Popular Post Auke Posted May 16, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2015 This afternoon I was having lunch as usual, but the Chang Beer with it tasted awful. So I asked for a new glass, put no ice in it; went back to basics. Still the same. When I studied the label on the bottle I found that they changed the alcohol content back to 5,8%. So that is two times in a few years: first from 6,4% to 6%, and now down to 5,8%. The taste changed remarkably, so maybe they also changed the recipe. Any way, in my opinion they should not put that 'Gold Award' label on the bottles anymore. First of all because that price was awarded to a totally different beer, so advertising with it now is consumer deceit. And second because the beer tastes awful now and is not worth any award what so ever. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 As always when I start sampling exotic foreign beers, I landed on Chang beer, because it had the highest alcohol content. I don't get a headache like other people, I just go sleep all afternoon so it is long off my list. I drink Archah now, or Leo when I have some cash. Chang is based on rice fermentation unlike any Western beer, leave it alone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Mango Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cooked you should check out how they make Leo . Think you'll find thats rice based :-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChangMaiSausage Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 This was discussed in great detail last week. Simple answer don't drink Chang change your brand I have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post recycler Posted May 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2015 With most Thai beers if older than 1 to 3 months the taste goes bad, in colder climates that takes much longer. Maybe you just had an older bottle, they don't really bother about "First In First Out" anywhere in the distribution chain, nor the restaurant or shop, so it can happen that you get an old bottle. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cheers over plenty of ice does the trick for me when I'm feeling cheap. Red Horse has a punch and is also for cheap when I'm feeling cheap and nasty, but is harder to find. Chang Export is for special occasions, like when I have some money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 With most Thai beers if older than 1 to 3 months the taste goes bad, in colder climates that takes much longer. Maybe you just had an older bottle, they don't really bother about "First In First Out" anywhere in the distribution chain, nor the restaurant or shop, so it can happen that you get an old bottle. Who keeps beer around longer than a week? let alone a month or 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 With most Thai beers if older than 1 to 3 months the taste goes bad, in colder climates that takes much longer. Maybe you just had an older bottle, they don't really bother about "First In First Out" anywhere in the distribution chain, nor the restaurant or shop, so it can happen that you get an old bottle. Who keeps beer around longer than a week? let alone a month or 3 It's some of those mum and paps chops. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 bottled chang I get a dud about one in ten, but cans seem ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 As always when I start sampling exotic foreign beers, I landed on Chang beer, because it had the highest alcohol content. I don't get a headache like other people, I just go sleep all afternoon so it is long off my list. I drink Archah now, or Leo when I have some cash. Chang is based on rice fermentation unlike any Western beer, leave it alone. By definition beer can't be rice based. It then wouldn't be beer! Beers are 70-85% Pale barley malt with adjuncts to make the different flavours. even wheat beer is only 25-30% wheat the rest is barley. Rice has been used as an adjunct by many brewers including in the West. Think Budweiser. It doesn't necessarily make a bad beer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post circusman Posted May 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2015 Chang Export seems fine with me. But then I would not dream of putting ice in it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No idea why anyone drinks that crap with a plethora of fine import beers available everywhere in LOS... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoiBiker Posted May 17, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2015 No idea why anyone drinks that crap with a plethora of fine import beers available everywhere in LOS... Because those 'fine import beers' are taxed into a whole new price bracket, and not everyone wants to give that much money to the government every time they have a few beers? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Topic is already there. In my opinion the new Chang tastes much nicer than the 6% one... it's more hoppy now. I don't think you can actually taste the small difference in alcohol, it's probably more about the new recipe. Still prefer Red Horse though. Also @47 Baht the cheapest beer in Thailand now since they have taken back the latest price rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saan Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) As always when I start sampling exotic foreign beers, I landed on Chang beer, because it had the highest alcohol content. I don't get a headache like other people, I just go sleep all afternoon so it is long off my list. I drink Archah now, or Leo when I have some cash. Chang is based on rice fermentation unlike any Western beer, leave it alone. By definition beer can't be rice based. It then wouldn't be beer! Beers are 70-85% Pale barley malt with adjuncts to make the different flavours. even wheat beer is only 25-30% wheat the rest is barley. Rice has been used as an adjunct by many brewers including in the West. Think Budweiser. It doesn't necessarily make a bad beer. Tsingtao, my favourite Asian beer is also made with a rice adjunct and one of the few beers I can drink with food. By the way, does anyone know if it is available in Chiang Mai? Edited May 17, 2015 by Saan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wump Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm pretty sure they would have it in Central Food Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogele123 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cheers over plenty of ice does the trick for me when I'm feeling cheap. Red Horse has a punch and is also for cheap when I'm feeling cheap and nasty, but is harder to find. Chang Export is for special occasions, like when I have some money. Never heard of that beer, do you know if it is available in Chiang Mai and what sort of alcohol strength it comes in at? