stairclimber machine at FamilyMart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 She did not even take the time to think this one out. Just incredible stupidity. If you had followed the illustrious career of Madame Kobkarn, you wouldn't be surprised.......... Gaffe followed by gaffe follow........................................ To mention a few favorites: Wristband for tourists (in case they should get lost and/or murdered) Apply for the Olympic Games............................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowyy73 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 build some shot putt and hammer throwing centers that will get the laddies flocking in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Also means an increase in violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Dang Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Oh, so that is why the Russian was here the other day pressing the flesh with Mr. P. What was the dialogue ? "Ok comrade you keep the umbrellas and chairs, but we get a Fat Farm, right ?" FYI, that is not really a great photo for exhibiting the the Russian body beautiful. Both Nuggets there, and the fairy princesses. There are countries in this world where that attire would not be considered to be in good taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabra Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Why!!!!! ?????? ........they have no respect for Thai People, or there Traditions..... The fewer the better,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile when You can Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 8 April 2015. If you have been around a crowd, or even a few,. Russian visitors you will heartily support any effort to a) deny them visas in the first place, restrict where they can go, c) offer low cost bariatric surgery to all Russian passport holders, and d) expedite immigration procedures on their exit. A less civilised, louder, and more rude people are not to be found in Thailand. They are horrors, not to be encouraged. But...Thailand needs the money, so they will continue to be welcomed by authorities. Just not be anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james2m Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Maybe they shouldn't target more rather better. Maybe some psychological profiling to ensure they don't go crazy and attack temples, bite police officers legs, get into fights with shemales, that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 A troll calling post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Thailand to be a fat farm for Russians? Sounds vile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibruno Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I've often wondered why a Chinese or Russian group did not buy a large chunk of land in, say Krabi or closeby, and build "Chinaland" or "Russialand" complete with their own hotels, restaurants, beach clubs, supermarkets, clubs and do what they like. Someone with money and influence could schedule flights to Krabi and shuttle their people back and forth from the airport and they could make the bulk of the money rather than share it with the Thai hotels, restaurants and bars. ...and they could still have a fat clinic if they wanted. they are doing this already, along with the koreans and other natnalities they set up thier own jewelly shops , massage parlours , tour operators , restaurants etc etc like the koreans who pay for a package tour in thier own country [no money into thailand ] then come here and use vouchers to shop in thier own shops, have massage in thier own shops , go on tour with thier own operators eat thier own food and very little income for any locals they do this in many countries , not just thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minikev Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It always amazes me to see that TAT is up to the challenge. Previously when the PM went to India and returning to Thailand suggesting to develop tourism from that country TAT had a plan for wedding venues that would drive Indians in large groups to Thailand. Now the PM did meat the Russian President and discussed strengthening the relations between Russia and Thailand and TAT has a plan to get more Russian tourists into the country. It looks to me that TAT is always one step behind the PM when announcing there great plans. Reality is they have no vision and no clues and live by the book that has been written somewhere but certainly not in Thailand. Tourists are people with an expendable income and it doesn’t matter what country they are coming from they are looking for something they can’t get in their own country when booking a holiday. Thailand is blessed with beautiful beaches, islands and nature regions that are unique in the world. Maybe it would be a great idea to take stock of these regions and look how they are managed, because I believe that mismanagement of the regions and the arriving tourists is the biggest problem Thailand faces in developing a stable and growing tourist business. People that have been to other holiday places in other countries might confirm that Thailand in the ability to take advantage of tourists is extreme, by permitting schemes that are not established to enrich a holiday for the tourist but for the local strongman to fill his pockets. Certainly local business should profit from tourism but what tourist is willing to put another nickel or dime into the pocket of a Thai business when being ripped of as soon as getting of the plane and if that situation continues during the complete holiday? Tourists like to spend money but they also expect something back in return which seems fair in comparison to the amount they spend. Why not have suggestion boxes in hotels at these resources that permit tourists to make suggestions what could be improved or they see as a fault in how tourists are managed? The suggestions and faults don’t have to be restricted to the hotels (which I found every time excellent when in Thailand) but also the local businesses around these resources that make a living of these tourists. Of course their will be suggestions and faults that are unreasonable but it will help to develop a source of information what tourists are looking for and what seems to bother them. It would also help TAT when coming up with their next brainstorming idea how to get more tourists into Thailand. A really good post that absolutely nails the problem's of tourism in this country. One major problem that stops them permitting tourists making suggestions is that the person/persons passing on these suggestions are ruled by the village head and if the suggestion has the possibility of reducing his income it will never be passed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minikev Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 build some shot putt and hammer throwing centers that will get the laddies flocking in!! Was laddies intentional. If so it was funny If not so it was lucky and funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 There is an entire Tourism and Hospitality industry that has been developed here based on the use of English and the hope that some day Western standards might arise. With Russians on the way, that investment becomes useless. What a disaster for Thailand were this plan to ever take root, which it never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Why is the guy in the photo in the OP wearing a traffic cone on his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 So Thailand has finally narrowed down who are their valued visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 So Thailand has finally narrowed down who are their valued visitors. "Narrow" is not exactly a term I would use in an article relating to Russian tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli1 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The Ministry of Tourism and and Sports and the Tourism Authority of Thailand are joining hands developing tourist spots in response particularly to Russian tourists' demands. So . . . we should see more tourist spots with an overabundance of bars and hookers. Let's keep welcoming those quality tourists. I can say in all my years of traveling, the only "vice" I have seen them partake in is whatever is the lowest price alcohol in a 7-11. If the country depended on them for supporting the "bars and hookers" you speak of, they would have about 8 rubles..... Mate you are Absolutely right about the Russians they are "cheap Charles" they like to buy there beer from 7-11 and walk the streets of Pattaya Unlike us Aussies, pommies,Yanks...and so on that acutely spend money and tip the locals. Thai's are the thickest people that ever walked the earth 100% I am sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I guess the minister for tourism is eager to have any large number of tourists who will come . I have read that both Russian and Chinese tourists can be unruly and troublesome . If not Bangkok and Pattaya , what other cities might the be directed to Khon Kaen , Udon Thani , Chang mai , Nongkai . Clinic resorts are generally luxurious and very expensive , also take limited numbers at a time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbirds20 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I have never seen a more disrespectful group pf people than the Russians. The do not even like Thai people and certainly have no respect for your culture or customs. They only come here because you make it easy for them to come. They already took over your best beach resorts and now you want to develop more for them? To make my point, ... do you ever see Russians in Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, or anywhere in Isaan? .. but you see lots of other tourists there, that appreciate and respect your culture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestBitterPhuket Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Olga and Vladimir are coming to a village in Isaan near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Way more scary than any Russians are the racist and stereotyping Thaivisa posters!! What a sad bunch!! Back home I had Russians working for me. Reliable, honest and very hardworking people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's simple. The Russians need the beach and the sea. If it's clean then it is perfect. That is why they are coming for. For the bloody beaches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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