cairene Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Hello All A family member has asked that I return with some of this from an upcoming summer visit to Chiang Mai. The only CM source I can find online is Doi Chang Coffee, but does anyone know if there are any other retailers (supermarkets?) that sell this? If only Doi Chang, does anyone know where I can locate a Doi Chang coffeeshop / retailer that sells it? Preferably the Old City area, but can also try other possible sites (malls,etc.). Any / all suggestions are appreciated. Image attached. Thanks. Cairene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar2 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I passed a place called Weasel Coffee (Vietnamese chain) yesterday. they offer a similar product. was going to have a coffee (139 Baht/cup) but the place was packed at the time - standing room only. Thais have have come a long way since the days of 10 Bath cafe boran sold on the streets of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) How do they produce this stuff? Why does its say "wild" on the tin? I allways thought they kept captive animals in small cages of mesh to allow the excrement to be collected below? Intriguing. Edited May 15, 2015 by Whale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeichen Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I don't understand why anyone would drink something that came out of a varmit ahole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I passed a place called Weasel Coffee (Vietnamese chain) yesterday. they offer a similar product. was going to have a coffee (139 Baht/cup) but the place was packed at the time - standing room only. Thais have have come a long way since the days of 10 Bath cafe boran sold on the streets of Thailand. 139 bt for a cup of coffee? There's a "coffee mug" born every minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 There is a place in the mountains (Doi Taeng Coffee) above Mae Taeng that has over a dozen civet cats in small cages supporting this type of coffee. I am quite tempted to go up there some night and snip holes in the cages. These civet cats should be in the forest, not in cages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PostmanPat Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Had a tasting of this when in Bali a couple of years ago. In my opinion this really is a case of "the emperors new clothes".....it actually doesnt taste different or better than decent quality normal coffee......but I suppose if its "fashionable & trendy" and you dont mind paying at least double the price of normal coffee, then good luck !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMMCB Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I agree with T-Dog, these "wild" animals should be left in the wild. If we don't buy this coffee, they won't cage the poor animals. Stick to the fair-trade stuff, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Don't know if it's still there but I remember seeing it at Airport Plaza in that local products bit at the north/west end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNXBKKMAN Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I notice a vietnamese place has it . Vietnamese and Chinese people love eating this kind of crap. Dogs , endangered species, tigers, bear bile etc all giving you special powers and health benefits. I wont have anything to do with it. My baht stays in my pocket. If your happy with animals spending there life being force fed coffee beans in a little cage, search this stuff out and buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippydedodah Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 civet cat coffee is so 1990s... now you have to give the elephant poop coffee a go! Black Ivory Coffee and it is "naturally refined" by elephants. 50 USD a cup and only available in exclusive fine hotels... farmed a bit north of chiang mai, the guy who does it has to go to the hotel and teach them how to brew and serve, after selling them an exclusive coffee making device. The manufacturer claims to donate 90% of profits to elephant causes and so on... check out his website http://www.blackivorycoffee.com/#!about/aboutPage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMMCB Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Surely, in this era of self-sufficiency, animal protection and eco-awareness, the best thing would be to eat the beans yourself and collect the harvest the next morning. DIY coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I visit all the cat coffe farms in bali 2 years ago , and what I see with my own eyes does not make me happy , the take Wild runing cats outside there natural wild life , and hold them in small cages only to produce this coffee! So animal lovers should not support and buy this product! It has blood on his Hans! Sorry was long time offline canot access my Acount Thx to Linda from support team since today in works again , and good old sandman come back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilt Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Doi Chang coffee joints sell the "wild" civet coffee. About 2000B a pack - and a small pack at that. WILD CIVET coffee means just that... someone forages through the hills looking for wild civet poop. The regular stuff is civets in cages fed coffee beans. Obviously the wild stuff is much more desirable. Geezus, I would eat coffee beans if I thought I could sell them for 2000B an ounce after I pooped 'em. Hmmmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Doi Chang coffee joints sell the "wild" civet coffee. About 2000B a pack - and a small pack at that. WILD CIVET coffee means just that... someone forages through the hills looking for wild civet poop. The regular stuff is civets in cages fed coffee beans. Obviously the wild stuff is much more desirable. Geezus, I would eat coffee beans if I thought I could sell them for 2000B an ounce after I pooped 'em. Hmmmmm...... I doubt there has ever been a person that has found a coffee bean in civet scat in the wild. 100% of it comes from caged animals with only coffee beans to eat and perhaps a few scraps of lettuce. The animals are beautiful and calm in the wild, but highly agitated in the cages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnambulist Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Doi Chang coffee joints sell the "wild" civet coffee. About 2000B a pack - and a small pack at that. WILD CIVET coffee means just that... someone forages through the hills looking for wild civet poop. The regular stuff is civets in cages fed coffee beans. Obviously the wild stuff is much more desirable. Geezus, I would eat coffee beans if I thought I could sell them for 2000B an ounce after I pooped 'em. Hmmmmm...... I doubt there has ever been a person