pinkpanther99 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 How long will the flights to HH last. We had many airways in the past and none could make it work. I give it 6 months to a year at most for the Patts to HH route. There is not much demand for this run as first they are both beach resorts so who really wants to go to the same place they are already are; and second, they appeal to different types of travelers so again why would they want to visit both.When the promo prices are over, I suspect the regular prices will be around 2-3k return, verses under 1k for a city-center to city-center bus connection, and when adds in the costs of two RT airport transfers maybe up to 3500-4500 baht range. This is so true. I don't believe there is real demand for this route either. The two destinations really attract a different kind of visitor. It's the same problem with the proposed ferry between the two destinations - it's tried and failed once before but the govt seem to think there is big demand for travel between Hua Hin and Pattaya but personally I don't see it. Still nice to have the option though. There are widespread rumours that Hua Hin hotels association are really pushing for flights between HH and Hong Kong and Singapore. HH airport has recently extended the runway apparently to cater for larger air craft in the not too distant future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Time will tell. It would also expect that not all routes they have introduced will be profitable in the long run. I think the Khon Kaen and Udon Thani routes will be the most used due to the vast number of Isaan people working around Rayong, Mapthaput, Ban Chang and Sattahip, i know a lot of my co-workers are already using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Time will tell. It would also expect that not all routes they have introduced will be profitable in the long run. I think the Khon Kaen and Udon Thani routes will be the most used due to the vast number of Isaan people working around Rayong, Mapthaput, Ban Chang and Sattahip, i know a lot of my co-workers are already using them. I hope so, though I am not going to Pattaya for working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickets Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I would be a bit worried about safety If the taxi to the airport costs more than the flight ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Tuft Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I would be a bit worried about safety If the taxi to the airport costs more than the flight ticket. Don't move to Phuket then, not uncommon to get a promo fare up to Bangkok that costs less than the taxi to the airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 How long will the flights to HH last. We had many airways in the past and none could make it work.I give it 6 months to a year at most for the Patts to HH route. There is not much demand for this run as first they are both beach resorts so who really wants to go to the same place they are already are; and second, they appeal to different types of travelers so again why would they want to visit both.When the promo prices are over, I suspect the regular prices will be around 2-3k return, verses under 1k for a city-center to city-center bus connection, and when adds in the costs of two RT airport transfers maybe up to 3500-4500 baht range. I own properties in both places and spend time between the two knowing many that will use this route on a regular basis. If anything I would expect them to increase the frequency. Even at 1,690 it still beats the bus or tedious drive. Maybe Im lucky as I am in close proximity to both airports and will be able to get door-door in not much more than an hourAre you and Hess other "many" the same folks who kept the Pattaya-Hua Hin ferries in business all of a few months....twice! Kanair offer free shuttle buses to coinside with flight times...The existing routes are still offering promo fares if booked in advance so no reason to believe they wont continue for a length of time. Sorry but I just don't see the demand between Pattaya and Hua Hin...Chiang Mai Hua Hin I could see, Singapore or Hong Kong to Hua Hin may be viable too but not Patts to HH. You'll be back on The bus or your car within a year. The ferries tried it twice but couldn't make a go of it...don't see how an airline will do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Who wants to go to HH anyway? Even if they gave me 1000 bath, they could not drag me on that plane. My daughter sometimes flies Phuket- U-Tapao- Phuket, easy for me for picking her up and sending her back to her mom. 1 time per day and the route been there a while now. Edited May 20, 2015 by guzzi850m2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampdonkey Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 What happened to the Pattaya - Hua Hin fast boat service?Ask the Junta PM that was one off his many new changes to save the country that has not happened. Bulls##t has nothing to do with the PM The service has stopped about 3 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidJames Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The other Kan Air topic has been closed with a link that I don't have 'permission' to use. I've used them before & found the service excellent but on their website there are now no flights from Utapao or Udon Thani with Kan Air Awful shame & I hope this route get sorted out before long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Indeed all flights to/from U-Tapao vanished. Not selectable on the booking site anymore. Seems like it was a real false estimation. Edited June 15, 2015 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The other Kan Air topic has been closed with a link that I don't have 'permission' to use. I've used them before & found the service excellent but on their website there are now no flights from Utapao or Udon Thani with Kan Air Awful shame & I hope this route get sorted