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolsti Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I saw today that Heineken is reducing its standard bottle size from 330 ml to 325 ml and other Thai Brewers are doing the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogele123 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) As always when I start sampling exotic foreign beers, I landed on Chang beer, because it had the highest alcohol content. I don't get a headache like other people, I just go sleep all afternoon so it is long off my list. I drink Archah now, or Leo when I have some cash. Chang is based on rice fermentation unlike any Western beer, leave it alone. By definition beer can't be rice based. It then wouldn't be beer! Beers are 70-85% Pale barley malt with adjuncts to make the different flavours. even wheat beer is only 25-30% wheat the rest is barley. Rice has been used as an adjunct by many brewers including in the West. Think Budweiser. It doesn't necessarily make a bad beer. Tsingtao, my favourite Asian beer is also made with a rice adjunct and one of the few beers I can drink with food. By the way, does anyone know if it is available in Chiang Mai? Depends really on what you class as "Tsingtao" there are so many varieties. Usually the only ones I have seen are the really low alcohol stuff in the big green 640mL bottles, starts around 2.8% ABV and some go to 4.5%. However, if anyone knows where to get those little 330mL dark brown bottles that have about 5.6%, that would be appreciated. Then the best Tsingtao ever is the 330 mL Black bottles, the Tsingtao Stout, even nicer than a Guiness. (But never seen that available around here) So given that Chang looks like it is diluting itself, anyone have any good recommendations for a strong local brew these days that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? (I am not interested in Singha, Archa, Leo, or any of the other Chang varieties...is there anything else to wean myself away from this sadly weakening brew?) Hopefully find some alternative to Lao Kao, but the way things are going, who knows, maybe start brewing my own. Edited May 17, 2015 by Vogele123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunduhpostman Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 No idea why anyone drinks that crap with a plethora of fine import beers available everywhere in LOS... I wish that were true. The last of the decent import beers disappeared from all the shelves here in Kalasin about a year ago, even then it was only sporadically available and just a few beers Hoegaarden and Leffe. TESCO doesn't even have Singha beer just Chang, Archa and wall of one brand of Lao Khao. Of course you can order many many types of beer to be delivered via Wishbeer but you will pay for that if the govt hasn't stopped them from delivering outside of the selling hours as they said they were going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Remember when Chang first appeared in Thailand, wanted a few Carlsberg but shop was out so took the Chang. Paid no attention to alcohol content assuming 5%. Had a very bad next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango66 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 first Sigha started with cheating of BIg bottle- from 0,666 to 0,500 with almost same price, now Chang following also with cheating to reduce alcohol, more I beleave they just watering it , and not changed the receipt, so you have less ingredients which makes the beer tasty, Its ame as you mention to put a lot of ice, taste goes down; For thai people doesn't matter, of their chilly food, they dont have any taste, so what is brown water, and it have a lable - beer, for them its beer ! Good thanks we have still Leo !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdecas Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Cheers over plenty of ice does the trick for me when I'm feeling cheap. Red Horse has a punch and is also for cheap when I'm feeling cheap and nasty, but is harder to find. Chang Export is for special occasions, like when I have some money. Never heard of that beer, do you know if it is available in Chiang Mai and what sort of alcohol strength it comes in at? Cheers. Which one? Cheers is local, Red Horse is a foot-in-the-door San Miguel brewery newcomer. The latter packs a nice punch at 6.9%, is cheap at around 47 Baht but is hard to find. Cheers works with ice in a glass. Sorry but I've no idea of availability of either in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 first Sigha started with cheating of BIg bottle- from 0,666 to 0,500 with almost same price, now Chang following also with cheating to reduce alcohol, more I beleave they just watering it , and not changed the receipt, so you have less ingredients which makes the beer tasty, Its ame as you mention to put a lot of ice, taste goes down; For thai people doesn't matter, of their chilly food, they dont have any taste, so what is brown water, and it have a lable - beer, for them its beer ! Good thanks we have still Leo !! All to do with tax and economics. Local beer drinkers are the market. They want maximum bang for a buck. Gone are the days of dirt cheap drinking apart possibly from Lao Khao. Why do you think the average Moo Bahn Mom and Pop does not sell the likes of Heineken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 first Sigha started with cheating of BIg bottle- from 0,666 to 0,500 with almost same price, now Chang following also with cheating to reduce alcohol, more I beleave they just watering it , and not changed the receipt, so you have less ingredients which makes the beer tasty, Its ame as you mention to put a lot of ice, taste goes down; For thai people doesn't matter, of their chilly food, they dont have any taste, so what is brown water, and it have a lable - beer, for them its beer ! Good thanks we have still Leo !! You're complaining Chang has no flavour, but you drink Leo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Of course, leo is made by singha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Chang beer, now with even more hangover. I didn't notice it before but there is a huge difference in beer prices. A big bottle of Hoegarden was ฿379 and local beers were a quarter the price. Auke - You're Dutch, right? A linguist clue made me wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Chang Export for normal consumption Heineken for something special. Either way, it's only one glass for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalard Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I saw today that Heineken is reducing its standard bottle size from 330 ml to 325 ml and other Thai Brewers are doing the same.... And will they also reduce the price too..!!! I don't think so..!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I saw today that Heineken is reducing its standard bottle size from 330 ml to 325 ml and other Thai Brewers are doing the same.... And will they also reduce the price too..!!! I don't think so..!!! Why would they? New tax, keep the price the same requires a slightly smaller bottle. Stop blaming beer companies. If you are that concerned about it talk to government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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