that has found a coffee bean in civet scat in the wild. 100% of it comes from caged animals with only coffee beans to eat and perhaps a few scraps of lettuce. The animals are beautiful and calm in the wild, but highly agitated in the cages. The owner of Suan Lahu coffee claims her civet coffee is collected in the wild and that it's relatively easy to do so because they crap in the same place habitually. I haven't tried it because it's over 10,000 baht per kilo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman77 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 So kopi luwak is the main name of this cat coffee or only a brand name? Akha coffe was defently better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdietz Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I don't understand why anyone would drink something that came out of a varmit ahole. ^ That, totally. I'll have some eggs instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogNo1 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Well, I can understand why the civets would be agitated after eating coffee beans all day. I'm curious about why they don't chew the beans -OR DO THEY? Also, I had thought that civet dung coffee was good because the cats chose to only eat the best beans, not just because they had partially digested them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I passed a place called Weasel Coffee (Vietnamese chain) yesterday. they offer a similar product. was going to have a coffee (139 Baht/cup) but the place was packed at the time - standing room only. Thais have have come a long way since the days of 10 Bath cafe boran sold on the streets of Thailand. 139 bt for a cup of coffee? There's a "coffee mug" born every minute Mugs? this literally passed through Civet a second time coffee beans,SH** is fetching £350 a cup! according to a UK TV Program! some people have so much money they do not know what to spend it on! Even more unbelievable is the last bottle of Cognac 1811? @ £5000 a shot! the owner hand picks his customers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Dog Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Doi Chang coffee joints sell the "wild" civet coffee. About 2000B a pack - and a small pack at that. WILD CIVET coffee means just that... someone forages through the hills looking for wild civet poop. The regular stuff is civets in cages fed coffee beans. Obviously the wild stuff is much more desirable. Geezus, I would eat coffee beans if I thought I could sell them for 2000B an ounce after I pooped 'em. Hmmmmm...... I doubt there has ever been a person that has found a coffee bean in civet scat in the wild. 100% of it comes from caged animals with only coffee beans to eat and perhaps a few scraps of lettuce. The animals are beautiful and calm in the wild, but highly agitated in the cages. The owner of Suan Lahu coffee claims her civet coffee is collected in the wild and that it's relatively easy to do so because they crap in the same place habitually. I haven't tried it because it's over 10,000 baht per kilo. Civet cats in the wild will normally eat a varied mix of forest nuts, berries, and roots. Only by putting them in cages can you concentrate their coffee bean intake and digestion to ensure decent revenue. Here's a quote from the attached article from Malaysia: "But nowadays, it is practically impossible to find genuine wild kopi luwak – the only way to guarantee that would be to actually follow a luwak around all night yourself, one experienced coffee trader told me." http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/sep/13/civet-coffee-cut-the-crap You can drink what you want, but realize that you are supporting an industry that takes animals from the wild to provide the product. I've seen the animals in cages and I didn't like the sight one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PostmanPat Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Mugs? this literally passed through Civet a second time coffee beans,SH** is fetching £350 a cup! according to a UK TV Program! some people have so much money they do not know what to spend it on! Even more unbelievable is the last bottle of Cognac 1811? @ £5000 a shot! the owner hand picks his customers! I saw that programme too. Vomit inducing !! It seems that the "super rich" billionaire residents of London ( mostly Russian, Arab or Chinese) will pay literally any price for a food item just because nobody else can have it. eg. a dessert at £500 a shot because it contains water melted from the glacier at the top of Mount Kilimanjaro!! These people are not only billionaires but they also probably pay no tax as they will fall into the "non dom" status ie theoretically not UK resident !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Well, I can understand why the civets would be agitated after eating coffee beans all day. I'm curious about why they don't chew the beans -OR DO THEY? Also, I had thought that civet dung coffee was good because the cats chose to only eat the best beans, not just because they had partially digested them. A little clarification, coffee beans are not beans, they are the seed of a fruit, a small "cherry" like many small fruits, they are "designed' by nature to be eaten and the seed passed through the animal undigested and deposited in another locatjon in it's own little pile of fertilizer. If you knew the civet poop station and had many coffee trees, especially if you picked the fruit and left it in a bowls on the ground, there could be "wild" civet coffee......most will come from caged ones though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunsakda Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'll stick with the regular coffee beans. From what I learned in Vietnam most beans labeled "Weasel" are likely fake. Laced with artificial flavours and adulterants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairene Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Thanks All. I've changed my mind as has my family member after reading all your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somnambulist Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Trung Nguyen, my favorite coffee, is thought to be civet coffee but nowadays they use a chemical process to get the same result, no little furry animal involved. It's really cheap, too. If you're ever on a visa run to Vientiane there are sellers in the central market that have it. At least, two years ago they did. Can't say if it's toxic or not, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321Rich Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Amazon dot com will be glad to ship you all the Civet coffee beans you want. I think it comes from the Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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