out before long I'm still waiting to get my money back from the flights I booked after they called me out of the blue one evening and said my outgoing and return flight had both been cancelled. Not even a courtesy email from the company to explain exactly why. they told me I would have to wait 45 days to get my money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontious Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 A great shame - with reports of 14 to 15 pax on a 66 seat ATR gas guzzler they must be losing a fortune. The schedule seems to change by the day. Ironic but better than when they left all the pretend routes on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelaway Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Wow, finished already. I flew from Hua Hin to U-Tapao earlier this month; a very good (albeit odd) experience: 25 minutes, take off to landing, a total of 3 passengers, and only 990 baht (including free shuttle bus to Jomtien), Too bad they've canceled the route, although I can definitely see why. The whole trip was short... and kind of surreal. Both Hua Hin & U-Tapao airports were eerily empty- like 2 or 3 staff and the same 3 passengers at both ends. A weird interlude; do the smaller airlines typically do much market research before starting a new route... or what?? Edited June 15, 2015 by Michaelaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 3 passengers! That undercuts the 15 passengers on my flight from Khon Kaen. Complete marketing desaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siam2007 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Wow, finished already. I flew from Hua Hin to U-Tapao earlier this month; a very good (albeit odd) experience: 25 minutes, take off to landing, a total of 3 passengers, and only 990 baht (including free shuttle bus to Jomtien), Too bad they've canceled the route, although I can definitely see why. The whole trip was short... and kind of surreal. Both Hua Hin & U-Tapao airports were eerily empty- like 2 or 3 staff and the same 3 passengers at both ends. A weird interlude; do the smaller airlines typically do much market research before starting a new route... or what?? they do so at most places on this planet, less so in South-East-Asia. I am curious to learn how the AirAsia flight to KL fares. it's supposed to be 3 times a week, if I am not mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelaway Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The other Kan Air topic has been closed with a link that I don't have 'permission' to use. I've used them before & found the service excellent but on their website there are now no flights from Utapao or Udon Thani with Kan Air Awful shame & I hope this route get sorted out before long I'm still waiting to get my money back from the flights I booked after they called me out of the blue one evening and said my outgoing and return flight had both been cancelled. Not even a courtesy email from the company to explain exactly why. they told me I would have to wait 45 days to get my money back Ok, who can you see in the Add Insult to Injury Department... geez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 The other Kan Air topic has been closed with a link that I don't have 'permission' to use. I've used them before & found the service excellent but on their website there are now no flights from Utapao or Udon Thani with Kan Air Awful shame & I hope this route get sorted out before long I'm still waiting to get my money back from the flights I booked after they called me out of the blue one evening and said my outgoing and return flight had both been cancelled. Not even a courtesy email from the company to explain exactly why. they told me I would have to wait 45 days to get my money back Ok, who can you see in the Add Insult to Injury Department... geez! Actually it's not that which has insulted me. It's the total lack of any formal communication as to why these flights were cancelled. On that night that the person with very poor English gave me this bad news I asked her why and all she could say was technical difficulty! Anyway I can't ever see myself using them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidJames Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They didn't seem to have a proper advertising strategy. I only found out about Kan Air from a post on this website. There's no point in having these fantastic deals if no one knows about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sorry to see looks like finished on many routes. I don't understand why not advertise a bit and definitely open up the business in high season. Seems to me it would be like much of the tourism season up and down but why start low season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They didn't seem to have a proper advertising strategy. I only found out about Kan Air from a post on this website. There's no point in having these fantastic deals if no one knows about them And here was me thinking they must have spent all their money on advertising signs around Ban Chang, Rayong, Satthahip, millions of them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sorry to see looks like finished on many routes. I don't understand why not advertise a bit and definitely open up the business in high season. Seems to me it would be like much of the tourism season up and down but why start low season? I don't understand why they didn't start out small with their Cessna grand Caravan. Yes it would have been a slower journey but I don't think some people would have cared for the convenience of going from pattaya. They use this plane on services in the north of Thailand. I think that has about 8 or 10 seats. I was gobsmacked when I heard they were using a 66 seat plane and that was three times a week to Chiang Mai. I would have been surprised if they could fill that plane up once a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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